I’m assuming she don’t just flip, she did like a triple back flip
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:53 (six months ago) link
Didn’t, not don’t
so crazy that you can get probation for trying to overthrow the government. america, what a country!
― scott seward, Thursday, October 19, 2023 10:50 AM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
its a victimless crime
― lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:00 (six months ago) link
pretty sure Fani Willis would not recommend such a sentence unless she got the goods from Powell
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:04 (six months ago) link
Powell could also be disbarred as a result of the plea.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:09 (six months ago) link
I certainly hope so!
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:15 (six months ago) link
I'd presume there might be a domino effect of other rather shook indicted retrobates turning witness now. I heard in RICO cases the ones that get in early get the best deals (free pizzas!), and once this starts there is no stopping it.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, October 19, 2023 9:29 AM (fifty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
right I thought this is why you charge as many people as you can with RICO, if you get a few plea deals it makes it a lot easier to charge the primary conspirators
― frogbs, Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:21 (six months ago) link
yeah I think the idea is to get the more minor players to flip upwards against the big dogs of the conspiracy and it seems to be working
so now Powell is obligated to also cooperate with Jack Smith in the classified documents case if he wants to use her.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:46 (six months ago) link
Yes to all the above, though it's less the classified docs case -- I don't think she had anything to do with that? -- and more the J6 case in DC.
Per the NYT:
She was also fined $6,000 and agreed to pay $2,700 restitution to the state of Georgia, as well as write an apology letter to its citizens.Prosecutors said in court that Ms. Powell had given them a recorded statement on Wednesday as part of her plea deal. She has agreed to testify against any of the 17 remaining defendants. Ms. Powell has also agreed to turn over documents in her possession related to the case.
Prosecutors said in court that Ms. Powell had given them a recorded statement on Wednesday as part of her plea deal. She has agreed to testify against any of the 17 remaining defendants. Ms. Powell has also agreed to turn over documents in her possession related to the case.
So yeah, Willis would not have agreed to anything in court without that statement already in hand, that's for sure.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:50 (six months ago) link
oh yes the J6 case, such a dizzying array of cases I'm still getting them crossed occasionally!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:55 (six months ago) link
as well as write an apology letter to its citizens
ha, that's like something you would have a fourth-grader do after the start a small grass fire
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 19 October 2023 16:35 (six months ago) link
She's gonna leave the courtroom and say "Trump wo-" before getting flattened by a guy pushing a catering cart in the hallway
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Thursday, 19 October 2023 17:21 (six months ago) link
Biggest problem with making a plea deal in exchange for her testimony is that she's done so much flagrant lying in front of so many cameras that attacking her credibility will be child's play.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 20 October 2023 02:38 (six months ago) link
Yeah, the apology letter thing is bizarre...
― m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Friday, 20 October 2023 02:51 (six months ago) link
She should have to hand deliver it to every Georgia voter.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Friday, 20 October 2023 04:01 (six months ago) link
xxp
isn't it more important how it plays to the jury? after all Trump elevated this conspiracy theory minded Qanon extremist into a prominent position in his legal team, so doesn't it sort of enhance the narrative of crackerjack cranks attempting to illegally reverse election results? I don't know tbh. She was present and actively involved in pivotal moments of the conspiracy and oddly I think she could end up being quite a credible witness. Fani Willis seems formidable.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 04:46 (six months ago) link
they should make all of those idiots stand outside Georgia malls wearing sandwich board signs that read *I tried to take over the country and deny you your rights as citizens also check out the great deals at Forever 21*. 12 hours a day every day for 12 years.
― scott seward, Friday, 20 October 2023 04:52 (six months ago) link
humiliating tho
― Yngwie Azalea (stevie), Friday, 20 October 2023 08:56 (six months ago) link
Does this have to be written in the form of an actual letter, like starting with "Dearest Georgians" and ending with "warmest regards" or "yours in service"?
― henry s, Friday, 20 October 2023 11:57 (six months ago) link
Scott OTM
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 20 October 2023 12:01 (six months ago) link
Dearest Georgians,
I apologize that you could not see the things that I saw. I assumed that when I shared the completely obvious evidence of malfeasance with you, that you would react in kind and take back your country. In retrospect, I probably should have expected less from you. After all, you voted for Joe Biden. Or so they tell you.
Valete Krakene,
Sidney
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 12:18 (six months ago) link
which will be covered in red ink with a huge "SEE ME!" at the top upon submission for approval
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 12:19 (six months ago) link
P.S.:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5uqPUZxZHg
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 20 October 2023 12:28 (six months ago) link
Powell should get the Larry Kleist treatment:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKE9W0O8bX8
(Ironic, because one of the players in this sketch is currently on trial for storming the capitol on January 6)
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 October 2023 13:34 (six months ago) link
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/judge-threats-imprison-trump-biolat-rcna121403
The judge presiding over Donald Trump’s $250 million civil fraud trial in New York raised the possibility on Friday of putting the former president in prison after Trump failed to comply with a partial gag order requiring him to remove a post trashing the judge's law clerk on social media.Judge Arthur Engoron said in court on Friday morning that Trump had posted on his social media account "an untrue and disparaging post about my clerk" and that he spoke to the former president about the matter."I ordered him to remove the post immediately and he said he did take it down," Engoron said.
Judge Arthur Engoron said in court on Friday morning that Trump had posted on his social media account "an untrue and disparaging post about my clerk" and that he spoke to the former president about the matter.
"I ordered him to remove the post immediately and he said he did take it down," Engoron said.
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:56 (six months ago) link
god imagine the day he goes to prison and right-wing pizza companies offer special Trump pies to help raise money to donate for his bail
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:59 (six months ago) link
I'm visualizing no bail terms, personally
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:59 (six months ago) link
"i'm in jail"
"we know"
"bail me out"
"there's no bail"
"huh?"
"right but you can pay for me to leave jail right now"
"no that's bail"
"so do that"
"what are you talking about they do it on tv all the time"
"yes and I also enjoyed that episode of Law and Order but you don't get bail"
"I totally understand bail"
"no, you aren't offered bail"
"I don't care, I'm taking it anyway"
"that's not how it works"
"Get me out now"
"We've been through this"
"I pay your salary, find a way"
"actually you haven't paid si--"
"you're fired"
"ok. you're still in jail. good day."
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:06 (six months ago) link
Trump probably wouldn't want to leave prison--surrounded by adoring Nazis
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:08 (six months ago) link
as well as write an apology letter to its citizensha, that's like something you would have a fourth-grader do after the start a small grass fire
restorative justice in action
― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:10 (six months ago) link
It's predictable that he was going push it with the gag order, but attacking the judge's staff again is really pushing it. I suspect he might want do some performative prison time, it will be a great boost for his fundraising.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:11 (six months ago) link
ugh even that will ruin the celebration
"HA HA, YOUR CANDIDATE'S IN JAIL"
"jokes on you, he's playing 7D chess, what a headfake that you fell for"
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:13 (six months ago) link
Gettin' prison tats, makin' raisin wine. Asking Melania to put some money in his commissary account, lifting weights in the yard.
A comforting fantasy, and comforting fantasies are about all I have going for me right now
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:13 (six months ago) link
if he lifted weights he'd probably go into cardiac arrest
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:14 (six months ago) link
given his views on exercise at least
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:15 (six months ago) link
I suspect he might want do some performative prison time, it will be a great boost for his fundraising.
only if he can get it reduced to a couple weeks of just hanging around Mar-a-Lago. the man's never lived a day in discomfort in his life I'm sure he doesn't actually want to go to jail
― frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:21 (six months ago) link
I suspect he might want do some performative prison time, it will be a great boost for his fundraising
Biden is way outraising Trump lately, based on what I've read
― Dwigt Rortugal (Eric H.), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:36 (six months ago) link
Going to jail for a post is the definition of a real poster
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:38 (six months ago) link
sentenced to 51 years
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:39 (six months ago) link
(I wish)
― xyzzzz__, Friday, October 20, 2023 11:38 AM (ten minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
salute
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:49 (six months ago) link
Or 140 years
― immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:50 (six months ago) link
would Trump be the first person to go to jail for posting?
― frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:52 (six months ago) link
No, that was Bean Dad
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 20 October 2023 15:53 (six months ago) link
― frogbs, Friday, October 20, 2023 11:52 AM (four minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
naw lots of people have for making threats
― lag∞n, Friday, 20 October 2023 15:57 (six months ago) link
fraud, etc
frogs you even posted a thread about one in your early days!
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:12 (six months ago) link
oh just noticed he hadn't done it again, it was the failure to delete the og post and it was still up on his campaign site for several weeks after the gag order.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:14 (six months ago) link
Right I mean there are crimes via posting but this is just standard Trumpposting which anyone could do. Not a huge distinction I admit
― frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 16:24 (six months ago) link
looks like Chesebro is now also pleading guilty
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Friday, 20 October 2023 16:32 (six months ago) link