Godflesh, God, Techno Animal, Jesu etc (S&D/CoD)

Really Cochrane's a bassist?

Or rather does Cochrane really play drums? I thought he was a bassist.

He's the bassist on Under The Skin, for example.

He was also the bassist in God (one of 'em). I didn't know who played what on this disc 'cause I don't have a real copy, just a promo; at one point I had heard that Broadrick was the drummer, though.

All I have's the promo so just bad assumptions from me (Alton was on bass last I saw Jesu).

According to discogs it's a Broadrick on drums and a drum machine, two bassists (Cochrane and Dalton), Broadrick (again) and Turner on guitars and vocals.

That's discogs though so anything could really be going back there.

Two bassists would explain how thick it sounds.

http://greymachine-disconnected.com/

Listening here. "Wasted" is seriously out of fucking control great (dig the awesome "Mentasm"-style stabs.)

This is really good, but it would be so much better with Broadrick on guitar. And even just two tracks with Kevin Martin would have made it a total classic for me. Still a really nice album, though. It really is a bit like listening to some lost Ice album.

At the turn of the New Year, I signed a deal with Ghostly International to develop a new project - Pale Sketcher. Pale Sketcher is intended as a vehicle for me to explore, exclusively and in more detail, the 'electronica' side of jesu.
It occurred to me during the writing of the last Jesu EP 'Opiate Sun' in early 2009, that Jesu, first and foremost, was intended to be a guitar oriented project. The 'electronica' side of Jesu was just an inevitable direction for me, but never satisfied with this battle between guitars and electronica with Jesu, I decided to separate the two directions - Jesu, now, and for the forseeable future, being guitar based exclusively, with Pale Sketcher being the project where I can focus and develop further, the Jesu 'electronica' sound, without need for further fusion or compromise.

Ghostly International saw sense in the concept for this project, when I touched upon this direction with my remix of School Of Seven Bells for Ghostly.

So, forthcoming on Ghostly Intl in July 2010, is, on both CD and digital (vinyl TBA) the entry release into the Pale Sketcher project - the entire out of print Jesu release 'Pale Sketches' demixed by Pale Sketcher! Two further remixes, one by King Midas Sound and one from Tower Of Light, will accompany the release, formats TBA.

An extract of 'Plans That Fade (Faded Dub)' from 'Pale Sketches Demixed' can be heard on the release page for the forthcoming Ghostly Intl compilation 'Ghostly By Night', to be released April 13th 2010. Please go here -

http://ghostly.com/releases/ghostly-by-night

More Pale Sketcher news soon.

Jesu full length LP 3 still in demo stage. Hoping for recording to begin in August 2010, this new LP will be released through Caldo Verde.

So wait why didn't he just use the Final name for this?

Oh darn:

http://earache.tumblr.com/post/664337445/godflesh-streetcleaner-deluxe-2cd-has-arrived

i would buy that. always felt like my original disc sounded kinda crappy. and i can't believe i'm saying this about a cd, but not loud enough! or maybe that was just my copy.

i would buy remastered version of first album too. i think that might actually exist already. i should just upgrade all my godflesh. even the stupid fye store across the street has some of the double-disc reissues.

Wow!

My internet is crap right now (going out every five seconds) - anyone know where I can find the tracklist for this?

i saw that techno animal and porter ricks thing in the record shop recently -- is it worth a shot?

I like it, but it's neither the best Techno Animal or Porter Ricks.

it's worth picking up if you like both.

That Streetcleaner reissue looks ace. I haven't picked up any of the previous Godflesh repressings -- haven't they all been 2xCD pairings of previously released stuff, sans unreleased material?

Yep. The Streetcleaner one has a marked improvement in sound overall and the demos are interesting and you've got good notes by my man Jon Selzer.

The Greymachine disc (Broadrick, Diarmuid Dalton, Dave Cochrane and Aaron Turner) is really, really good. Super heavy in the vein of Ice's Under the Skin.

Dug this out today and it's sounding very good still. I have it on cheap earbuds at the office -- hardly any bass coming through in the mix, which means it basically sounds like a black metal album. Interesting!

Whatever happened to the Pale Sketcher record?

I dunno, but Pale Sketcher is a horrific band name so...

Pale Sketcher record is okay. i'm going to need to spend more time with it.

also, uh, I FORGOT HOW MUCH 'POSSESSION' IS LIKE THE BEST ALBUM EVER.

I saw a used copy of Symbiotics on CD for $40 today. Is it getting this much? The far, far, far more legit record store just down the street is selling a VINYL copy of it for $20, and I got mine for $12 or whatever.

What say folks of The Sidewinder record?

No idea, but I was actually going to revive this thread today to say that Selfless sounded incredible this morning with the windows down, 85 degree swampy morning heat, on the drive to the office.

xp I remember it being a more snippety sounding Re-Entry-era Techno Animal record, but it's been a couple of years since I put it on.

So wait this Blood of Heroes CD has been out for almost a year according to Amazon???!

Yeah, it's been out since like May of last year, I think. I reviewed it (and the remix album, which is OK) on BurningAmbulance.com the other day.

Yeah that's where I saw it. This has to be one of the least publicized Broadrick things ever (although I guess this is a pretty obscure list of collaborators minus Laswell.)

It's interesting from you review it sounds like this is revisiting the second Ice album (whereas the Greymachine record was all about the first one.)

Okay this is pretty great. Kinda can't believe a record no one has heard has a remix record?!?!

New Pale Sketcher much better than the first Pale Sketcher.

http://www.factmag.com/2011/02/21/fact-mix-224-justin-broadrick/

Tracklist:
Donnacha Costello – ‘Always A Part’
Caustic Window – ‘A1′
Fairmont – ‘Walk Home’
Lootpack – ‘Questions’
Seefeel – ‘Spangle’
Dettinger – ‘A1′
Burial – ‘Archangel’
Slowdive – ‘Shine’
Dr Octagon – ‘Moosebumps’
Oval – ‘Do While X’
The Field – ‘Kappsta’
Various Artists – ’7′
Cabaret Voltaire – ‘Doublevision’
Pale Sketcher – Unreleased Dubplate 1
The Aggrovators – ‘Find A Dub’
Boards Of Canada – ‘Music Is Math’
Mark Kozelek – ‘Leo And Luna’
Pale Sketcher – Unreleased Dubplate 2
RZA – ‘Grits’
Babybird – ‘Saturday’
Cabaret Voltaire – ‘Jazz The Glass’ (
D Bridge – ‘The Question’

Forgot how great that dBridge lick is.

Love the Pale Sketcher album tbh.

Well the one I have, which is the Jesu Demixed thing.

http://jesu.bandcamp.com/album/jesu-picture-disc-mix-unreleased-original-vision

This is the master that was NOT used for what became the Picture Disc Mix, this was intended to be the master, but was shelved last minute; this master was intentionally sampled at a higher rate, so as to achieve a 'pop' sound / production, unlike the mix to be found on the 'actual' jesu Self Titled, a move which would be an absolute travesty for some! And a move that was decided against at the last minute, so the master was resampled back to the original pitch and sent to be pressed as the Picture Disc. So, this master is unreleased, and available here for the first time, the 'actual' Picture Disc master, is also available here at Bandcamp.

The Picture Disc of the Self Titled Jesu album, was remixed entirely for the LTD ED Picture Disc version (1000 copies), released in 2006. An Alternative mix with quite significant differences to the original album mix; the concept was to remix it more 'cleanly', due to the original mix containing a lot of distortion. There are still clicks, etc in this mix though due to the nature of the original recording. Here, the album is now remastered in 2012, since the original Picture Disc master was intentionally mastered flat.

The catalyst for this entire remix of the album was the pressing plant who were to cut and press the picture disc - with the original master of the S/T, they claimed the original was to max'ed out and distorted to be cut to an picture disc! I was, at the time, intrigued by the concept of a cleaner, and even 'poppier' mix of this album, anyway, so set about cleaning the the thing up. Hence the re-sampled higher speed version; attempting to go even further with this 'pop' concept.
For the record, my personal favourite mix of this album IS the original mix, which is known, universally, as the debut jesu album 'S/T', the mix that made it to CD/Vinyl, etc, etc.

Justin K Broadrick. May 2012.

i have the pic disk and its great but apparently this is the "pop" version that should have been on the pic disk. So i think its worth $7 if its as good as the pic disk version (the only pic disk i have that sounds awesome btw)

right about to start playing this

my godddd, 'demodex invasion' off 're-entry' bloody brings it, doesn't it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P--XCIsNtBc&feature=share

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x60HORf_vlw

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3HrRI-ATq7k

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RfAtvbApPsM

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iahO6AnCdSk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5dYkEXGFTMs

that's probably not in the correct order. Been hoping some live material by the band would appear for a while. Then Russ Smith posted a track to facebook I think.

& main reason I was looking on this thread was to look up lps by Godflesh since Earache are having a sale with 2cd versions of Streetcleaner and Songs of Love and Hate for £6.66 a pop. I don't really have any Godflesh and I knew Justin from gigs way way back in Head of David days etc.

or that might even be 2 different gigs and me be too tired to recognise it

oh fuck me this year's jesu record is gorgeous isn't it (based on opening track)

best since Conqueror

I *liked* Infinity, yknow

i liked them all but its still their best since Conqueror