discogs marketplace?

ah gotcha

Found a mint/sealed copy of an LP I wanted, at an OK price (two others that were cheaper turned out to be unavailable). It arrived pretty quickly, but the seller in their haste to package it but a staple through the top right corner of the outer and inner sleeves. I gave neutral feedback accordingly; the seller appealed for me to change it (which isn’t possible) and offered a discount, but qualified it with spiel about their margins. Dude, it was your mistake and that’s the cost of doing business. Nevertheless I felt pressured into removing my feedback. I’ll get a few euros back, probably, but that’s not really the point, is it?

I dunno, sounds like a conscientious seller who made an honest mistake then tried to make it right.
For people who work in the ratings economy (uber drivers, airbnb landlords, discogs sellers) those ratings are their brand, and you should probably only leave non-positive feedback if you're trying to warn others off of dealing with them (which doesn't sound like the case here?).

Unless there is wanton fuckery afoot, the expectation is that you talk to the seller to resolve problems before leaving feedback. Sometimes shit happens and I like to give people the benefit of the doubt. If they don't resolve it properly, then you leave negative feedback.

yup

Fair enough; this is the first time I’ve had a problem with anything I’ve bought there since I started in 2020 or so. I’ve removed my feedback and in hindsight I should have hashed it out with the seller first, that was hasty of me.

I never hesitate to five-star etc any Uber or Amazon delivery. Yet. I feel like a Discogs seller is a different category: you’re a shop proprietor, only online, and I expect service like I'd get in any shop. Also, I’ve purchased from sellers with >100% positive feedback, because I looked to see what the issues were.

the way i look at it, there are inevitably going to be problems that arise with mail order, whether that's something overlooked while grading or a mishap in transit. the seller's reaction to these problems is how i decide if it's a "positive" experience, because expecting there to be no issues at all is unrealistic

I think it's also a bit unrealistic to expect shop-level service from Discogs sellers, some may be business sellers but a lot are just people selling off bits of their collections

please look at feedback before buying. your chance of happiness goes WAY up when someone has good feedback. and also see how much they have sold. if they have 10,000 positive feedbacks? you are good to go. when i bought records on ebay i would only buy from people who ONLY sold records/discs.

yeah it's especially important now that the site is flooded with scammers. sucks because in the past people with discounted prices and low amounts of feedback were actually legit, just people trying to sell off things for quick cash

Neutral feedback is a fair thing though.

One time I 'won' a Nick Drake early pressing (eBay) for a low price but apparently he left it by the door and the dog attacked it so it was undespatchable.

I got refunded, but I left neutral feedback because yeah right. But it could have happened I suppose.

Anyway, I got a 'why did you do that?' email from him - I wanted to make sure he didn't pull that stunt again if it was a stunt. I didn't tell him that, and nothing further happened.

i think it's definitely fair in that scenario

I just don’t leave feedback at all when it comes to weird cases like that

oh wait, he delivered it himself??? weird

I have actually made in-person transactions through eBay, but it's usually because 1) I offered local pickup or 2) someone noticed my item location and asked first. If it was pre-arranged, it's fine, but if they did it without telling (maybe to pocket the postage payment for themselves?), not cool.

I’ve hand-delivered Discogs items but will always refund the shipping in that case.

oh wait, he delivered it himself??? weird

No.

ah geez sorry I think it get it now, the seller was saying the package was damaged inside their home, not outside of yours

I wonder if there's a way to get your seller terms to appear in bold 40pt font.

"have you sent the CD yet?"

it would probably be a good idea to learn to read before ordering CDs on the internet

in my seller terms: "I post on Saturdays"

"oh well I didn't read that" maybe you should try to? wtf is wrong with people

but technically it's Saturday there right? ;)

I ran across a weird one. Non-paying buyer. Dude has a 17% approval rating. I checked his feedback history and literally 4 out of every 5 transactions, he doesn’t complete. What the hell is he up to?

The only thing I can think of is that he randomly “buys” (but doesn’t pay for) a shit-ton of records, hoping that every once in a while a seller will accidentally post him the record …. ?

I sold an Emitt Rhodes 2xCD for £30 this week but it's going to the USA so it probably won't arrive and the max I can claim from the Royal Mail is £20.

I assume some countries have a functioning mail system.

you know, I did accidentally post a CD to someone who didn't pay a few weeks back, maybe that's their game

it was a Belle & Sebastian CD that I listed for 99p so not a big deal except the cunt was in the USA so I paid like £7 to post it

I did post on the Discogs forum, why the fuck are they even allowing people to make orders without paying now? the only reason they allowed that before was because you had to calculate postage. now it's literally just a reason for time wasting cunts to waste your time

I almost posted a record to a non-payer today (not the same one). Honestly I’ve had it so long and the postage would only be like $4, I almost sent it anyway with a note saying “Merry Xmas”

Plus I had already packed it up and addressed it, so sunk costs.

I've been more careful since I fucked that one up. I do not understand why it's so shit that it lets people make orders without paying for them. but at least I know to look out for it now.

Far be it from me to praise eBay for anything, but now when you make on offer on an item, if the seller accepts it, the payment is immediately withdrawn from whatever payment method you have on file. I haven't yet enjoyed this feature as a seller, but I've bought a few things this way and I wish Discogs would implement something similar.

I don't get why people order things and don't pay for them. If I buy something, it's because I want the damn thing, so I always pay immediately because that's just common sense. This also leaves no time for buyer's remorse, which is I guess why people flake out on paying for the things they impulsively bid on in the wee intoxicated hours.

I turned off offers because my prices are already v low because I price things to sell.

I still had some cunt message me this week moaning because I had all 3 Mazzy Star albums on CD, and he said can you lower the prices because I could buy them all separate for less than you're selling them. I checked, and for all 3 I was the cheapest for all of them in the UK, and 2 of them were 50p cheaper if you bought them elsewhere, but for 1 I was the cheapest in the world.

I was at least somewhat vindicated when someone bought So Tonight Etc this week.

they were all priced £2.50 to £4. fucking cheapskate cunts. I assume they are just scammers who want to buy them as low as possible just to sell them on after

If discogs needs the money from those Ticketmaster-style "offers", they clearly don't have the money to pay more than 1 or 2 part-time programmers, who don't have time to implement your feature ideas because they're too busy trying to keep things from falling over.

but it's going to the USA so it probably won't arrive and the max I can claim from the Royal Mail is £20.

I assume some countries have a functioning mail system.

Do items sent to the US have a habit of not arriving? That surprises me

no tbh the US is fairly OK but my heart sinks every time I get an order outside the UK, I meant the UK mail system which is absolutely shit

I toy with just disabling every country but the UK on my shipping policies. Italy and Eastern Europe are particularly bad for this. just got a message from someone in Serbia asking where their CD is

I'm not sure if I've ever successfully sent CDs to eastern Europe tbh. couple of days ago I just cashed a refund cheque from Royal Mail from sending 10 CDs to Bulgaria which didn't turn up

I do wonder where all the stuff people order that doesn't arrive ends up.

I ordered a 28lb bag of cat litter and a 10lb bag of cat food a few weeks ago, and fucking Evri (used be called Hermes) somehow managed to lose it. where did it go? that's not a small package.

I've sent stuff all over the world, and less than 1% have gang awa'

Once, the buyer asked if I could send it to the country next door, as they were limited to how many foreign packages they were allowed per year. I was like hmm, but I did get a nice feedback 2 months later, so hey.

good overview

Discogs’ vibrant vinyl community is shattering

(Discogs declined to comment for this story.)

Many sellers who spoke with The Verge speculated, in line with the viral thread, that the company was trying to pump up its valuation for a potential sale. All of them, though, had the sense that Discogs was trying to increase its profit margins without necessarily offering any improvements to its product in return.

Far be it from me to praise eBay for anything, but now when you make on offer on an item, if the seller accepts it, the payment is immediately withdrawn from whatever payment method you have on file.

this isn't uniformaly true, or you have to turn something on to make it happen. I mean it's happened to me as a buyer several times and that's fine; but I have a book listed and someone made an offer, I accepted it, and then they just replied "sorry I got something else" and didn't pay and I had to relist. I sent them a message saying "making an offer is a commitment to buy" and they didn't even respond.

I hang out in a private FB group for record buying/selling and there is a guy in the group who will instantly block anyone who doesn't pay within, like, 30 minutes of claiming a record, I am not that hardcore but I like that he makes it well known as the default baseline

he might just give people 15 minutes, I should ask. ex-ILXor jaxon is on there!

i'm curious why Simonetti deleted that thread and why he's not consulted more for that article.

also good to see this issue mentioned by others: "the European seller, for example, had just been dealing with an issue with the platform’s refund button. “Discogs said it was PayPal’s fault, and PayPal said it was Discogs’ fault,” he says. “It caused stress for the buyers, and so I had to do direct refunds — which meant I was refunding not just what I made but Discogs’ and PayPal’s commissions as well, effectively losing money on the refund.”

sleeve which group is that? jaxon and I are in some fb vinyl collecting groups too

LPSM, are you on there?

"LP Swap Meet-Buy, Sell & Trade"

if not u should get jaxon to invite u

will do!

super good vibes altho everyone in the group hates FB and (to tie back in to the article above) one member is coding up an alternative website to eventually replace the group

for example, a friend of mine went to FB jail for posting a totally-not-obscene Hunx & His Punks LP cover in the group