Carla Bley - C or D/S or D?

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If Marcello still posted here he'd probably have a few answers, but Night-Glo but would probably be among them.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 22:16 (six months ago) link

I think it’s mostly Michael Mantler’s album but it think she had something to do with the Edward Gorey tribute The Hapless Child .

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:40 (six months ago) link

"After giving up the church to immerse herself in roller skating at the age of fourteen, she moved to New York at seventeen and became a cigarette girl at Birdland."

is this amazing origin story common knowledge?

matcha man (outdoor_miner), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 00:11 (six months ago) link

her own recordings, her work with mantler, the haden collaborations (& yes ida lupino!) so much great music.

Which of her other records come closest to Escalator, Tropic Appetites and the Nick Mason album, in terms of being song-based and "rock-friendly"?

more a mantler joint than strictly bley though she's a big part of it, but maybe SILENCE (though not the biggest fan of it myself tbh)

no lime tangier, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 08:26 (six months ago) link

RIP. Would also highly recommend A Genuine Tong Funeral by Gary Burton, where Carla wrote all the tunes and plays piano alongside an incredible band. V much a trial run for Escalator.

I saw her live once, playing with Charlie Haden and a late version of the Liberation Music Orchestra during Ornette Coleman's Meltdown Festival in London. It seemed significant that she was the only musician on the night who didn't take an extended solo - a sign of reticence, even then? Or a commitment to thinking always as a composer/arranger first and foremost?

Ward Fowler, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 08:55 (six months ago) link

If Marcello still posted here he'd probably have a few answers, but Night-Glo but would probably be among them.


Speaking of: Marcello’s remembrance

https://warmrationalism.blogspot.com/2023/10/no-more-again-carla-bley.html

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:43 (six months ago) link

RIP. Would also highly recommend A Genuine Tong Funeral by Gary Burton, where Carla wrote all the tunes and plays piano alongside an incredible band. V much a trial run for Escalator.

Seconded.

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 12:45 (six months ago) link

It's basically the opposite of song-based and rock-friendly, but my favorite Carla piece is 3/4, her relentless sidelong exploration of triple meter from the 1975 split LP with Michael Mantler's 13. Somehow it's never been released digitally (on CD or otherwise). Hopefully someone steps up to reissue, though original vinyl copies are still pretty cheap for now.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3fAJ3z293GA

J. Sam, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 13:26 (six months ago) link

xp re: song-based stuff, check out the first (live) half of I Hate To Sing if you have a high tolerance for whimsy/goofiness.

J. Sam, Wednesday, 18 October 2023 16:34 (six months ago) link

Time/Life, a tribute to Charlie Haden mostly made up of her compositions, with her arranging and on piano is absolutely beautiful and i hate it never got a vinyl release. In my top 5-10 ECM releases.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lj_Z2nhDlh4

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:33 (six months ago) link

realised i'm a dummy and its not actually an ECM release! feels like it should be?

Hmmmmm (jamiesummerz), Wednesday, 18 October 2023 18:33 (six months ago) link

Regarding 3/4, while working on the archive for Glasgow arts space the Third Eye Centre (now the CCA), I came across a copy of the reduced score alongside a letter from Bley on JCOA headed paper. One of those amazing moments in a researcher's career when you stumble across gold. From the letter, it seems that there were plans to perform the piece in Glasgow with Scottish musicians, but it never came to fruition - mostly likely the usual logistics and funding. Bley's humour really comes across in the letter. She had visited the Third Eye in 1975 when touring with Jack Bruce, but didn't play Glasgow as leader until 1992. Photos here:
https://thirdeyejazz.blogspot.com/2021/09/the-third-eye-carla-bley-connection.html

Composition 40b (Stew), Thursday, 19 October 2023 11:49 (six months ago) link

wow

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 19 October 2023 11:53 (six months ago) link

*applause*

The First Time Ever I Saw Gervais (Tom D.), Thursday, 19 October 2023 12:29 (six months ago) link

Nice one Stew. Now where can I get some of that JCOA stationery...

Ward Fowler, Thursday, 19 October 2023 12:31 (six months ago) link

RIP to a giant. i discovered carla bley via emily haines of metric; the artwork of her heartbreaking solo piano album 'knives don't have your back' is a homage to 'escalator over the hill', one of the most mystifying records in the world, to which her father paul haines (magic jazz poet who WROTE IN ALL CAPS ALWAYS) wrote the libretto. <3

maelin, Thursday, 19 October 2023 19:55 (six months ago) link

Marcello Carlin, writing for Stylus Magazine, considers the album to be "the greatest record ever made." He said: "No protest, no social commentary. No expression of love, of grief, of hope, of despair. It is literally whatever you want to make of it. It is devoid of every quality which you might assume would qualify it to be the greatest of all records. And yet it is that tabula rasa in its heart, the blank space which may well exist at the very heart of all music, revealing the hard truth that we have to fill in the blanks, we have to interpret what is being played and sung, and our interpretation is the only one which can possibly be valid, as we cannot discern any perspective other than our own.

maelin, Thursday, 19 October 2023 19:56 (six months ago) link

Dave Douglas/Riverside also did a Carla Bley tribute album with 3 of her compositions in 2017.

EvR, Monday, 23 October 2023 15:36 (six months ago) link


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