OK, is this the worst piece of music writing ever?

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This field is required (morrisp), Saturday, 25 November 2023 03:14 (five months ago) link

one month passes...

woof: https://www.spin.com/2023/12/album-of-the-year-killer-mike-michael/

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 03:13 (four months ago) link

Layers upon layers of stink in there.

BrianB, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 03:35 (four months ago) link

Michael is for Killer Mike's given name

whoa

mookieproof, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 03:59 (four months ago) link

oh my god what the fuck is that

ivy., Tuesday, 26 December 2023 04:01 (four months ago) link

what blathering dreck!

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 04:04 (four months ago) link

lmao that suuuucks

rob, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 04:16 (four months ago) link

That's sad.

jmm, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 04:18 (four months ago) link

tempted to start a poll for everyone's favourite line in this piece

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 04:20 (four months ago) link

1st reaction was OK dad, 2nd reaction was this is overwrought and underwritten at the same time how is this dude a publisher, then he dissed the pitchfork person and things got exciting for a minute but he denies us a decent rant and just gestures at the bootstraps party line of his class which is honestly a bit of a letdown, he clearly sees Mike as a fellow capitalist striver

he definitely writes like the kind of guy who inherited his dad's porn empire and published nude pics of teenagers to sell his own magazine while also sexually harassing his employees

Left, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 04:23 (four months ago) link

well, fuck, that didn't work out the way I wanted it to

Murgatroid, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 04:30 (four months ago) link

I think Omni Magazine was his passion project, not Spin. In it’s 80s-90s heyday Spin was essential reading

Expansion to Mackerel (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 04:34 (four months ago) link

I like getting a peek behind the curtain and seeing the failupwardsons that run everything now and how little they bring to the table in terms of ideas and how their one ideological move is always meritocracy which is refuted by their own existence

Left, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 04:47 (four months ago) link

Last September, the rapper Killer Mike was DJing hip-hop classics like Snoop Dogg’s Ain’t No Fun at a music festival afterparty in Louisville, Kentucky. “The inspiration for the night’s set is freedom of speech, so say what the fuck you want!” he told a crowd of hundreds. Killer Mike, half of the duo Run the Jewels, is known for speaking out against police brutality and racial injustice, as well as campaigning for Bernie Sanders.

But this night’s set was co-sponsored by Stand Together Music, an organization backed by the libertarian billionaire Charles Koch, who made his fortune in fossil fuels. Other sponsors of the party included the free-speech group Fire (which has received millions of dollars in contributions from the Charles G Koch charitable foundation), as well as the music outlet Spin, an official partner of Stand Together Music.

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/dec/07/koch-family-stand-together-music

Frozen CD, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 06:08 (four months ago) link

lmao that suuuucks

rob, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 06:10 (four months ago) link

I feel bad for the section editor, who presumably / hopefully cringed the whole way through that process, starting when Bob messaged one day and was like "This is the best rap record in decades, I'll write about it for album of the year!" ... and from that point there was no stopping it.

Maybe it didn't go that way, but you can picture it.

alpine static, Tuesday, 26 December 2023 17:53 (four months ago) link

Banging Left posts

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Tuesday, 26 December 2023 17:58 (four months ago) link

Enthusiasts of this style may appreciate Charles Lyons-Burt, who "covers the government contracting industry by day and culture by night." Certainly his eye-watering takes on contemporary hip-hop and rap albums capture the vibe and hustle of government contracting.
https://www.slantmagazine.com/author/clyonsburt/

assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 2 January 2024 00:40 (four months ago) link

one month passes...

I'm putting this Zachary Lipez essay about Pitchfork here because, while he makes some decent if obvious points, his prose style fills me with an unquenchable thirst for blood. I haaaaate this style of 21st century knowitall in-joke rockwritin', because it presumes an audience that gets all the references while bemoaning the fact that nobody reads this shit. I mean, maybe there's a connection between those two things?

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 22 February 2024 20:18 (two months ago) link

You mean stuff like this:

At the end of January, overnight, with only eight years of buildup, Pitchfork went from being “The Most Trusted Voice in Music” to being as trusted as a big butt and a smile; with a reduced staff of Jeremy Larson +1 sharing a basement cubicle with Graydon Carter’s wig, the desiccated mummy of the last Details coverboy, and a spec script for a Ghostbusters remake where Bill Murray plays all the characters and is in a May/December relationship with a Japanese girlfriend.

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 22 February 2024 20:26 (two months ago) link

^ i didn't understand a word of that fwiw

A street taco cart named Des'ree (Deflatormouse), Thursday, 22 February 2024 20:29 (two months ago) link

AI prompt: Try too hard to be clever. Humorous hip artsy movie voice narration.

Evan, Thursday, 22 February 2024 20:34 (two months ago) link

in-joke rockwritin', because it presumes an audience that gets all the references while bemoaning the fact that nobody reads this shit. I mean, maybe there's a connection between those two things?

completely agree with you here -- relying on references to communicate a point is (at least part of) why no one wants to read music writing. i don't necessarily think it's a 21st c thing but it's def a music writing thing. not a fan!!

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Thursday, 22 February 2024 20:47 (two months ago) link

Only so much can be gleaned from chatter picked up by hanging out at the Fishbone “Party at Ground Zero” Mall which stands across the street from P4K headquarters like a giant memorial food court. And there are limits to how much fruit a holiday text from one of Ryan Schreiber’s ex coke dealers might bear. But even an observer as disconnected as this writer received emails containing theories. These theories ranged from site-appropriate conspiracies of an inside job—with the role of the Mossad being played by ex-Fader types bearing grudges—to the possibility of Pitchfork being hurt by a refusal to give special preference to artists/publicists important to other Condé Nast publications. The occasional middling review of Eurovision pablum and diaristic nepo-babies may seem like no big deal to peasants like you or I, but managers and publicists act on their own peculiar morality. Ron Laffitte has been indie rock’s monied whipping boy for twenty-five long years and maybe a 6.2 for Gracie Abrams was the final straw. Theory mongering, in this case, bears the pellucidity of old Pavement lyrics.

As well the theories should. For most analysts’ purposes, a love for Demolition Plot J-7 was enough. You don’t bring tequila to an Irish wake.

maybe he's going for early p4k style?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Thursday, 22 February 2024 20:47 (two months ago) link

i hate that writing not just because it presupposes the reader gets the references but also because it seems like a cover for saying nothing new whatsoever, and just trying to say it with style and not even a good style.

omar little, Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:03 (two months ago) link

pretty funny that he positions himself as someone who might not otherwise be told theories about what's going on in the music writing world. feel like that is not really the case

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:05 (two months ago) link

I like it, but I've been accused of doing hipster Dennis Miller schtick on this very site, so ymmv

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:15 (two months ago) link

Also, it's a Substack

The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:16 (two months ago) link

Lester Bangs was a malign influence

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:18 (two months ago) link

lol people pay for this insight, then

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:19 (two months ago) link

Also, it's a Substack

No, no; our boy has moral objections to Substack. He publishes on Ghost.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:25 (two months ago) link

I was just gonna say - that stuff reads like Knock-Off Whiney to me. (Whiney's works, imo. ZL's doesn't.)

alpine static, Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:29 (two months ago) link

i like some of the music he digs up, but his tweets are at least half eye-rolls

alpine static, Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:30 (two months ago) link

that's like someone's blog. that doesn't count for me. you can write anything on your own space.

scott seward, Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:32 (two months ago) link

jeez louise no fair bringing whiney into this. he's a real riter.

i couldn't really read much of that thing above though. i think i'm just getting old.

i went looking for some old thing on google last night and i saw the very first rock review i ever wrote (for the VV) and it came out 25 years ago this month!! i felt like graydon carter's dessicated mummy or whatever. where does the time go.....

scott seward, Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:35 (two months ago) link

xpost i know, but Lipez is a real writer, too. i'm not just comparing Whiney to a guy with a blog ... although yes, he wrote this on his blog, or newsletter, or whatever it is.

alpine static, Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:51 (two months ago) link

Yeah, Lipez writes for zombie Creem. Which I haven't read, but I hope he's got someone reining him in a little bit more over there.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Thursday, 22 February 2024 21:58 (two months ago) link

The phrase "hipper-than-thou" was coined for this sort of prose voice...

gucci meme (theStalePrince), Thursday, 22 February 2024 22:40 (two months ago) link

And there are limits to how much fruit a holiday text from one of Ryan Schreiber’s ex coke dealers might bear.

srsly our whiney would never. this is very bad. the guy is bad with prepositions, doesn't know the requirements of metaphor, actually writes "pellucidity."

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Thursday, 22 February 2024 22:52 (two months ago) link

Men like deBoer tend to be glib about aspects of culture which are fascinating when taken seriously and they tend to be humorless about the absurd.

this is a good line

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 22 February 2024 22:56 (two months ago) link

I think I got two paragraphs in and then had to tap out.

(And, yes, I got the references! But this writing style is insufferable.)

Marten Broadcloak, mild-mannered GOP congressman (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 23 February 2024 00:23 (two months ago) link

<q>And there are limits to how much fruit a holiday text from one of Ryan Schreiber’s ex coke dealers might bear

srsly our whiney would never. this is very bad. the guy is bad with prepositions, doesn't know the requirements of metaphor, actually writes "pellucidity."<q/>

gucci meme (theStalePrince), Friday, 23 February 2024 00:30 (two months ago) link

argh!

was gonna say, dude also seems to think that coke grows on trees....

gucci meme (theStalePrince), Friday, 23 February 2024 00:31 (two months ago) link

he calls out coke snorting like a homophobe does gay sex

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 February 2024 00:34 (two months ago) link

he's good re deBoer

poppers fueled buttsex crescendo (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 23 February 2024 00:34 (two months ago) link

The 'Ex-Fader as Mossad' dig seems to be directed to Will Welch, the GQ EIC. That's all I got lol

fpsa, Friday, 23 February 2024 01:18 (two months ago) link

I understand the hate, but I enjoyed the piece, despite his reliance on coke jokes. It was a funny, ranty, know-it-all blog post and in that sense it Made me feel nostalgic lol

husked, tonal wails (irrational), Friday, 23 February 2024 15:02 (two months ago) link

I was just like “Dennis Miller has a music blog now?”

Cemetry Gaetz (DJP), Friday, 23 February 2024 15:14 (two months ago) link


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