Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

they seem to be tiptoeing around a gag order in all of the cases because he's a presidential candidate, perhaps when a witness or a court official ends up dead they might think he's gone a bit too far this time!

can he be taken into custody on CoC in a trial like this or is it just censure

nothing will happen because roaches dont die but in *theory* anyway...

when is this fucker going to die

Jesus is right there. Trump could just go with him.

"When you saw only one set of footprints, it was then that I carried you."

(attempts to lift Trump)

"Fuck, what a gluttonous slob. Why don't you get some steps in yourself, you lazy-ass lump."

Can't believe this has to keep being said but can we maybe focus on Trump's being a hateful, racist, fraudulent wannabe-dictator and maybe not crack jokes about his weight, as those won't hurt him but might make others feel shit?

Yup - it's shit like making fun of people's weight that is the reason we hate Trump.

Agree that there are lots of other avenues to attack that individual.

I am, however, mildly okay with at least some petty snipes at Trump, because he deals in them. And lo, it is written: thou shalt not disheth it out if thou cannot taketh it.

If he is going to deal in petty appearance-based slights about Liddle Marco or about his rape accusers not being Tens, then one can be forgiven for some of the (admittedly pretty juvenile) slights about the size of his hands or his stupid "hair" or the degeneracy of his diet or his ketchup/well-done steak habit or whatever.

Of course I don't condone any line of attack that makes decent, innocemt people feel hurt. But... Trump has taken the low road so many times that I am not sure we're obliged to take the high road where he is concerned.

Whoops!

https://themessenger.com/politics/trump-gag-order-new-york-engoron-clerk-truth-social

It's notable that the judge has clearly let Trump skate on all the venting against himself, but as soon as Trump did this, the hammer fell. One suspects his lawyers will take the hint in turn. Also: since Don Jr and Eric are part of this as well, they can't be proxies for dad here.

Barron, you're hired!

I'm sure this, finally, will keep T in check

I mean what happens if he defies the gag order? can't be good

I actually am honestly wondering what Trump will do here.

I'm sure this, finally, will keep T in check

― peanut filibuster parfait (Eric H.),

When he, finally, became presidential.

Quoth the judge, "Failure to abide by this order will result in serious sanctions." Saw somewhere that that could mean 30 days in jail.

His lawyers probably have a hard enough job keeping the phone out of his stubby little hands during the trial, lest he be actively "truthing" during it.

can he be taken into custody on CoC in a trial like this or is it just censure

― Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:19 AM

In theory, a contemnor of a lawful order in a civil case in New York can be fine, or arrested and jailed. It depends how far the contempt goes.

Looks like we are going to find out.

fined

Per a Bluesky post from Popehat/Ken White:

Annoying, insulting, or picking on courtroom staff is foolish on an entirely different level than just annoying the judge.

You have NO IDEA the array of things that can start going badly for you. And judges are VERY protective of staff.

fuck around, fined out

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q9b7QwdCWhw

Separately from legal reporter Adam Klasfeld, attending the trial:

One of the reasons Trump was playing with fire going after *this* clerk:

She's an active participant in Engoron's cases, and she sometimes personally questions the parties. In fact, she grilled Trump's lawyers in critical pre-trial hearings in this case. https://t.co/yxODiZhUeu

— Adam Klasfeld (@KlasfeldReports) October 3, 2023

Basically he really did the stupidest thing possibly in a case where there's only one person who makes the decisions.

Did laugh at him saying he has a 'buyer beware' statement on all his business docs saying the figures above are all BS you want the real ones hey do your own research' outside the courtroom.

Basically he really did the stupidest thing possibly in a case where there's only one person who makes the decisions. every moment of his life

^^^ and yet.

And this is only the first (second? third? fourth?) of five (six? seven? eight?) court cases, plus whatever other trouble he gets himself into.

On the one hand, he's once again demonstrated that he's the most recklessly stupid motherfucker on earth. On the other hand, being the most recklessly stupid motherfucker on earth has served him pretty well for nearly 80 years.

At this point, I'm basically betting on him dying peacefully in his sleep just before ever having to suffer any serious repercussions of his many, many malfeasances. I mean, yes, we're leading up to lots of potential comeuppance right now but at this phase in the process it's mostly just an annoyance for him.

I mean, it really is about proving that he can do literally anything and daring anyone to stop him, right? Everything is simultaneously the stupidest and the most necessary thing for him to do in the context of the persona he's cultivated

He should just go ahead and take a literal dump on the courtroom floor.

“Personal attacks on members on my court staff are unacceptable, inappropriate, and I won't tolerate it [in my courtroom],” said New York State Supreme Court Justice Arthur Engoron.

He added later to "consider this a gag order for all parties from posting about any members of my staff."

feel like he should be able to avoid talking about court staff, if this was a gag order for the whole case theres no way lol

Yeah, but tell him he can't, and he will.

thats true it would be delicious to just say one little thing more

Everyone thought that seeing Trump in a courtroom would be cathartic, but little did they know he'd be sitting there posting slash/fic about the courtroom staff

Oh, he will! At least one more thing.

The man is a black hat hacker of American democracy, whether he’s aware of it or not.

the judge gave and order a very mean order that i cant say anything about the court staff, like i couldnt say that theyre bought and paid for the by the deep state, i couldnt make a beautiful statement like that, its sad really

when is this fucker going to die

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Tuesday, October 3, 2023 10:20 AM (two hours ago)

Feel like he's gonna get Caesared at some point

On 5th Avenue.

Or, more likely, Nicky-in-Casino'ed

Little Caesared - Chokes on Crazy Bread

"Did laugh at him saying he has a 'buyer beware' statement on all his business docs saying the figures above are all BS you want the real ones hey do your own research' outside the courtroom."

he actually said this was a brilliant and solid "worthless clause" that insulates him from legality, that's the actual term he used .... lol

Guess he decided to behave himself for now:

As for Mr. Trump, he sat quietly during the afternoon, occasionally making comments to his lawyers as he watched one aggressively question the accountant, Donald Bender.

After court concluded, he did not respond to questions about the judge’s order but said he would return to the trial Wednesday.

Maybe he'll learn something. Wouldn't it be funny if he went to jail and got a law degree? After he converted to Islam?

What if Trump started publishing a ‘zine in prison and it was shockingly great.

— Jon Wurster (@jonwurster) March 31, 2023

Yeah, but tell him he can't, and he will.
you just know he's got some massive scotoma in his vision from looking at that eclipse trying to be a tough guy

I don't know dick about the law BUT! I have seen a number of police procedural shows, and the lawyer who gets a contempt of court charge typically spends a night in jail. I can totally see Trump scaring up a CoC on purpose here and there, seeing that night in the slam as priceless pr for his sad cause.

Or, more likely, Nicky-in-Casino'ed

I predict a Jeremy Bentham type future for his remains