words with contradictory meanings

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the "terribly" thing has echoes in English I think, eg "She's terribly educated" vs "She was terribly educated"..?

fetter, Friday, 29 December 2023 20:29 (four months ago) link

yes i think thats right

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:36 (four months ago) link

teddibly

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:54 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

“peak”

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Monday, 22 April 2024 20:05 (one week ago) link

i need you to explain that one

budo jeru, Monday, 22 April 2024 22:41 (one week ago) link

Peak means bad in British slang (I had to look that up)

Josefa, Monday, 22 April 2024 23:08 (one week ago) link

no wonder coppers knew the Peaky Blinders were bad guys

ain't nothin but a brie thing, baby (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 03:50 (one week ago) link

I was wondering the other day if there was any opposite slang (is there a grammatical term for this? bad = good etc) where a positive means a negative instead of the other way round.

"Peak", to become weak, thin, and sickly, first recorded 1500, origin uncertain. Usually used as an adjective these days, "you're looking a bit peaky". Wonder if thats where the slang came from or not.

ledge, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 07:37 (one week ago) link

the grammatical term is pejoration

budo jeru, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:45 (one week ago) link

at least in the direction of positive > negative

i just learned a good example yesterday: "clambake" used to mean a hip shindig, and Tommy Dorsey even had a jazz combo called the "Clambake Seven" -- but by the '50s "clambake" came to mean a difficult or unproductive jam session, and the word "clam" persists today among musicians as a term for a wrong note or blunder

budo jeru, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 14:49 (one week ago) link

Peak means bad in British slang (I had to look that up)

Never heard of it.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:21 (one week ago) link

In any case, slang words that mean the opposite of their standard meaning, no shortage of those.

Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:24 (one week ago) link

well with the slang word peak I think it actually evolved from meaning "intensely amazing" - like a peak experience - and then pivoted to meaning "intensely bad" - like in both cases it means "super intense" but just slipped from good to bad

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:33 (one week ago) link

In any case, slang words that mean the opposite of their standard meaning, no shortage of those.

― Not waving but droning (Tom D.), Tuesday, April 23, 2024 10:24 AM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

obviously. but it would be more fun if you listed your favorite examples

budo jeru, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:37 (one week ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Yw1ZhGBDICI

Pierre Delecto, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 15:41 (one week ago) link

It seems very rare now but "stupid" used to mean amazing in the '90s, I guess it evolved from "stupid fresh"

Josefa, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:01 (one week ago) link

> Tommy Dorsey even had a jazz combo called the "Clambake Seven"

i think you're missing a more obvious clambake, the elvis waterskiing film

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clambake_(film)

koogs, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:57 (one week ago) link

(oh, i put it in url tags to avoid the famous ends-in-a-) bug and it did the exact same thing anyway)

Click-me-do

koogs, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 16:58 (one week ago) link

"peak" in contemp UK slang is closer to bad luck or tough shit, I think: That's peak (for you). certainly the way my kids use it. makes me think of pique.

fetter, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:32 (one week ago) link

So “peak” is the equivalent of how very old Americans say “Doesn’t that beat all!”

Josefa, Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:44 (one week ago) link

xpost yeah mine too. but i think it started out as something more intense like whoa fuck, worst moment ever

Humanitarian Pause (Tracer Hand), Tuesday, 23 April 2024 18:50 (one week ago) link

Cacaphemism is reverse euphemism m, like referring to your spouse as the ol' ball and chain or your car as a jalopy

alpaca lips now (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 24 April 2024 22:56 (one week ago) link


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