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Everything said in that article makes sense if your point of reference for experimental music is Radiohead, as it is for the author.

zacata, Monday, 9 October 2023 17:52 (six months ago) link

they should get sparhawk & bj burton in

― ufo, Friday, September 29, 2023 4:38 PM (one week ago) bookmarkflaglink

Hell, just have Tweedy make the hot tag with those two and you’d have a Wilco I could get behind.

Western® with Bacon Flavor, Monday, 9 October 2023 17:54 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

I've been going through a stack of bootleg CD-R's that I dug out of storage, and one of them is (most of) Wilco's set from Summerfest in Milwaukee, WI from July 4, 1998. Great soundboard recording, possibly no generational loss, this is right on the heels of Mermaid Avenue. (Billy Bragg is even playing that same day, albeit in NYC, drawing most of his setlist from that same album as well.) The standout is actually the-yet-to-be-released "I'm Always in Love," and I never realized how much they sweetened it up for Summerteeth. When I first heard it there, I immediately thought "Beach Boys," but here it sounds like it came out of a spot-on cover of the Velvet Underground's "I'm Waiting for the Man."

birdistheword, Wednesday, 3 January 2024 08:09 (three months ago) link

There’s some pretty interesting shit happening on Cousin, I’m beginning to realise. The songs sound slightly listless on a casual listen but there’s a submarine pull to them which is kind of sick and thrilling. I’m a bit obsessed with “Levee” at the moment.

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 3 January 2024 11:44 (three months ago) link

two months pass...

i'm realising cousin feels most like a sequel to a ghost is born? similarly mellow/restrained with a lot of songs driven by piano or fingerpicked acoustic guitar, and weird atmospherics in the background. i'm appreciating it more now and it even holds together better than a ghost is born even if it doesn't reach the same highs. they should probably put out a follow-up live album though because i bet the songs really work better live, just like a ghost is born

they've also just toured japan for the first time in 8 years so maybe there'll be progress on that third loose fur album at last?

ufo, Sunday, 10 March 2024 12:02 (one month ago) link

This has probably been mentioned upthread somewhere, but after years of wondering what the cover of summerteeth was supposed to be I looked it up. It's a person blowing a gigantic bubble of bubble gum.

Cow_Art, Sunday, 10 March 2024 12:36 (one month ago) link

they really are the best live band in the world it turns out. easily one of the best shows i've ever seen. they jammed out "bird without a tail" for 9 minutes and it really deserves to be a permanent live staple now. "at least that's what you said" was genuinely kinda life affirming as silly as it sounds. even "how to fight loneliness", which is hardly my favourite, was pretty great and way better than the album version

is kotche the best drummer in the history of rock?

ufo, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 13:23 (one month ago) link

i wish i'd managed to get a ticket for last night too now

ufo, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 13:23 (one month ago) link

Kotche is great. He's the king of underplaying, which is an invisible skill that often goes (not surprisingly) unnoticed. "Check out all the stuff he's not doing!" But he's really sneakily creative about what he's not playing, and you know he's one of the greats because everyone, from other drummers on down, recognizes he's great *despite* the underplaying.

I still haven't heard the new record (or the previous three, tbh), but the new song I hear sometimes ("Meant to Be"?) is really good and not at all what I expected. Super poppy, sounds a little like the Pretenders.

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 13:41 (one month ago) link

what really stuck out to me about kotche was how much nuance there was in his playing, it was incredibly detailed. he was pretty much always doing something interesting and intricate, though never doing too much. cline is an absolutely incredible player too of course and it was pretty amazing how much the two of them add to the pre-yhf songs.

the last two albums are some of the strongest they've made in quite a while, especially cruel country, they're definitely worth checking out. "bird without a tail" off cruel country is the best thing they've done in over a decade, although the studio version pales in comparison to what they've turned it into live. they finally have a second "impossible germany" and sansone gets to go wild alongside cline on it

ufo, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 14:12 (one month ago) link

Cline gets much of the attention but I think Kotche is the most talented musician in the band. Both have created a style completely their own that is immediately recognizable and yet impossible to recreate. I've never heard anyone say "check out this new band, their drummer reminds me of Glenn."

Indexed, Wednesday, 13 March 2024 14:25 (one month ago) link


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