VST freebies & cheapies, what do you like?

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New v3 of that was just released

Yes, I saw that. I'm always (and possibly needlessly) scared of installing plug-in updates, in case the update changes something so the plug-in doesn't perform exactly the same as it did on a project using the older version. I imagine that wouldn't be the case with most plug-ins but I'm reluctant to take the risk.

dubmill, Sunday, 26 November 2023 17:07 (five months ago) link

Yeah same. I literally didn't use compression on my first few records because I didn't understand it and my mixing decisions were hilariously naive. Now I have a lot more experience and have consumed countless tutorials, so I do in fact know how a compressor works. But I still prefer to work sort of quickly and intuitively, and if a few minutes of knob-turning isn't working then I'll try something else, or often just change the part.

I've never mixed someone else's record where changing the arrangement or instrumentation isn't an option, that would be an interesting challenge but way harder I'm sure.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Sunday, 26 November 2023 17:37 (five months ago) link

But I still prefer to work sort of quickly and intuitively, and if a few minutes of knob-turning isn't working then I'll try something else, or often just change the part.

Yes, same here. And in the past I would beat myself up over my inadequacy, but now I don't care. I just move on. Same way that in the past I would pride myself on being some kind of 'power user' of a program or piece of equipment (this is back in the 1990s on an Atari ST and Akai samplers and so on). Now, I've got a DAW that has hundreds of commands and options, and all sorts of ways of doing things that I don't know about or understand, but I don't care. I just want to get the job done and come out with something I'm pleased with, even though I know it could always be better. That's not to say that I don't still want to improve, but I'd rather improve in the course of doing something, finishing something, not just spend hours learning techniques for the sake of it.

dubmill, Sunday, 26 November 2023 18:25 (five months ago) link

For drums I would recommend the Waves SSL G Bus Compressor, it has a nice way of gluing things together and also works well with other instruments.

I have an Arturia 1176 plugin which I like for more dramatic drum mixing, the 'all buttons in' setting blows things up nicely and pulls a lot of the room sound in, which can work nicely running in parallel with a cleaner drum mix.

I don't know what the best 1176 style plug might be, UA maybe, there is a Waves CLA one, I'm very happy with this Arturia version.

MaresNest, Sunday, 26 November 2023 23:17 (five months ago) link

https://klanghelm.com/contents/products/TENSjr

Free version of their new spring reverb plugin based off the giant studio spring units, sounds really nice

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 05:39 (four months ago) link

I posted it in the other thread but I'm also enjoying this emulation of the Kawai K1

https://www.nilsschneider.de/wp/nils-k1v/

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 29 November 2023 05:41 (four months ago) link

Cool K1 plugin, love that. CD-Rom game and Cinemax channel vibes...

UA is running a $49.99 "guitar" bundle: https://www.uaudio.com/uad-plugins/plug-in-bundles/uad-guitar-fx-bundle.html

This is a hell of a good deal considering it includes the Lexicon 224. Also comes with Space Echo, Dimension D, LA3A, CE-1, a leslie.... I've only played a little bit with it so far. But that reverb, holy shit. Supposedly the code is ported from the hardware. These are native plugs, you don't need UAD hardware.

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Monday, 4 December 2023 06:42 (four months ago) link

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Thanks for the tip... UA stuff always sounds great, but usually super pricey....

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Monday, 4 December 2023 07:27 (four months ago) link

This is intriguing -

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5d70Vk3_o70

I'm not sure about the "physical modeling" thing. Is it using your recorded sound to trigger a sampled instrument and blending the two? It's cheap enough where I think I'll just give it a shot.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 7 December 2023 18:44 (four months ago) link

If it uses 'physical modelling', then I would say it's not using samples at all. I'm pretty interested in this too but I'd like to hear what people have to say about it before shelling out $29. I downloaded a couple of Sampleson physically modelled electric piano VSTs a while ago, though I see from my notes that I haven't used them yet. I must say I am attracted to the idea of this kind of thing. I absolutely refuse to use sample packs or multisampled 'virtual instruments'. I don't want the bloat on my computer in terms of the file sizes. Aside from a number of varieties of 909 (e.g. Samples from Mars packs, which are very good), I more or less stick to synths and whatever I choose to sample myself, as I always have.

dubmill, Friday, 8 December 2023 10:20 (four months ago) link

Saw this covered on the BPB site today and downloaded it immediately. Looking forward to using this.

https://wildergardenaudio.com/maim/

It degrades and alters the input sound using MP3 compression and other adjustments. The sound examples using drums don't seem that remarkable but there's a video on YouTube where it's processing a piano pattern and that sounds a lot more intriguing.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ALmvEnr0XPo

Some comments say the effects are reminiscent of Digitalis. I might have that already installed, not sure. It's true, I think, that a lot of these things kind of cross over with each other in terms of the results that can be achieved. I'm still using the 32-bit sampler Shortcircuit to load samples and even that has some nice sound processing options built into it.

dubmill, Saturday, 9 December 2023 12:24 (four months ago) link

And contrary to what I wrote yesterday, I also downloaded the free Boz Digital Labs Steinway 1926 piano Lite version, which has also just been written up on BPB. True, it's somewhat multisampled, but apparently only 50 MB in total, which is what I like to see. I like the sound of the demo audio files. I rarely use piano, but I can see that this will be useful.

dubmill, Saturday, 9 December 2023 12:35 (four months ago) link

two weeks pass...

I started messing around with Haptic Perc, it's an odd duck. There's no wet/dry control, so it's mostly adding tonal info to the attack of your source recording, which will always be audible. So it sounds kinda lame if you use a drumkit loop and try to make it sound like a hand drum, but works pretty well if you're tapping your fingers on the desk (also had some interesting results using brushes on a snare or sticks on a practice pad). The tuning slider also has zero labels, so you're purely going by ear (and it's a little hard to even get back to a previous setting).

Still pretty unique & cool though. I had a track with some hand drum samples that were too short/overly truncated and I was able to use it to generate a more natural sounding decay, it sounds nice blended with the original track.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 27 December 2023 16:23 (four months ago) link

Hmm. There seems to have been not much interest in it so far. On YouTube I'm still seeing only Sampleson's own promotional videos, which aren't that revealing of what it can do. I'd certainly try out a trial version, but they haven't provided one. I don't think I'm going to spend $29 on it without trying it.

But I'm now quite interested in Sampleson's Metapiano ($89). Sounds really nice, and as I mentioned before, I just refuse to use huge multisampled instruments. This is only 60 MB (and also claimed to be light on CPU). Only thing is, I don't really use piano much, if at all, but it's tempting all the same.

dubmill, Wednesday, 27 December 2023 17:38 (four months ago) link

three months pass...

Gonna have to get this I think

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=79EZpULr6J0

papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 30 March 2024 08:01 (four weeks ago) link

Heh I've always done this by individually pitch shifting or time stretching each hit (as audio, not midi). Looks fun though.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Saturday, 30 March 2024 13:54 (four weeks ago) link

I bought it but haven't used it yet.

beard papa, Saturday, 30 March 2024 20:48 (four weeks ago) link

that looks cool. Logic added "Beat Breaker" to a recent update, which can chop things up really quickly, but isn't as retro as this one. I haven't messed with BB too much but it is quick! I remember learning about chopping breaks in a 1995 (?) issue of Future Music. It was written before most samplers had graphic displays! so it was all, take the total number of samples for a loop, divide by 8/16, those are your chops. ha. Not sure today's producers (definitely including me!) would have that kind of patience!

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Tuesday, 9 April 2024 01:50 (two weeks ago) link


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