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one of many things bad things about ea is theyre "first principles" cultists, like upon hearing the term effective altruism you might assume its a good thing people learning about the best way to give away their fortunes by say consulting experts on the topic, but no theyre just going to figure it out themselves using logic, the same logic that lead bankman to the conclude that shakespeare was bad because there were fewer people alive back then

lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2023 02:33 (six months ago) link

shakespeare was bad because there were fewer people alive back then

lol what

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 30 October 2023 02:35 (six months ago) link

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/F7xys_AbcAAmoWF?format=jpg&name=large

its funny how mad so many of these geniuses are about having been made to read a few books in school

lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2023 02:38 (six months ago) link

a silicon valley billionaire reading proust "this is inefficient!"

lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2023 02:43 (six months ago) link

on one hand I feel bad for the guy if he's all discombobulated by not having any medication in jail, but on the other hand the entire shtick of him having "brain fog" and being "unable to focus" is totally him thinking he only sounds very smart and has the Good Thoughts when he's cranked to the gills on speed

many people throughout history have had this issue, and a surprising number have been able to convince others that their ideas are very good by talking quickly and verbosely. or writing many pages about how great their thoughts are, like Ayn Rand

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:18 (six months ago) link

they should let him be cranked up on the stand in front of the jury imo

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:20 (six months ago) link

hell yeah lets do this

lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2023 14:22 (six months ago) link

the rate at which guys with altered brain chemistry whether via drugs or mental illness have been history makers is pretty high lol

lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2023 14:25 (six months ago) link

I see that this was covered in that david gerard link above, nm

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:40 (six months ago) link

people like to give attention to people who stand out. one of the main ways to succeed out there is to figure out what people think is normal and then do something just far enough out of their comfort zones to keep their interest

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 30 October 2023 14:41 (six months ago) link

@innercitypress

Cohen: How many hours a day were you working?
SBF: 22 a day, 23 maybe

his guys shd ask him abt panera lemonade consumption, it's a cast-iron defence imo

(cross has now started btw, the above is from before that)

mark s, Monday, 30 October 2023 15:47 (six months ago) link

live nytimes coverage here: https://www.nytimes.com/live/2023/10/30/business/sam-bankman-fried-ftx-trial

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:07 (six months ago) link

everything from the prosecutor is asking him if he remembered saying things that he obviously said and he's all "I don't remember but maybe I said that"

the defense is completely "I didn't know anything and if I said I did, I do not recall having said that"

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:10 (six months ago) link

the classic "I'm just a little guy!" defense but a little guy with memory problems

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:11 (six months ago) link

only works when youre being questioned by congress

lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:12 (six months ago) link

sbf good again

AUSA Sassoon: You called people on Crypto Twitter "Dumb motherf*ckers"?

mark s, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:20 (six months ago) link

its funny how mad so many of these geniuses are about having been made to read a few books in school

― lag∞n, Sunday, October 29, 2023 9:38 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

I can't find it now, but I'm pretty sure John Fahey made exactly this argument in one of his liner notes, except it was obviously tongue in cheek.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:21 (six months ago) link

"this argument" = statistics prove that there are better composers than Beethoven alive today, or something along those lines.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:22 (six months ago) link

sbf secret fahey freak

lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:24 (six months ago) link

“The stuff you said about wanting good regulations was just PR, wasn’t it?” Sassoon, the prosecutor, asked. Bankman-Fried said it wasn’t. Then the prosecution showed screenshots of Bankman-Fried telling a journalist exactly that.

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:25 (six months ago) link

One of the things that happens when illiterate "smart people" try to just figure everything out "from reason" is that they wind up coming up with trite and stupid conclusions that are not only unoriginal but have already been addressed by many people. That's part of why reading and learning is a good idea - other humans have come before you with similar thoughts.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Monday, 30 October 2023 16:28 (six months ago) link

yeah knowledge is better than logic

lag∞n, Monday, 30 October 2023 16:30 (six months ago) link

@innercitypress

AUSA Sassoon: Did you disclose to your customers that the risk engine had been exploited?
SBF: I can explain if you want.
AUSA: That's alright.

mark s, Monday, 30 October 2023 19:27 (six months ago) link

I mean, there's arguments about the worth of Shakespeare and the canon and their place in power systems, but this isn't that, this is the same regarding literature as the AI doomers are about intelligence, boiling it down to a number that you can plot going upwards.

one of many things bad things about ea is theyre "first principles" cultists, like upon hearing the term effective altruism you might assume its a good thing people learning about the best way to give away their fortunes by say consulting experts on the topic

Also it's a very "well that sounds nice, who could be against that?" gig, like calling yourself rationalists, you might as well start a party and call yourself the Right Party... oh yeah, that tracks.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 30 October 2023 20:51 (six months ago) link

Ms. Kudla: I am getting to that point. It will only take about 10 minutes.
Judge Kaplan: Some people don’t have 10 minutes left to live.
Ms. Kudla: Fair.

this was my fave moment, so far

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 30 October 2023 21:05 (six months ago) link

a-ha's "take coin me" (1985)

oatly carmichael (m bison), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 01:53 (six months ago) link

lol

lag∞n, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 01:54 (six months ago) link

hahaha

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 01:55 (six months ago) link

nice

, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 01:55 (six months ago) link

well done

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 02:00 (six months ago) link

That sketch makes him look way handsomer than he really is

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 12:38 (six months ago) link

lol ya think

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 13:48 (six months ago) link

pretty sure that's not a real court sketch but a delightful parody

the real court sketches are something, one of them truly looks like they're drawing a Twilight Zone character

ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 15:10 (six months ago) link

so despite having watched 3045709384 eps of law and order 4913984 times each i was faintly startled by the way defence is popping up at every hinge-point in this trial to say "we now move for an acquittal!" -- which the judge then denies. does this always happen in the US? in the hope that the judge by mistake says yes?

i mean i realise there *are* some acquittals at such stages, bcz the prosecution has fully fucked up its case or someone else has confessed or whatever -- but is it defence's job just to try it on anyway, just in case?

mark s, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 17:09 (six months ago) link

pretty sure that's not a real court sketch but a delightful parody

the real court sketches are something, one of them truly looks like they're drawing a Twilight Zone character

― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Tuesday, October 31, 2023 10:10 AM (two hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

I think there are multiple sketches - I'm not sure there's one official sketch artist so they may all be "real" sketches.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 17:16 (six months ago) link

xp

Pretty much. The defense attorney has to ask for it to preserve the issue for appeal, but it is rarely granted.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 17:18 (six months ago) link

lol why has dick wolf lied to me (by omission)?!?

mark s, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 17:30 (six months ago) link

jury ready to go home

SAM BANKMAN FRIED IS GUILTY ON ALL COUNTS!!! https://t.co/0CkDs6WzHg pic.twitter.com/c7XdrDV7co

— Coffeezilla (@coffeebreak_YT) November 2, 2023

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 November 2023 23:56 (six months ago) link

they started deliberating this afternoon

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 November 2023 23:57 (six months ago) link

now that's some effective altruism, amirite?

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 2 November 2023 23:58 (six months ago) link

ayye

lag∞n, Thursday, 2 November 2023 23:59 (six months ago) link

Probably the first real consequence he’s faced in his entire life

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 3 November 2023 00:03 (six months ago) link

really getting thrown in the deep end

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 00:04 (six months ago) link

lol, what a loser

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 3 November 2023 00:06 (six months ago) link

are they really gonna appeal this?

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 3 November 2023 00:06 (six months ago) link

I guess that's not very charitable, but something about this guy makes me hate him.

xp

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 3 November 2023 00:08 (six months ago) link

Must be all the fraud.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Friday, 3 November 2023 00:08 (six months ago) link

hes a bit of a sociopath

lag∞n, Friday, 3 November 2023 00:10 (six months ago) link


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