The National

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I like both of these two national albums fine, but they are a little dull compared to Boxer, Alligator, and High Violet. But there's nothing bad on them at all, definitely. That's def where Wilco landed to me sometime around Ghost...I listen to the records, they're good, they don't stick with me, whether that's the fault of the album or just my jaded ears, I don't know. At least they aren't making albums I think suck.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 21:31 (six months ago) link

and like, I'm still going to go see the National live on this tour, even though they are playing a place I hate. Because they are phenomenal live, even when they play things I don't love.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 21:32 (six months ago) link

yo la tengo and wilco are definitely much more interesting bands with much higher highs and yo la tengo put out one of their very best albums just this year

the national are kinda frustrating because they seem capable of making something really compelling and great but never quite get there beyond the occasional track here and there. very good at being fine, decent enough, etc. though

ufo, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 23:36 (six months ago) link

yeah I was going to say I was actually surprised by that YLT album, it kind of somehow regained all that magic that I'd loved and felt kind of disappeared with Summer Sun. I also think the National might still again make another album as strong as High Violet. But they also might turn into U2.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Wednesday, 11 October 2023 23:46 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Just heard the track they did with Taylor Swift ("Alcott"), I kinda dug it.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Monday, 30 October 2023 23:05 (six months ago) link

still can't say I love the last two albums (or even three or four) as much as anything prior but I saw them last night in SF and they remain one of my favorite live acts. 29 song set, even things I didn't love or wasn't super familiar with were great.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Saturday, 11 November 2023 18:56 (five months ago) link


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