RIP Rudy Giuliani

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The testimony from Shaye Moss was heartbreaking.

brownie, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 16:56 (four months ago) link

He repeated the baseless slanders towards Moss and Freeman outside the court in front of cameras.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:30 (four months ago) link

HOWELL is incredulous: How could Giuliani's lawyer say Freeman/Moss are "good people" who didn't deserve what happened to them when Rudy is outside the courthouse saying they are criminals. "I’m not sure how it’s reconcilable," Giuliani's lawyer Joe Sibley admits.

Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 17:36 (four months ago) link

I hope he dies broke, homeless and alone.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 18:05 (four months ago) link

SIBLEY BEGINS: "My client, as you saw last night, likes to talk a lot unfortunately."

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 12, 2023

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:12 (four months ago) link

had he shut his piehole and played the game, he could just be wandering around Times Square doing selfies with tourists and talking about the morning of September 11th for the rest of his life

he blew it

Andy the Grasshopper, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:25 (four months ago) link

"While drooling Johnny Walker Black."

stuffing your suit pockets with cold, stale chicken tende (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 12 December 2023 19:25 (four months ago) link

As career choices flash before his eyes...

SIBLEY: Why don’t you have enough money to repair your reputation?

MOSS: Because your client is still lying on me and ruining my reputation further ... How could you work in law if everyone is saying you’re a horrible lawyer?

SIBLEY: You’d be surprised actually.

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 12, 2023

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 20:06 (four months ago) link

"The testimony from Shaye Moss was heartbreaking."

it's such a compelling testimony, and it's so enraging to see such vulnerable people put in such physical danger by Giuliani and Trump's words. Another horrible villain is that Black Voices For Trump guy who was still doing an intimidation campaign against them on social media until I think he was locked up for it.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 21:32 (four months ago) link

So the joy here is that this is Rudy's OWN lawyer saying this as part of closing arguments.

MORE: Sibley repeatedly criticizing Giuliani, comparing him to flat-earthers who will never stop believing election lies, saying he committed an 'injustice' against Moss/Freeman, noting he's almost 80.

"Rudy Giuliani shouldn’t be defined by what’s happened in recent times."

— Kyle Cheney (@kyledcheney) December 14, 2023

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:14 (four months ago) link

"My client is a senile old idiot. Pity him?"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:15 (four months ago) link

Unfrozen caveman lawyer as defendant.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:22 (four months ago) link

Pity the child who has ambition
Knows what he wants to do
Knows that he'll never fit the system
Others expect him to

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:24 (four months ago) link

Lots of 80 year olds don't have a megaphone to ruin other people's lives.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:26 (four months ago) link

Even if the damages judgement is fairly modest - say $4 million - Rudy doesn't have any money. And nobody's gonna come bail him out by selling Rudy NFT's

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:28 (four months ago) link

What if they sold actual pieces of Rudy?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:29 (four months ago) link

take another little piece of his heart now baby

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:30 (four months ago) link

This is my body

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:31 (four months ago) link

his flesh is 90% bourbon

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:33 (four months ago) link

The part of his brain that craves attention seems to be the last part still functioning more or less normally.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:36 (four months ago) link

He's going to have to live off of the Borat 2 residuals I'm afraid.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 14 December 2023 18:45 (four months ago) link

all time own goal lol he shouldve been sitting on corporate boards, collecting speaking fees and so forth, even the more normal things he did like have a law firm, weird cyber security company were beneath his station

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:39 (four months ago) link

couldve been doing a pretend job at blackrock

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:41 (four months ago) link

I was thinking about his situation this morning (the local NPR affiliate was covering his case). As a New Yorker, he surely knows that Donald Trump is an utter piece of shit. I think he thought he could leverage proximity to Trump to his own advantage, to continue to get what he obviously needs, which is attention. What he failed to consider is that everyone who comes within the Trump orbit is eventually destroyed.

Of course, it's obvious that he is in mental and physical decline, probably a combination of age and alcohol.

I would feel sorry for him if he weren't such a self-serving asshole.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:42 (four months ago) link

honestly his post-mayoral arc is almost poetically tragic, culminating not in living a chill life in Manhattan but roaming the hinterlands of the U.S. trying to embarrassingly fight for an extraordinarily dumb and bad guy who probably secretly hates him

omar little, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:45 (four months ago) link

i say "almost" because he was obviously always a POS

omar little, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:45 (four months ago) link

its still tragic in the classic sense

lag∞n, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:46 (four months ago) link

xpost I watched a little bit of some video testimony last year or so, and honestly he did not seem to be in particular mental decline. I think he is just a huge asshole.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:47 (four months ago) link

Eh. He appeared in court the other day with his belt undone. More significantly, a lot of his public statements seem confused. He's certainly not as sharp as he was even ten years ago.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:52 (four months ago) link

He definitely *looks* terrible!

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:53 (four months ago) link

But he is indeed a huge asshole. Always has been. I remember when he announced his candidate for mayor. I was living in New York at the time, and one of my co-workers, who was deeply involved in and passionate about city politics, was outraged. He said Giuliani had nothing to offer the city, he was doing it for his own self-aggrandizement. He wasn't wrong.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:53 (four months ago) link

*candidacy

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:53 (four months ago) link

was it a....cardboard belt?

Formica Jordan (Neanderthal), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:54 (four months ago) link

I've seen it suggested that his antics yesterday was him making the mistake of thinking that he can get away with acting like Trump outside a courtroom, which of course nobody else in the US can. Also seen it suggested that it was possibly tactical, a rather pathetic attempt to play towards a mistrial.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:54 (four months ago) link

As for public statements, "confused" is generally the GOP default. That's what happens when most of the stuff you say is bullshit. Like, what would a lucid Trump even sound like? Confusing bluster is his defining trait.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:55 (four months ago) link

It's too late for that.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:55 (four months ago) link

(xp)

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:55 (four months ago) link

every day I open this hoping he has died

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:57 (four months ago) link

xp
I figured that would be the case, but you could be forgiven for thinking this guy has never actually practised law before!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 14 December 2023 19:59 (four months ago) link

The New York Police Department produced a detailed analysis in 1998 opposing plans by the city to locate its emergency command center at the World Trade Center, but the Giuliani administration overrode those objections. The command center later collapsed from damage in the Sept. 11 terrorist attack.

til the racist bald fuckwit aka "America's Mayor" managed to make the 9/11 emergency response more ineffectual and chaotic, by ignoring good advice.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 December 2023 09:47 (four months ago) link

the title of this thread is finally appropriate

https://x.com/kyledcheney/status/1735771145993953713

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:20 (four months ago) link

THE DECISION:

Defamation
Moss awarded: $16,998,000
Freeman awarded: $16,171,000

Emotional distress
Moss awarded: $20 million
Freeman awarded: $20 million

Punitive damages
Total: $75 million

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:20 (four months ago) link

wow!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:24 (four months ago) link

Here's how it hurts Joe Biden.

Very cut and dry case, well deserved.

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:28 (four months ago) link

das alotta cash bb

lag∞n, Friday, 15 December 2023 21:29 (four months ago) link

What is Rudy worth these days?

(•̪●) (carne asada), Friday, 15 December 2023 21:30 (four months ago) link

not seventy five million dollars

lag∞n, Friday, 15 December 2023 21:31 (four months ago) link

$75


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