the progressive girl

yeah, but maybe that isn't what advertising is about. don draper, it's toasted, etc

the fact that this thread has so much life really indicates, to me, that a lot of people out there find flo "annoying" if you catch my drift.

honestly I have no idea why but the "it's not gonna fit" commercials make me laugh a lot

xp i didn't mean to inadvertantly criticize transwomen, kate. i do feel like taibbi's "humor" is an example of a disgusting, misogynistic, bro-ey trope, one that tragically couples sexual attraction with contempt. i can't speak to the trans experience, but this is something i have seen cis men deploy against cis women and it is something i think is gross.

― treeship.

to be clear i'm not accusing you of being transphobic (by the way _always_ put a space between "trans" and "women", "transwomen" as one word is often used to imply that we're categorically different from "women", meaning "cis women").

threatening violence or sexual assault against a person, regardless of their gender, is wrong. i think that's what differentiates taibbi's "humor" from other threats of violence. i would put it in the same general category as frank zappa's "joke" about how all college educated women "need" to be sexually assaulted. gender _isn't_ irrelevant to those considerations. it reflects patriarchal standards, the implicit assumption that cis men as a class have dominion over the bodies of anybody who isn't a cis man. people have made threats of sexual violence against me phrased as "jokes" since my transition. nobody treated me like that before i transitioned. clearly there's a gendered aspect to this behavior.

it might seem like a meaningless distinction to say that these sorts of violent threats are reflective of _patriarchy_ rather than _misogyny_. it's a meaningful distinction to me. though it's _overwhelmingly commonly_ practiced by cis men against cis women, although it's done in accordance with and in furtherance of patriarchal ideology, the gender of the people involved isn't an inherent part of that behavior. whether or not one deems these threats "gross" or "disgusting", such behavior is wrong and ought not be be tolerated. from anybody.

the fact that this thread has so much life really indicates, to me, that a lot of people out there find flo "annoying" if you catch my drift.

― treeship., Monday, November 27, 2023 3:32 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

oh for sure, though she isn't as "annoying" as the AT&T girl who I think is insanely "annoying" though unfortunately she's gotten a lot of online abuse for how "annoying" she is so it feels wrong to point it out in the first place

xp good tip kate. i will place a space between trans and women from now on.

and frogbs -- i think it is horrifying that milana vayntrub is tormented because she is desired. this the exact dynamic i am talking about. it's rooted deeply in western culture, maybe other cultures too. but shakespeare has contempt for the dark lady and not the fair youth, you know.

Dean Winters is another one, aka Mayhem in the Allstate ads. That seems to be his primary gig now, though he was fairly memorable as a lawyer for the Tarasov mob in John Wick.

He's successfully continued to play his role on Oz in both narrative media and commercials.

he was good in Sarah Connor Chronicles

it might seem like a meaningless distinction to say that these sorts of violent threats are reflective of _patriarchy_ rather than _misogyny_. it's a meaningful distinction to me. though it's _overwhelmingly commonly_ practiced by cis men against cis women, although it's done in accordance with and in furtherance of patriarchal ideology, the gender of the people involved isn't an inherent part of that behavior. whether or not one deems these threats "gross" or "disgusting", such behavior is wrong and ought not be be tolerated. from anybody.

i feel like maybe if i gave a specific example it would help. i've been in situations where cis men threatened to "breed" the transmasc (no space here, btw, because the whole thing is an adjective) people (this is the noun) i was with. this was done under the guise of "flirting". characterizing that behavior as "misogynist", to me, that is kind of disrespectful to the genders of the people i was with. not intentionally! but disrespectful nonetheless.

ok, i understand.

i like flo, especially the one with her dismissive sister. she's cute, and also taught me about bumpits. and as the article that kicked off this revive mentioned, it's really difficult to make someone interested in, let alone loyal to, an insurance company

there was one at&t ad with milana v. and gal gadot and it was appalling how much better an actor the former is

Dean Winters is another one, aka Mayhem in the Allstate ads. That seems to be his primary gig now, though he was fairly memorable as a lawyer for the Tarasov mob in John Wick.

― omar little, Monday, November 27, 2023 3:18 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

never forget the Beeper King!!!

lol I was going to say, he will always be Dennis Duffy first and foremost to me no matter what he appears in

He was in Brooklyn Nine Nine too. He’s the same guy in everything.

he have a very straight dramatic role in Sarah Connor Chronicles. I kept waiting for him to bust into that mode but he never did.

then he got iced by a Terminator.

I always just call him "dummy", I can never remember his name.

"Technology is cyclical, Lemon"

how quickly we, and our upside-down friends, forget history

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AvHtKcS1POk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_06ReKtOx8w

oi!

I think the Geico ads are still pretty fresh, but whenever I see a Liberty I'm likely to recall Consumer Reports' conclusion, based on customer surveys re many many auto insurance companies, that the ones with the biggest ad campaigns are shit, and have to replace many many customers every year. Unfair to single out Liberty in this regard, but as my girl says, "You can't help what you think."

i have found that NJM is good at paying out claims. it isn't too expensive but maybe will go up next year because of said claims lol.

i would be their spokesperson if they asked.

i've had a few claims with Geico in my time, never had a problem with them

I work in insurance and yeah I think most companies are good with most claims, it's the weird edge cases where things can get a little wacky. That's why I think the Dean Winters Mayhem ads are very good, because we get a lot of strange claims and it's definitely true that just picking the cheapest option isn't going to cover everything.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qinHYwRhYug

We had NJM when we lived in NJ and they were very good, always sent us money back at the end of the year. Now that we're in Montana we have Allstate. So far they seem...fine.

We have Travelers for auto, they are very good and fast about paying claims. Rates are competitive also.

I have had Progressive long enough that I've almost hit their top loyalty tier. The only perk left to attain? They will not drop you no matter what. It's already incredibly hard to get dropped by them as they're a carrier of last resort, so I have no idea what this means.

You don't need car insurance while in prison so presumably it'd have to be some accident where you're not at fault but manage to destroy an entire building, or something

I looked it up online and someone who was a progressive employee posted this comment
Crown literally is just adding the renewal guarantee. Believe it or not, some crown progressive policyholder has a firetruck on their personal auto policy, which is a big no-no. Idk who was fool enough to add it in the first place, but we can't do shit about it bc they're crown.

So I guess if I insure something they decide isn't insurable in the future, they're stuck

hah yep that is one of the challenges of the insurance industry you have to design a system that's smart enough to kick out all the weird shit because if something slips through and you bind it there's not really a way out of it

fwiw I'm emerald tier so when I call in they connect me directly to Flo

There's one commercial where she shows up in the rain and it's paced like a romantic comedy.

It didn't make me switch insurance but I did think it was well-done.

(Somehow after years of Progressive I ended up getting Erie. I am not sure they even have ads.)

Due to my credit only my EMERALD status at Progressive is saving me from paying a fortune for my car insurance. Even then just barely.

Next status up allows me to vandalize people's cars thrice per year