baseball obituaries 2020

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Whoa

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:30 (five months ago) link

The Padres are super fucked, jeez

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:31 (five months ago) link

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Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:31 (five months ago) link

Willie Hernandez, 1984 CY and MVP winner.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 23 November 2023 07:03 (five months ago) link

Wow. One of the great then vs. now seasons when tracing historical attitudes towards closers and how they're used. His '84 vs. Felix Bautista's 2023:

WH - 140.1 IP, 1.92 ERA, 3.1 WAR, Cy Young + MVP
FB - 61 IP, 1.48 ERA, 3.0 WAR, 11th-place for the Cy (one 5th-place vote), 0 MVP votes

(Weirdly enough, similar W-L records: Hernandez 9-3, Bautista 8-2.)

clemenza, Thursday, 23 November 2023 14:09 (five months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Like one of those Academy Award tributes: 2023 in memoriam.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1JarNaBC2Y4

clemenza, Friday, 15 December 2023 18:03 (four months ago) link

Meant to say that there's a Seattle Pilot in there: Wayne Comer.

clemenza, Friday, 15 December 2023 20:38 (four months ago) link

four weeks pass...

How did we miss this?

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/39286514/bud-harrelson-scrappy-mets-ss-fought-pete-rose-dies-79

I didn't know about the Alzheimer's. Only won one GG, surprisingly--his defensive reputation was up there with almost anyone's through the '70s. (Usually lost out to Concepcion.) Got an MVP vote in '73 for playing 106 games and hitting .258--his career high till he hit .282/.272 his final two seasons. Immortal, of course, for this (Monday afternoon game, so I was probably sitting in Mr. Gudgeon's grade 8 class and missed it).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8xKLnO4hOs

Rose in 2008: "You had Seaver, who was the greatest pitcher I ever saw, and you had great hitters like Cleon Jones and Tommie Agee, and later Rusty and Milner. But the heart and soul of that team — ask anyone who played against them — was Bud Harrelson."

clemenza, Friday, 12 January 2024 17:29 (three months ago) link

(Note to Thermo: if there was ever a player who was going to have "scrappy" in his obit headline, Harrelson's the guy.)

clemenza, Friday, 12 January 2024 19:25 (three months ago) link

A member of the @Mets extended family has passed away. (Okay, REALLY extended family). Joyce Randolph, who played Trixie Norton on “The Honeymooners” was 99 years old. Her grandnephew Tim Redding pitched for the Mets 15 years ago. TV, if not necessarily Mets royalty. RIP. pic.twitter.com/PlbXqMy0ws

— Howie Rose (@HowieRose) January 14, 2024

mookieproof, Monday, 15 January 2024 04:09 (three months ago) link

Steve Staggs, 72. Not sure if Facebook links to a public group work here:

https://www.facebook.com/TorontoBlueJaysBaseballFans/posts/pfbid0yWgxshR6QWTC1C8d8DFFvAWci77arNW12vSUDmwtvgRHtmWnahK9RbAvRRL2tXa5l

I don't remember him at all, even though he was the Jays' leadoff hitter for half their first season. Looks a lot like Wade Boggs here:

https://i.postimg.cc/9fhb6xDH/staggs.jpg

clemenza, Wednesday, 24 January 2024 17:58 (three months ago) link

Jimy Williams (if he'd been a character in Goodfellas, he would have been Jimy One-M).

https://www.cbc.ca/sports/baseball/mlb/former-blue-jays-manager-jimy-williams-dead-at-80-1.7098047

1) Had the difficult task of taking over from Bobby Cox in 1986, after the Jays' first divisional title.

2) Manger when they collapsed in '87. After play on Sept. 26, the Jays were 96-59, the best record in baseball by 4-1/2 games. They proceeded to lose their final seven games, the last three by one run to the Tigers, the team that overtook them for the A.L. East title.

3) In the middle of probably the most memorable player-manager confrontation in team history:

https://mopupduty.com/a-memorable-blue-jays-opening-day-041117/

The Jays started the '89 season 12-24, Williams was fired and replaced by Cito Gaston, and it went from there.

clemenza, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 00:22 (two months ago) link

"Manger"--I do remember invoking Jesus's name a number of times those final seven games.

clemenza, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 01:04 (two months ago) link

I don’t know anything about him but you might enjoy this Red Sox Stats tweet about the time he benched Pedro

On August 14, 1999, Pedro was 16-3 with 199 strikeouts, a 2.46 ERA and 1.62 FIP.

He showed up late for a start, and Jimy sat his ass. pic.twitter.com/WJ7av91tU2

— Red Sox Stats (@redsoxstats) January 29, 2024

Roman Anthony gets on his horse (gyac), Tuesday, 30 January 2024 01:05 (two months ago) link

I'd completely forgotten he went on to manage other teams...Houston, too. Weird: he had a winning record in all three places (.535 for his career), and in every case, the team went on to their greatest success soon after he left (Jays and Red Sox win WS within three years, Houston goes to their first WS the very next year).

Maybe his biggest claim to fame, upon reconsideration, is managing Pedro in 1999 and 2000.

clemenza, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 01:11 (two months ago) link

His biggest claim to fame is probably this:

Williams returned to the Braves as Cox's third base coach from 1991-96, memorably giving Sid Bream the green light for the pennant-winning run on Francisco Cabrera's single

I had no idea he was coaching for the Braves, although it makes sense that he'd follow his former boss to Atlanta.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 09:23 (two months ago) link

Didn't know that either...eventful career.

clemenza, Tuesday, 30 January 2024 11:45 (two months ago) link

Who just died? I briefly saw one of those rotating online headlines about a pitcher who played for 10 seasons dying...can't find anything.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 February 2024 22:16 (two months ago) link

im not seeing anything

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 10 February 2024 23:07 (two months ago) link

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jim_Hannan

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Saturday, 10 February 2024 23:17 (two months ago) link

That'd be him, thanks. Never heard of him. Definite claim to fame: part of the massive Denny McLain trade in 1970.

clemenza, Saturday, 10 February 2024 23:20 (two months ago) link

Geez, missed this:

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/don-gullett-world-series-champion-with-reds-and-yankees-dies-at-73/

Easily the best pitcher on my first favourite team. From Posnanski's post today: best winning percentage for pitchers who won 100 games before turning 27 (44 of them in the 20th century).

1. Roger Clemens, 116-51, .695
2. Don Gullett, 109-60, .686
3. Dwight Gooden, 142-66, .683
4. Jim Palmer, 122-57, .682
5. Pedro Martinez, 107-50, .682

Retired after that--never pitched in another game.

clemenza, Monday, 19 February 2024 22:18 (two months ago) link

ed ott, 72

u l washington, 71

mookieproof, Monday, 4 March 2024 14:38 (one month ago) link

also tim wakefield’s widow stacy, 57

mookieproof, Monday, 4 March 2024 14:41 (one month ago) link

I remember Ed Ott, who then led me back to Duffy Dyer; Manny's backups.

clemenza, Monday, 4 March 2024 15:08 (one month ago) link

having grown up with ed ott (and steve nicosia!) i have to stop and think whenever the the crossword is asking for MEL

mookieproof, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 03:17 (one month ago) link

Ed Ott did Felix Millan dirty. RIP but you will pay for it in the afterlife.

buzza, Tuesday, 5 March 2024 07:10 (one month ago) link

missed this but former pirates/cardinals/white sox/etc pitcher jose deleon died a few weeks ago at 63

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 12:00 (one month ago) link

Such a strange pitcher, the disconnect between his peripheral stats and his W-L record--he got some attention for it at a time when few pitchers did. Both years he lost 19 (2-19 in '85!), he gave up fewer hits than IP. He walked too many, but he also struck out over 7 batters per 9 when, again, that wasn't common. For his career, a league-average ERA, a FIP of 3.61, and a W-L record 30 games under .500.

clemenza, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 13:08 (one month ago) link

kind of amazing that deleon still put up 1.8 fWAR while going 2-19

he was unlucky, but the '85 pirates were a deeply awful team (apart from rick reuschel). their leading home run hitter had 12!

mookieproof, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 20:13 (one month ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2PqXNWS4aRU

mookieproof, Thursday, 21 March 2024 16:48 (one month ago) link

Three or four famous Mets on there...Did we mention Bill Plummer on this thread? Remember him well as Bench's backup.

clemenza, Thursday, 21 March 2024 18:17 (one month ago) link

two weeks pass...

Pat Zachry, 1976's NL ROY (tied with Butch Metzger):

https://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/mlb/2024/04/06/pat-zachry-obituary/a4456638-f465-11ee-a4c9-88e569a98b58_story.html

Also beat Dock Ellis in G3 of that year's WS sweep of the Yankees.

clemenza, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:11 (two weeks ago) link

I missed the biggest part of his story: he was one of the four players sent to the Mets for Seaver in '77 (along with Doug Flynn, Steve Henderson, and Dan Norman).

clemenza, Sunday, 7 April 2024 15:15 (two weeks ago) link

catcher, most notably with the mets, jerry grote, 81

mookieproof, Monday, 8 April 2024 23:10 (two weeks ago) link

the notorious fritz peterson, 82

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 April 2024 18:39 (two weeks ago) link

Wow. Also a close friend of Bouton's (or at least was described that way in Ball Four). If you don't know about the notorious part, look him up!

clemenza, Saturday, 13 April 2024 19:11 (two weeks ago) link

"I always did my best work when I was scared stiff. In fact, if I'm not scared for a game I'll create some critical situations in my mind. Like, I'll pretend it's a World Series game and that it really counts big. I told Fritz Peterson about how I felt about being scared and one day before I was going to start a game he came over and whispered in my ear: 'If you want to see your baby again you'll win today.'"

-- Ball Four

clemenza, Sunday, 14 April 2024 00:51 (one week ago) link

despite peterson’s notoriety, i was not expecting to receive a new york times push notification about his death

mookieproof, Sunday, 14 April 2024 05:46 (one week ago) link

if we're going by ny baseball fan importance jerry grote (rip) way more notable than sex freakazoid peterson, his nice run with the non-competitive yankee clubs not withstanding

buzza, Sunday, 14 April 2024 08:44 (one week ago) link

When Kenny Holtzman was a rookie in 1966, his start against Sandy Koufax was a big event for many of us — two Jewish left-handers going head-to-head a day after observing Yom Kippur. Holtzman pitched eight no-hit innings and the Cubs beat the Dodgers 2-1 at Wrigley Field. RIP. https://t.co/ahs4DJbn5V pic.twitter.com/IwDT6LI1uK

— Mark Potash (@MarkPotash) April 15, 2024

j.q higgins, Monday, 15 April 2024 23:34 (one week ago) link

Just heard about this from a friend. Kind of overshadowed on the A's dynasty by Hunter, Blue, and Fingers.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:35 (one week ago) link

When I was growing up, they would always show those retrospective programs covering the World series and they always showed ones from the Athletics dynasty. Holtzman was one of the singular guys I remembered, and growing up he loomed larger in legend for me than almost anyone from those teams outside of Reggie. When you look at his statistics, it's kind of unbelievable he never received a single Cy Young vote.

omar little, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 01:47 (one week ago) link

https://i.postimg.cc/gJNYQhwk/kevin.jpg

Don't remember him at all.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 03:51 (one week ago) link

Holtzman won game 7 of the 73 series versus the Mets, hit a double and scored a run. I'll never not miss pitchers batting, yes I'm old. Also, very good Grid choice because of brief and mostly forgotten Orioles and Yankees years.

buzza, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 04:32 (one week ago) link

I didn't know that Holtzman played for the '77 and '78 Yankees, he won five WS rings! And yeah, it's surprising that he never got a CY vote with those pitching lines, but then again it's not surprising considering his competition on those WS winning teams.

NoTimeBeforeTime, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 05:15 (one week ago) link

Happy trails Whitey Herzog

My first thought was that he was one of the very last autocratic old-school managers, but he retired in 1990, so I guess there were a number of them still around.

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:15 (one week ago) link

ESPN: "A crew-cut, pot-bellied tobacco chewer who had no patience for the 'buddy-buddy' school of management..."

clemenza, Tuesday, 16 April 2024 16:19 (one week ago) link


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