defend the indefensible: Hall and Oates

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Yeah, a TRO is usually issued in a domestic violence or other situation in which one of the parties presents a physical threat to the other. That didn't seem right in this case.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 25 November 2023 21:06 (five months ago) link

Daryl Hall filed a sharply worded sworn statement Wednesday explaining why he’s suing music partner John Oates over an alleged breach of their business partnership, and sadly he does not indulge us by incorporating his song titles into his filing.

birdistheword, Thursday, 30 November 2023 05:44 (four months ago) link

Also this is the first time I've heard Oates address the following:

(Oates) claimed Hall is the one who went rogue, alleging Hall “has consistently and publicly been adamant about being perceived as an individual rather than as part of a duo or group.” He also alleged Hall has “insisted” on the group being known as “Daryl Hall and John Oates,” rather than the more commonly known “Hall & Oates.”

birdistheword, Thursday, 30 November 2023 05:51 (four months ago) link

H (2o)

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 30 November 2023 13:06 (four months ago) link

“Never sell your publishing — maybe if you’re, you know, 80 years old and you decided to retire, then you can sell your publishing..."

So I'm not the only one whose definition of 'old' moves out 10 years for every decade I age.

enochroot, Thursday, 30 November 2023 13:17 (four months ago) link

trying to somehow make a "kissinger on my list" joke without forcing it, but alas, it must be forced.

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:03 (four months ago) link

I'm actually surprised there haven't been more legal quarrels like this amongst the members of legacy groups eager (or otherwise) to sell out.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:22 (four months ago) link

Voodoo chili, just want to let you know that your forced joke has been seen and appreciated.

It's on my list of the best things in life.

Iris Demented (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:45 (four months ago) link

xp Is it more common for one partner to simply sell out to the other partner? That seemed to be the case with the Band (everyone selling their share of the publishing to Robertson) and others (like Denny Laine selling his shares of his Wings co-writes to McCartney). Also, those particularly cases went on to prove Hall's point - never sell your publishing unless you're 80 and retiring.

birdistheword, Thursday, 30 November 2023 22:00 (four months ago) link

*particular

birdistheword, Thursday, 30 November 2023 22:00 (four months ago) link

As you've pointed out, Hall seems unlikely to value his partner's contribution as much as another business entity might.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 30 November 2023 22:15 (four months ago) link

One coincidental thing I noticed the other night was that Ritz crackers appear on the covers of both War Babies and Bigger Than Both of Us. It would be cool if there was a lost H&O Ritz jingle out there.

brimstead, Thursday, 7 December 2023 22:17 (four months ago) link

"Ritz On My List"

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Thursday, 7 December 2023 22:43 (four months ago) link

Lol

Whoah oh here she comes

She's a Ritz eater

; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 7 December 2023 22:48 (four months ago) link

Ritz Girl

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 7 December 2023 22:49 (four months ago) link

I Can't Go For Triscuits

maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 8 December 2023 00:45 (four months ago) link

“chicken in a biscuit” to “did it in a minute”

brimstead, Friday, 8 December 2023 00:49 (four months ago) link

I can't say the idea of a Broadway musical appeals to me. A brief excerpt:

Garrett and D’Arienzo also caught wind of the unusual dynamic between Hall and Oates. Both saw the group live a few times during their mutual projects and came away disenchanted. “They didn’t look at each other and never even talked to each other,” Garrett recalls. “I don’t think the audience noticed or cared. But I could not understand it.” Although he says Hall and Oates both showed up for a workshop reading of he and Taylor’s attempted musical, Garrett could also sense the tension between the two. “They would speak individually and not together,” he says, “and not confer with each other.”

D’Arienzo felt the same during his few interactions with them and at the concerts he attended. “I saw their show three times, and it was great,” he says. “They played amazing. But they didn’t seem like they were having fun onstage. It definitely felt like a business relationship.”

In another telling moment, D’Arienzo says he when he submitted his script, members of their team expressed enthusiasm — including half of the duo. “I remember getting a message from John Oates that was, ‘I love this so much, but I’m not going to say anything, because if I say I love it, Daryl will hate it.’”

birdistheword, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 21:34 (four months ago) link

Saw them last year and had the same takeaway. Very chilly vibes between the principals. Hall was also screaming at his monitor engineer the entire time. That said: sick show!

Davey D, Tuesday, 12 December 2023 21:47 (four months ago) link

This is more than just publishing, though, right? They perform as a duo still. Or were they already going to stop touring?

Reeves Gabrels' Funko Pop (majorairbro), Wednesday, 13 December 2023 06:34 (four months ago) link

Whoah oh here she comes

She's a Ritz eater

― ; Powell (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, December 7, 2023 10:48 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink

"You're out of Tuc"

Mark G, Wednesday, 13 December 2023 07:58 (four months ago) link


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