Wire: The A-List Poll

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Looks about right.

kornrulez6969, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 01:58 (fourteen years ago) link

No argument with the results, but "Torch It" is really monumental. I've recently gone back to "Manscape" and the Wir album and while they're clearly not the best of Wire, they've still got great high points.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Ambitious is probably my personal favorite

if i have a child i will name it satan (latebloomer), Tuesday, 11 August 2009 21:49 (fourteen years ago) link

one year passes...

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Rich Lolwry (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 22 January 2011 03:34 (thirteen years ago) link

It feels like this period has been terribly underrated and dismissed due to the production values and technology of the time. But this is primo material!

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Saturday, 22 January 2011 04:30 (thirteen years ago) link

four years pass...

Lewis doesn't always agree with me but I am really feeling the bass on "Finest Drops" rn!

bentelec, Monday, 2 February 2015 00:09 (nine years ago) link

two years pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jFn_mGFs1Vg

Never gave 80s Wire a shot, but they have some pretty good tunes. And strange, low budget videos.

carpet_kaiser, Sunday, 16 July 2017 02:33 (six years ago) link

I also want those sunglasses Colin Newman is wearing

carpet_kaiser, Sunday, 16 July 2017 02:37 (six years ago) link

that mix of SSP is different from the one on A List.

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 July 2017 02:39 (six years ago) link

What tune?

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 July 2017 07:42 (six years ago) link

Pardon?

Mark G, Sunday, 16 July 2017 08:41 (six years ago) link

Silk Skin Paws

the Rain Man of nationalism. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 16 July 2017 13:06 (six years ago) link

"Kidney Bingos" shreds.

yesca, Sunday, 16 July 2017 13:07 (six years ago) link

Pardon?

I didn't notice much of a tune there, like a lot of 80s Wire: some guitar pedals, no hooks, a sliver of melody, more guitar pedals. They were great live though.

weird echo of the falsies (Tom D.), Sunday, 16 July 2017 15:22 (six years ago) link

I see.

Mark G, Sunday, 16 July 2017 19:40 (six years ago) link

Has anyone sampled the authorized bootlegs Wire sells on their site? Any standout gigs?

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 17 July 2017 01:23 (six years ago) link

Also, that Youtube video is the 7" version of "Silk Skin Paws", nicely different.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Monday, 17 July 2017 01:26 (six years ago) link

I did get the full "D&E" gig, I thought it was all fine. If Wire themselves thought it a disaster for reasons other than the audience reaction, then fine. If it was because of the boo-boys, they should have continued to give the audience what they don't want, like Dylan fought on...

And so on.

Mark G, Monday, 17 July 2017 06:32 (six years ago) link

four years pass...

I'd heard all the songs on this before, but not in this context. It's startling to hear all the "hits" in a row in the first half of this compilation, devoid of any conflict with the listener's enjoyment.
My bias is toward Colin Newman's vocals and melodies (his solo records from this era are my favourite Wire-related releases of all). With that in mind, my personal Wire A-List would omit:
- "Ambitious", "Torch It", "Feed Me" and maybe "Drill"
and include:
- "Free Falling Divisions", "Follow the Locust" and "A Public Place" from A Bell Is a Cup, "German Shepherds" from IBTABA, and "You Hung Your Lights in the Trees/A Craftsman's Touch" from Manscape. According to the recent book Read and Burn, the latter is Robert Gotobed's choice for greatest Wire song; it gets ignored because it is buried as the final track, 10 minutes long, on their least-loved album.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 16 August 2021 22:01 (two years ago) link

it's a masterpiece yes

imago, Monday, 16 August 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link

It's the perfect balance of the Colin Newman and Graham Lewis sides, it's sort of Wire's "A Day in the Life".

Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link

I mean, 23 Years Too Late, but yeah ;)

imago, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:52 (two years ago) link

"German Shepherds" from IBTABA

This is a hauntingly beautiful Wire song, but only this version! And yes, You Hung Your Lights in a Tree/A Craftsman's Touch is a fair candidate for best-ever Wire track, definitely a masterpiece.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link

Doesn't sound like Wire to me tbh. Some strange choices on this album. Where's "The Offer"?

"Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:02 (two years ago) link

The A List track listing was determined by their fan club (and some select band associates) voting on their favorite songs, IIRC

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

Ah, interesting! They never asked me though.

"Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:08 (two years ago) link

haha, we should have an ILX poll and create the B List

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link

I thought the least loved album was The First Letter.

Bo Burzum (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 17 August 2021 23:29 (two years ago) link

B List surely everything from Object 47 until now (let's leave Send/Read & Burn 1-3 out of it as they'd rather dominate, I fancy)

imago, Tuesday, 17 August 2021 23:41 (two years ago) link

Boring, Maryland: I haven't heard the Wir album yet, but the reviews I've read have basically said, "at least it's an improvement on Manscape".

imago: I'd rank the songs on Red Barked Tree above most of those on Send.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link

The B List exists!

https://www.discogs.com/Wire-Coatings/master/152053

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 06:40 (two years ago) link

"Manscape" is odd in that the lp version missed out a whole bunch of tracks from the cd version (including the 'title track'), and "You hang...." is three minutes shorter!

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 06:44 (two years ago) link

I can't remember much about "The First Letter" but I definitely remember it being better than "Manscape", it's still not great though. Graham Lewis is basically the lead vocalist, or there's not much Colin Newman on it at least, it sounds more like a He Saud album in some ways. Actually the best track on it has a lead vocal by Bruce Gilbert!

"Bobby Gillespie" (ft. Heroin) (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 07:40 (two years ago) link

imago: I'd rank the songs on Red Barked Tree above most of those on Send.

― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 01:06 (eight hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

okay, to me this is madness - Send is one of my all-time favourite albums by anyone

imago, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 09:36 (two years ago) link

In the list of albums I've played more than five times, "Change Becomes Us" is right in there...

Mark G, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 11:05 (two years ago) link

The First Letter is weird and doesn't have many tunes on it. I remember buying it and feeling very misled by the single (So and Slow It Goes) which is an outlier on the album. Manscape is definitely better in a lot of ways (and I never thought it was bad in the first place, but it was the first Wire album I owned).

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link

Right, the single is one of the best tracks, along with Bruce Gilbert's "Ticking Mouth" and "Footsi-Footsi" is really catchy, too.

The best thing from the Wir era is the "Vien" single, with the missing title track "The First Letter" and "Sexy And Rich (Janet)".

And there's a hidden gem which I missed for years - they do a remix of Erasure's "Fingers And Crumbs" which is 9 minutes of gloriousness.

Gerald McBoing-Boing, Wednesday, 18 August 2021 14:18 (two years ago) link

oh jeez I forgot about that, it's epic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7wC0hzmDjI

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 14:38 (two years ago) link

I love the tone Newman gets from his guitar.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 18 August 2021 14:55 (two years ago) link


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