Why does Lady Gaga get a free pass from hipsters?

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pitchfork's interest in him comes across as so tokenistic tho

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Saturday, 8 August 2009 14:21 (fourteen years ago) link

The Manchester Guardian's Alexander Pettingrew-Dickson called him "the legit sound of urban Prussia in 1872".

King Boy on Parole (King Boy Pato), Saturday, 8 August 2009 14:24 (fourteen years ago) link

lol yes david bowie must be extremely jealous

moonship ay to bay bay (M@tt He1ges0n), Saturday, 8 August 2009 14:29 (fourteen years ago) link

The European canon is here.

deep olives (Euler), Saturday, 8 August 2009 14:35 (fourteen years ago) link

what a disappointing "penis" that was

surfboard dudes get wiped out, totally, Saturday, 8 August 2009 15:42 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^ Yeah I'm really not at all convinced by that penis tbh.

ENBB, Saturday, 8 August 2009 23:12 (fourteen years ago) link

Good thing she's got a vagina as well so

❊❁❄❆❇❃✴❈plaxico❈✴❃❇❆❄❁❊ (I know, right?), Saturday, 8 August 2009 23:50 (fourteen years ago) link

http://abcnews.go.com/Entertainment/story?id=8278249&page=1

Lady Gaga's all woman.

That's what her manager's asserting after an up-skirt photo of the pop star sparked rumors that she's a hermaphrodite. The photo, taken from video shot at England's Glastonbury festival, reveals a bulge between Gaga's legs -- a bulge that could have been caused by undergarments, a bad angle, or, as some blogs would have you believe, a penis.

Bossip.com alleged that Gaga said this when asked about the subject:

"It's not something that I'm ashamed of, just isn't something that I go around telling everyone. Yes. I have both male and female genitalia, but I consider myself a female. It's just a little bit of a penis and really doesn't interfere much with my life. The reason I haven't talked about it is that it's not a big deal to me. Like come on. It's not like we all go around talking about our v***. I think this is a great opportunity to make other multiple gendered people feel more comfortable with their bodies. I'm sexy, I'm hot. I have both a **** and a p*****. Big f******g deal."

ABCNews.com asked Gaga's manager if the "Poker Face" singer is a hermaphrodite and if she said the above quote. His reply:

"This is completely ridiculous."

Gaga's sexuality has been the subject of intense speculation ever since she told Rolling Stone magazine that she considers herself bisexual, though her attraction to women is purely physical.

"I think I'm changing what people think is sexy," she told the magazine in May.

In June, she elaborated on the issue to USA Today, saying, "I don't think being gay or being bisexual or being sexually free is anything that should be hidden. Everybody has a right to their secrecy, of course, but I don't feel particularly shy about it. It is who I am. I sing very openly about it in my music, so I suppose I could say that I choose not to hide it in interviews because I don't care to hide it and, two, because it is very obvious in my music that I like women."

But apparently, that doesn't mean she's toting a disco stick of her own. Consider the Glastonbury festival photo a wardrobe malfunction, not a coming out.

velko, Thursday, 13 August 2009 08:49 (fourteen years ago) link

disco stick!

butthurt (deej), Thursday, 13 August 2009 08:59 (fourteen years ago) link

what's she getting a free pass to?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 13 August 2009 09:13 (fourteen years ago) link

bus travel

#/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:33 (fourteen years ago) link

is it good for an entire month or just one ride?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

i didn't issue it

#/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:36 (fourteen years ago) link

what we need is a bona fide hipster to answer this question.

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:37 (fourteen years ago) link

You need to get a unicorn, first.

Coz, like, the only way to find a true hipster is to take a unicorn into Shoreditch, and the first person the unicorn lays its head in their lap - that's a true hipster.

hüzün (Masonic Boom), Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:40 (fourteen years ago) link

is that the same as taking a white wolf to Williamsburg?

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:44 (fourteen years ago) link

By that logic, all hipsters are virgins.

#/.'#/'@ilikecats (g-kit), Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:48 (fourteen years ago) link

Guys, this is who can provide a definitive answer

free jazz and mumia (sarahel), Thursday, 13 August 2009 10:53 (fourteen years ago) link

four months pass...

gageir hongraga

― rip dom passantino 3/5/09 never forget (max)

Please never do this again, max.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 20:39 (fourteen years ago) link

"poker face" and "just dance" are much much better songs (and better suited for the dancefloor, which is key) than fucking "hit me baby one more time" which is music for ten-year-olds.

This is also true... adding "Paparazzi," "Bad Romance," "Alejandro" into the fold as well, all are great.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Tuesday, 12 January 2010 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

Does this mean that GaGa has finally received her long-desired hipster pass? Does it come with a gift bag or other free swag? Inquiring minds want to know.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13823-the-fame-monster/

Alex in Montreal, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 07:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Whatever it means, I like Scott's take on the album.

Johnny Fever, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 07:11 (fourteen years ago) link

http://www.41n93w.net/pix/babooshka_gaga.gif

the girl from spirea x (f. hazel), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 07:52 (fourteen years ago) link

It's because she's from outer space

PaulTMA, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 10:11 (fourteen years ago) link

^^^^^^^^^^ i'd be hard pressed to think of a current female artist who sounded *less* like kate bush than gaga

Karen Tregaskin, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 12:23 (fourteen years ago) link

nicki minaj

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 January 2010 12:29 (fourteen years ago) link

Does this mean that GaGa has finally received her long-desired hipster pass? Does it come with a gift bag or other free swag? Inquiring minds want to know.

http://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/13823-the-fame-monster/

I like Scott's review, a few minor quibbles aside (for example, the Krusty good/evil switch at the start is rather far fetched, but will resonate with Pfork readership who are used to seeing Gaga as a disposable, "evil" pop star and are now faced with seeing "Bad Romance" and "Paparazzi" in Pfork's Top Tracks of 2009, then a 7.8 rating for her newest EP).

What I found most immediately telling, though, was the blurb on the main Pfork page, which more or less validates Geir Hongro's view that OMG you guys, she is not just a pop star, she is a SONGWRITER, goddamnit!

Lady Gaga's second record, containing "Bad Romance" and "Speechless", finds her coming into her own as both a songwriter and a pop star.

Makes me wonder if the blurb wasn't written by Scott, given that he doesn't mention a damn thing about songwriting in his actual review...

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Anyway... The Fame Monster's good listening all around, so I'm glad that Scott may convert a few unfortunate Memory Tapes fans with his review.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 14:04 (fourteen years ago) link

but ... she is a songwriter. lol @ 'unfortunate memory tapes fans'

not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 16:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Debussy's Children's Corner was written for a three year old's entertainment fwiw

total masterpiece

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 16:46 (fourteen years ago) link

serious lolz@the notion of Gaga's songs being musically edgier than britney's though

Still waiting for her hit single featuring glissandi hooks

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 16:49 (fourteen years ago) link

steve what the hell are you talking about...

thought it was a v fair review, basically agree with the "switch" analogy, just cuz I couldn't stand her before this new EP, which has two songs I love

k3vin k., Wednesday, 13 January 2010 18:21 (fourteen years ago) link

Which two?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 18:26 (fourteen years ago) link

also really don't get how gaga is supposed to be edgier/more dancefloor-oriented than britney. just about anything on blackout works better as dance music, imo. (with the added bonus of being sleazy as hell!)

but she wears cool clothes and has neat videos, yeah.

original bgm, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

just about anything on blackout works better as dance music, imo.

That's kindly overlooking her other ~4 or so albums, which mostly work better as music for ten-year-olds.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:52 (fourteen years ago) link

i mean i can see arguing that lady gaga is more club-friendly but you are either vastly underestimating lots of britney singles or vastly overestimating the difference between them.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

i am growing to accept that i live in a world where most people like lady gaga but let's not kid ourselves here.

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:54 (fourteen years ago) link

wtf with this false dichotomy?

Hell is other people. In an ILE film forum. (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 19:55 (fourteen years ago) link

That's kindly overlooking her other ~4 or so albums, which mostly work better as music for ten-year-olds.

eh, not really. "toxic" isn't even on blackout and people go nuts to that.

and honestly, who cares? why do we even have to take her whole career into account? can't we just, you know, judge her on best material instead?

call all destoryer otm.

original bgm, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:02 (fourteen years ago) link

I know 12-year-olds across the country went gaga for "I'm A Slave 4 U".

living like the Na'vi will never happen (HI DERE), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:06 (fourteen years ago) link

lol

Do you love me now? (surm), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:08 (fourteen years ago) link

you guys are arguing with an ilxor who chose the sn 'ilxor'

not a playa but i ilx a lot (deej), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:09 (fourteen years ago) link

I guess I just feel bad for brit sometimes... :-/

original bgm, Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:17 (fourteen years ago) link

Everybody should lay off that girl. She's a saint.

Kylie is a vacant Phifer (kingkongvsgodzilla), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:18 (fourteen years ago) link

you guys are arguing with an ilxor who chose the sn 'ilxor'

Why is this a big deal again?

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:19 (fourteen years ago) link

I know 12-year-olds across the country went gaga for "I'm A Slave 4 U".

Actual huge LOL in the middle of my office workplace. Brilliant job, Dan, I'm impressed.

I just wish he hadn't adopted the "ilxor" moniker (ilxor), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:20 (fourteen years ago) link

serious lolz@the notion of Gaga's songs being musically edgier than britney's though

he wrote that? uhhhh

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:54 (fourteen years ago) link

huh

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 20:57 (fourteen years ago) link

i could understand it if he was praising gaga's sheer force of character over britney's, but britney has traded on the latest hott beats for most of her career - certainly since 2001

لوووووووووووووووووووول (lex pretend), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 21:02 (fourteen years ago) link

Who do you think I'm addressing though?

Salvador Dali Parton (Turangalila), Wednesday, 13 January 2010 21:12 (fourteen years ago) link


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