the "terribly" thing has echoes in English I think, eg "She's terribly educated" vs "She was terribly educated"..?
― fetter, Friday, 29 December 2023 20:29 (four months ago) link
yes i think thats right
― close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:36 (four months ago) link
teddibly
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:54 (four months ago) link
“peak”
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 April 2024 20:05 (one week ago) link
i need you to explain that one
― budo jeru, Monday, 22 April 2024 22:41 (one week ago) link
Peak means bad in British slang (I had to look that up)
― Josefa, Monday, 22 April 2024 23:08 (one week ago) link
no wonder coppers knew the Peaky Blinders were bad guys
― ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:50 (one week ago) link
I was wondering the other day if there was any opposite slang (is there a grammatical term for this? bad = good etc) where a positive means a negative instead of the other way round.
"Peak", to become weak, thin, and sickly, first recorded 1500, origin uncertain. Usually used as an adjective these days, "you're looking a bit peaky". Wonder if thats where the slang came from or not.
― ledge, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 07:37 (one week ago) link
the grammatical term is pejoration
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:45 (one week ago) link
at least in the direction of positive > negative
i just learned a good example yesterday: "clambake" used to mean a hip shindig, and Tommy Dorsey even had a jazz combo called the "Clambake Seven" -- but by the '50s "clambake" came to mean a difficult or unproductive jam session, and the word "clam" persists today among musicians as a term for a wrong note or blunder
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:49 (one week ago) link
Never heard of it.
― Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:21 (one week ago) link
In any case, slang words that mean the opposite of their standard meaning, no shortage of those.
― Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:24 (one week ago) link
well with the slang word peak I think it actually evolved from meaning "intensely amazing" - like a peak experience - and then pivoted to meaning "intensely bad" - like in both cases it means "super intense" but just slipped from good to bad
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:33 (one week ago) link
― Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Tuesday, April 23, 2024 10:24 AM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
obviously. but it would be more fun if you listed your favorite examples
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:37 (one week ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw1ZhGBDICI
― Pierre Delecto, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:41 (one week ago) link
It seems very rare now but "stupid" used to mean amazing in the '90s, I guess it evolved from "stupid fresh"
― Josefa, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:01 (one week ago) link
> Tommy Dorsey even had a jazz combo called the "Clambake Seven"
i think you're missing a more obvious clambake, the elvis waterskiing film
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clambake_(film)
― koogs, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:57 (one week ago) link
(oh, i put it in url tags to avoid the famous ends-in-a-) bug and it did the exact same thing anyway)
Click-me-do
― koogs, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:58 (one week ago) link
"peak" in contemp UK slang is closer to bad luck or tough shit, I think: That's peak (for you). certainly the way my kids use it. makes me think of pique.
― fetter, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:32 (one week ago) link
So “peak” is the equivalent of how very old Americans say “Doesn’t that beat all!”
― Josefa, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:44 (one week ago) link
xpost yeah mine too. but i think it started out as something more intense like whoa fuck, worst moment ever
― Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:50 (one week ago) link
Cacaphemism is reverse euphemism m, like referring to your spouse as the ol' ball and chain or your car as a jalopy
― alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:56 (one week ago) link