For a long time it seemed a lot of her stuff was available only as cheaply put-together German CDs that mixed studio and live material from lacklustre 80s performances in Europe. She felt genuinely underrated in those days.
― fetter, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 08:23 (six months ago) link
iirc this lead to her going to Charley Records with a gun because they weren't forking out royalties
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 09:37 (six months ago) link
It might be a completely uncontroversial opinion, but Nina Simone's cover of "Who Knows Where the Time Goes" is one of the greatest recordings ever.Then again, maybe that is controversial.
Then again, maybe that is controversial.
To add to this, this version of her cover of Suzanne is exquisite.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jgaIxOJzAZs
The arrangement is beautifully simple and the last verse has these incredible moments where her voice seems to harden in a subtle but unmistakable modulation to convey some sense of brittle resilience, a stern, bittersweet joy.
― droid, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 09:51 (six months ago) link
The first, self-titled Boston album is the equal of Pet Sounds in terms of arrangement, production, songwriting and emotional resonance.
― I must be the unluckiest man alive (Matt #2), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:19 (six months ago) link
I put on Nina Simone's cover of "Who Knows Where the Time Goes", then halfway through was just about to go downstairs to get something, when I remembered her haranguing the audience member at the Montreaux festival (as shown in the Netflix doc) so I respectfully sat back down till it had finished.
― behold the thump (ledge), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:40 (six months ago) link
oh boy I loved that "Suzanne" cover!
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:40 (six months ago) link
I think Bojack Horseman introduced a few people to her with this ending:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WWXsTOw_Tk
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:55 (six months ago) link
the whole concept of overrated/underrated feels really tired to me
feels like it's just a way to say "i don't like this but i have no significant thoughts about it" without saying that
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 13:56 (six months ago) link
underrated is fine imo, it works well to attract a certain type of listener to check someone out or give them a second listen
overrated becomes less useful as monoculture recedes further and further into the past, because...overrated by whom?
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:05 (six months ago) link
in the context of ilm, calling something "overrated" feels a little like one of those videos where someone throws a ping pong ball on some mouse traps.
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:08 (six months ago) link
It comes down to the quality of the conversation imo.
Like just listing overrated/underrated artists without real context comes across as "taste preening", but it can be interesting to examine the factors that caused some acts to become huge that might be tangential to the quality of the music as well as what causality might have held back another artist.
Problem is too often the conversation often never actually goes further than the initial statement
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:14 (six months ago) link
as monoculture recedes further and further into the past
citation please
― budo jeru, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:47 (six months ago) link
The waning popularity of pretty much all generalist media, from newspapers to tv stations to traditional radio?
I am not btw saying a non-monoculture world is better.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 15:10 (six months ago) link
it does feel like ppl's myopia is more apt to be about 'entertainment silos' rather than some kind of overarching Popular Culture
― xheugy eddy (D-40), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 15:12 (six months ago) link
Meanwhile I have decided that Stevie Nicks is underrated (despite being globally famous, widely adored, and probably rich).
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 16:33 (six months ago) link
listening to dave van ronk is like having my skin slowly peeled off my body. watching him sing is like having my body boiled in a cauldron of dave van ronk's fiery-hot sweat.
ewww, did i just say that out loud...
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 16:39 (six months ago) link
fiery hot sweat hot sauce now comes in a bottle and can be purchased at yr local guy fieri approved location
― i'd meet u where u are, but that place really sucks (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:40 (six months ago) link
Guy Fieri is apparently a real mensch
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:52 (six months ago) link
in the context of ilm, calling something "overrated" feels a little like one of those videos where someone throws a ping pong ball on some mouse traps.― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, October 24, 2023
― ꙮ (map), Tuesday, October 24, 2023
LOL. Underrated post.
― Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 18:21 (six months ago) link
it’s really important work, judging people for liking stuff too much
― brimstead, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 19:40 (six months ago) link
it is, quite literally, God's work.
― scott seward, Tuesday, 24 October 2023 20:49 (six months ago) link
Why'd you have to go and make things so overrated
https://i0.wp.com/tracklist.com.br/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/avril-lavigne-e1494207145154.png?fit=523%2C350&ssl=1
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 21:11 (six months ago) link
Plopped it on the turntable and confirmed my teen feelings: Highway 61 Revisited is really dragged down by those slow ones. Kinda surprised they're still a slog for me, but they are.
― bendy, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 16:47 (five months ago) link
morton feldman is boring as fuck
― Left, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:09 (five months ago) link
so is dylan but at least his songs and albums are over quicker
― Left, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:14 (five months ago) link
Which are the slow ones? I think it generally moves along fairly snappish.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:52 (five months ago) link
I guess Ballad of a Thin Man is slowest.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 20:55 (five months ago) link
I count "Ballad of a Thin Man" as 1) typically (of '65/66) brilliant; 2) historically important; 3) my least favourite song on Highway 61. Just don't like the way it sounds, and can't remember a time when I ever did.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:00 (five months ago) link
(Brilliant conceptually...as an idea, as a comment on the moment, as a set of lyrics; as a piece of music, no.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:02 (five months ago) link
Yeah it’s always been a song I felt like I was supposed to like more than I did. Probably my least favorite on the album too. The plodding pace doesn’t help.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:02 (five months ago) link
I started out on Burgundy, but soon hit the harder stuffEverybody said they're right behind me when the game got roughBut the joke was on me, there was nobody even to call my bluffI'm going back to New York City, I do believe I've had enough
Contender for Dylan's best ever verse in one of the slow ones, imo
― glumdalclitch, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:06 (five months ago) link
that whole song is nigh perfect, the vocal is the most seductive he's ever done.
― assert (matttkkkk), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:12 (five months ago) link
Oh yeah that one is an all-time classic.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:12 (five months ago) link
Highway 61 Revisited is his most perfect album - not my favorite, but his most perfect.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:17 (five months ago) link
Prefer Morton Feldman.
― The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:34 (five months ago) link
i mean i prefer bob, but highway 61 is a few incredible songs and a bunch of rambling crap so fuck this argument.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:43 (five months ago) link
Someone should do a doom metal cover of Ballad of a Thin Man.
If you like Just Like Thumbs Blues, don’t sleep on If You Ever Go To Houston. It sounds like a belated sequel.
― o. nate, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 21:54 (five months ago) link
*Tom* Thumb’s Blues
it is totally proto-doom
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 22:11 (five months ago) link
Rolling Stone, Tombstone, Buick and Highway 62 always work for me, the rest I get impatient with. Maybe I conditioned my young self to be impatient with the rest. Don’t think I’d given the album a full listen through since 1985. At the time I got it, say 1983, I was knee deep in The Who and Kinks and Cream what frustrated me was the lack of riffs— it felt like it was all lyrics. I actually picked it up because I’d gotten into Johnny Winter’s cover of Highway 61. The original seemed much less rocking. But at least the motoring ones did motor along. The other made me antsy. This doesn’t happen with “lesser” Dylan albums I’ve subsequently heard, chock full of methodical ballads, but I didn’t really try any Dylan again until I was out of my teens.
― bendy, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 22:21 (five months ago) link
Morton Feldman’s piano works, especially “For Bunita Marcos,” are sublime.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 November 2023 02:33 (five months ago) link
"Tom Thumb's Blues" = A+++.
― clemenza, Wednesday, 15 November 2023 03:30 (five months ago) link
another in my line of "yeah if that got memory hole'd i'd be a happier person"-zappa
i'm sure we've covered this before, but anytime the topic gets revived, how terrible that music is just hits me all over again. i wasted so much time with that music. ugh.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Monday, 20 November 2023 18:16 (five months ago) link
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― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, November 14, 2023 4:11 PM (six days ago) bookmarkflaglink
Nazareth's "Ballad of Hollis Brown" cover is totally proto doom! one of the greatest covers ever, esp halfway when it gets totally unhinged
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2dw-MvBnlFg
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Monday, 20 November 2023 18:19 (five months ago) link
lol
― budo jeru, Monday, 20 November 2023 20:18 (five months ago) link
My buddy Jan just proclaimed: “no good music was released in 1987. Except the second David Behrman album.”
― meaner stinks meat bake it cone (flamboyant goon tie included), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 23:14 (five months ago) link
wow.
― butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 23:16 (five months ago) link
Tell your friend to listen to PERFECT PRESCRIPTION, DARKLANDS and ECSTASY (& WINE) loudly in the dark until he changes his mind.
― citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 21 November 2023 23:21 (five months ago) link
um hysteria helloooo
― brimstead, Tuesday, 21 November 2023 23:54 (five months ago) link
Jan, regarding Darklands and that Spacemen 3 album “ah… yes, is so, is so”
― meaner stinks meat bake it cone (flamboyant goon tie included), Wednesday, 22 November 2023 00:39 (five months ago) link