ILM Top 100 2000-2004: ALBUMS

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No. 4

Points: 1056
No. of votes: 50
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: DIZZEE RASCAL
Title: BOY IN DA CORNER
Label: XL
Year: 2003

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This was only the most written about record in the blogosphere/ILM boards ever and I\'m under no illusion that I\'ve got anything meaningful to add after all of that other than it's my number one choice because I was genuinely, metaphorically knocked over by Dizzee's sound in a way I hadn't been since I just started getting into music as a youngster. JoB

Recommended tracks: I Luv U, Stop Dat, Brand New Day, Hold Ya Mouf

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Dizzee sweeps the #4 spot!

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 27 August 2004 14:54 (nineteen years ago) link

no podium place for little Dylan :(

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:02 (nineteen years ago) link

You could do Gold, Silver, Bronze, and Tin

Michael F Gill (Michael F Gill), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:04 (nineteen years ago) link

Where the fuck is Is This It??? And Parachutes???

Mr. Snrub, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:11 (nineteen years ago) link

Hopefully burning on a gigantic pile of shit.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

not nominated, I think. Pretty sure I woulda voted for Is This It if it was there.

Maciej Kasperowicz (Maciej), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:14 (nineteen years ago) link

OK, I'm slightly upset that Kish Kash placed higher than Rooty.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:19 (nineteen years ago) link

_Kish Kash_ is a better album than _Rooty_. It's better sequenced and overall has better songs.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:20 (nineteen years ago) link

so untrue. so, so untrue.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:21 (nineteen years ago) link

No, very very true.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:22 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh come on they are within two spots of one another. Like it really matters (FWIW I like Kish Kash better as an album too.)

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

_Kish Kash_ is a better album than _Rooty_.

Perhaps, but Rooty meant / means way more to me.

frankE (frankE), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:25 (nineteen years ago) link

_Kish Kash_ is a better album than _Rooty_. It's better sequenced and overall has better songs.
-- VengaDan Perry (djperr...), August 27th, 2004.


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so untrue. so, so untrue.
-- The Good Dr. Bill (fadeout9...), August 27th, 2004.


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No, very very true.
-- Ned Raggett (ne...), August 27th, 2004.

Where else can you find this level of music debate on the web?

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:27 (nineteen years ago) link

Basement Jaxx=overrated! And I even heard an entire CD by them, not just five second samples. (I would like to give Kish Kash a try though.)

Rockist_Scientist (rockist_scientist), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

I haven't got Rooty, as I said, but from the tracks off it that I do know, it sounds lot less song-oriented and rock-textured than Kish Kash. Is that fair?

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

No. 3

Points: 1287
No. of votes: 56
No. of #1 votes: 3

Artist: THE STREETS
Title: ORIGINAL PIRATE MATERIAL
Label: Locked On
Year: 2002

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Original Pirate Material is as much England's first great hip-hop album as it is its last great music hall album. It's also the best 2-tone album since the Beat went bad, and Ian Dury via Rhythm Division. It's every cliché you've heard so far, and then a few more piled on top. The fact that it survives this blitz at all is testament to Mike Skinners' very real skillz: language, delivery, rhythm, inflection. If it seems slight now compared to its superior sequel, that's a bit like comparing an author's (for he is) collection of early short stories to the novel. The fourteen slices of life on OPM are still very rich places to revisit. And compared to the ultra-spare backings of the new album, the music has far more depth than I remember: the slurping, harumphing beats of "Sharp Darts," the weird ambient rustles at the beginning of "It's Too Late," the gnarled as old shoe leather orchestral loops in "Geezer's Need Excitement", the cheesy incidental garridge of "Who Got The Funk?", the "Fit But You Know It" prototype Madness/Jam chug of "Don't Mug Yourself", the Disco Inferno-ish feel of "Has It Come To This?". As for the words, if I started quoting, I'd be here all night, but special shout out to "we first me through a shared view/she loved me and I did too", a bit of amazingly subtle self-absorption that never really draws attention to itself even though it's the lynchpin on which "It's Too Late" (and maybe the album itself) spins on. Mike Skinner wasn't writing about the everyman. It's just fourteen versions of himself. He just happens to live like common people, doing whatever common people do. Jess

Recommended tracks: Turn The Page, Has It Come To This, It's Too Late, Weak Become Heroes

the neurotic awakening of s (blueski), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:31 (nineteen years ago) link

Where else can you find this level of music debate on the web?

The minimal is maximal.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

At this point there's no way that Basement Jaxx COULDN'T be seen as overrated, considering that they've been painted as dance messiahs.

(BTW "overall" is a copout that means "okay, of the songs on the two albums maybe my two favorites are on _Rooty_ but the next 6 are on _Kish Kash_".)

(xxpost NOW TALK ABOUT OVERRATED GAAAAAAH)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:32 (nineteen years ago) link

What a showdown for the last two though.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:33 (nineteen years ago) link

rockist scientist why are you playing such a curmudgeon caricature on this thread? ease up.

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Radiohead will beat Daft Punk, won't they? I just know they sodding will.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:34 (nineteen years ago) link

It's Kid A vs. Discovery, right?

Alex in SF (Alex in SF), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:35 (nineteen years ago) link

In the world series of love.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh jesus.

Well, I said that they had even odds, so it's a coin toss--the personification of the "ILM taste" vs. the personification of the critical hivemind. Will good triumph over evil? Does it matter which album is better? Can I say here that Kid A was my #1?

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

whatta nailbiter!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

... the slurping, harumphing beats of "Sharp Darts," ...
I think I've learned a new word today!

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

/me cover eyes, peers through fingers, unable to stop watching the slo-mo car crash

Jaunty Alan (Alan), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

kid a will win all the telltale warning signs are there

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

is it gonna be florida all over again?

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

i hope its that close

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

funny how both the "ilm taste" and "critical hivemind" picks are really good records

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

I will grant "Weak Become Heroes" and "Don't Mug Yourself" but otherwise there's a sparseness on _OPM_ that I find completely, totally, absolutely off-putting. Kick it in the nuts!

(xpost at this point I hope _Kid A_ wins because it is hands down a better album than _Discovery_, which is yet another example of ILM taking a decent album and elevating it to undeserved godhood)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

I think it might be in Stevem's best interests to put Radiohead at #2 no matter who actually won.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:39 (nineteen years ago) link

all great albums are decent albums elevated to undeserved godhood

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:40 (nineteen years ago) link

This is true but some albums are more undeserving than others.

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

some girls are bigger than others!

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:42 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid A is interesting in theory, tedious in actuality. Some people would no doubt say exactly the same about Discovery. Some people will say it about BOTH!

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I think both albums are totally worthy of #1.

The Good Dr. Bill (Andrew Unterberger), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

It's kind of understandable that Kid A would do well in this list, as it really works as an album in the age of the track (although I am now bitterly regretting placing it at all). As Jess said over on the other thread, though - I can't understand the love for Radiohead tracks. Whereas with Discovery, I (shame) never listen to the whole album at all. I just play the singles over and over.

Jamie T Smith (Jamie T Smith), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

i very very rarely listen to all of either album

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

i'm guessing if stankonia had been nominated it've taken this thing

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:45 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think it works as an album, though (Kid A this is) - so often when I tried to listen to it I got lulled by the ambient one and then thought ah, fuck it, I want something pretty every time the harsher stuff came back in.

I can understand people respecting it but liking it? Eh. LOVING it? Double eh.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

not sure i ever made it through kid a straight through

artiste (artiste), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

wait. why wasn't it or "is this it" nominated?? did they come out in 1999? if not, that seems so odd. i don't understand this poll.

amateur!!st, Friday, 27 August 2004 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

_Is This it_ wasn't nominated because _It Is Shit_.

(I SLAY ME)

VengaDan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:47 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't often make it to the end of Discovery either but that's cos I feel happy and delighted with the world by the end of Something About Us!

I do take Jamie's point though, I'm not an 'albums person' and maybe thats why I put Discovery as my #1.

Tom (Groke), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

i hate to say it but not enough brits voted

cinniblount (James Blount), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Kid A is interesting in theory, tedious in actuality. Some people would no doubt say exactly the same about Discovery. Some people will say it about BOTH!
I am some people.
Actually, "Discovery" isn't even interesting in theory, so never mind that.

Barry Bruner (Barry Bruner), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Look, at Glastonbury 2003 I had to fucking stand for about an hour watching those tedious twats, having the most fucking miserable time of my life waiting to discover that all my friends were thinking exactly the same thing and that we could go somewhere else and actually enjoy ourselves. We did and it was great. How can the best fucking album of the decade come from the same band that put us through that? Jesus Christ, I hate Radiohead.

Alba (Alba), Friday, 27 August 2004 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link


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