Poll: what's the worst part of getting old?

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Right then, as a 61 year old smoker and drinker who regularly gets mistaken for being in his forties, I think it’s time I shared my Beauty Secrets! I wash my face every morning and evening with Kiehls Facial Fuel face wash, and I moisturise every morning with Kiehls Facial Fuel moisturiser (important: NOT the version with SPF protection, as that does feel like goop). They are both excellent products that don’t feel gross to use (ugh, Nivea, vile stuff), and I’ve been using them for years. Not the cheapest, but even when money has been tight, I’ve stuck with them (sometimes as birthday/Xmas presents from relatives, as they are perfect for putting on wish lists).

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:01 (six months ago) link

kiehls is good shit. i forgot i had this burt's bees sensitive skin body lotion. i done been puttin it on ma face. feels good!

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:03 (six months ago) link

nivea is super gross. it's what my mom always used. i like jojoba / argan for my beard. some kind of coconut / shea thing is probably good for me as a moisturizer. looking at the ingredients on the burt's bees - seems like a lot of weird stuff in there? though it does feel good. i might have to do some "research" lol.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:10 (six months ago) link

My partner uses Argan oil on his face, and is almost evangelical about it. Still sticking with my Kiehls though!

mike t-diva, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:13 (six months ago) link

I used to melt together shea butter, coconut oil, and a little jojoba (and let it set) for a homemade moisturizer although it can be a little greasy. You can also buy shea butter on its own and use that. There are a lot of natural options.

Piggy Lepton (La Lechera), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:16 (six months ago) link

I'm bald and my beard is more salt than pepper. No amount of Kiehls miracle elixir is going to work. Plus, 40 notes for 125ml!

I would prefer not to. (Chinaski), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:28 (six months ago) link

I was gonna say, Kiehl's is nice stuff (still have a couple of sachets from a gift pack years ago) but it's around 7-8x more expensive than supermarket brands like Nivea.
Captain Save-a-Nivea here.

Michael Jones, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:34 (six months ago) link

haha. yeah i'm not gonna shell out for kiehls tbh. argan is probably my favorite of these 'skin stuff' oils tbh - i think i'll try it.

ꙮ (map), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 14:51 (six months ago) link

If you have a Nordstrom near you, the July yearly sale has Kiehl’s at a 30% discount. The 33.8 oz size Facial Fuel, usually $64, was $40ish. Needing a dime size or less, that’ll last a year for me.

the body of a spider... (scampering alpaca), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 15:10 (six months ago) link

Sunny out today. Should have worn my hat like Elvis Telecom.

Dose of Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:09 (six months ago) link

Each unshaded section of sidewalk is like The Devil’s Anvil.

Dose of Thunderwords (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 18:12 (six months ago) link

my skin looks shockingly good for someone my age who used to smoke.

i'd like to know your routine. my skincare routine = wearing sunblock when i go to the beach and applying it improperly :(

one product i will stan for is Laneige lip mask, i've suffered from severely cracked and chapped lips my whole life until i started using this stuff 2x a day. i was a really bad case, it was painful and bloody, could never find anything that helped but this completely solved the problem. it's like $28 for a little jar which seems very expensive but it's lasted me almost a year.

Easter underwear (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 19:19 (six months ago) link

three weeks pass...

today i would like to honor the birth anniversary of Dick Trickle, the patron saint of all of us with benign prostatic hyperplasia. shout outs to the cis men who have to sit down to pee.

Kate (rushomancy), Friday, 27 October 2023 15:59 (six months ago) link

Realizing none of this shit matters and you entire life was a pointless waste.

brotherlovesdub, Friday, 27 October 2023 16:02 (six months ago) link

^ best part of getting old IMO

Tim, Friday, 27 October 2023 16:19 (six months ago) link

(So much less pressure)

Tim, Friday, 27 October 2023 16:20 (six months ago) link

I'm quite at peace with not amounting to anything and leaving a less than minimal trace when I die, that's what I call sweet obscurity to nick a quote from Georges Rouault (who wasn't really that obscure and probably meant in a different context but never mind!)

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Friday, 27 October 2023 17:01 (six months ago) link

xxxp I kind of disagree with that, but more from the angle of realising that none of the shit your teachers/parents/elders said was important actually matters. Living your life is what matters, and if you do that then you haven't wasted your life, regardless of what other people say.

you gotta roll with the pączki to get to what's real (snoball), Friday, 27 October 2023 17:37 (six months ago) link

I have an intrusive thought sometimes of going up to a random grandpa saddened by his friends all dying around him by reminding him he's also outlived his enemies, and in my fantasy it plays out exactly like in this C&H strip:
https://mickaboo.org/sites/default/files/images/Calvin%20and%20Hobbes%202-19-88.gif

Philip Nunez, Friday, 27 October 2023 17:54 (six months ago) link

none of the shit your teachers/parents/elders said was important actually matters. Living your life is what matters

While I was 17 and a high school student I took the NMSQT. Some months later I got a letter in the mail telling me that I had qualified as a National Merit Scholarship Finalist (nb: oddly, this honor did not qualify me for any kind of scholarship whatsoever, but it sounded very impressive).

The letter also informed me that because I had such an elite intellect it was my destiny to become one of the leaders of my nation in some capacity. I read that and irately thought "who the fuck are these people to tell me what to do with my life? they don't know me and I don't know them." Then I tossed the letter in the wastebasket.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Saturday, 28 October 2023 04:02 (six months ago) link

Realizing none of this shit matters and you entire life was a pointless waste.


William Shatner gave a good quote on this. When asked what he wishes he had known at 20 that he knows at 90: “I’m glad I didn’t know because what you know at 90 is: take it easy, nothing matters in the end, what goes up must come down. If I’d known that at 20, I wouldn’t have done anything.”

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2021/may/20/william-shatner-interview-love-loss-and-leonard-nimoy

Alba, Saturday, 28 October 2023 08:00 (six months ago) link

Realizing none of this shit matters and you entire life was a pointless waste.

Does anyone ever really reach that realisation as a permanent state? I’m in the last year of my 50s and still wound up by life constantly: from the trivialities of IT outages at work through to the “how did I end up in this position?” self-reflections.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 28 October 2023 08:08 (six months ago) link

If none of it matters then there's nothing wasted, isn't it, eh?

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 28 October 2023 09:43 (six months ago) link

I believe that nothing matters but I desire to make my journey to the end point suck as little as possible.

Jeff, Saturday, 28 October 2023 10:51 (six months ago) link

I’m slightly worried about these “philosophies”/outlooks. Not so much in terms of their validity - but how they inspire of justify how people act.

One variant I heard a lot about few years ago from fellow 50 somethings, including family members, was: “I’m just making the most of the time I’ve got left”. It’s a short step from that to “and that’s why I should put myself first and not help with aging parents/help with probate /selling of family house etc” No offence intended to any ilx posters - but family members have driven me slightly crazy with this.

Dr Drudge (Bob Six), Saturday, 28 October 2023 12:14 (six months ago) link

That's definitely not a direction I would take these feelings.

Alba, Saturday, 28 October 2023 12:24 (six months ago) link

Yesterday I saw an elderly woman in a wheelchair being pushed down the street. On her face was an expression of sheer terror.

calstars, Saturday, 28 October 2023 12:39 (six months ago) link

My grandmother, who died at 103, told me not long before she died, "I feel like I've done everything in life I wanted to do." It has stayed with me as the place I would like to be at the end.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 15:52 (six months ago) link

"shout outs to the cis men who have to sit down to pee"

i don't have to but i do! i have a very erratic stream. kinda like my brain. and its just me who is going to have to clean it up. plus, its peaceful sitting down. i watched a male comedian who says he likes it because now he's really into micro-deucing.

scott seward, Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:06 (six months ago) link

that comedian was funny. he said: "Remember, 100% of failure comes from trying."

scott seward, Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:07 (six months ago) link

my least fave thing about aging is the whole: "Where is the...the...tooth thing...the for the...*makes sawing motion*...for the teeth...you know...???" Maria: "Uh, dental floss...??" WORST charades partner ever.

scott seward, Saturday, 28 October 2023 16:10 (six months ago) link

Sometimes I think television can be profound (or at least make you think).

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSxnBYPM72I

clemenza, Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:07 (six months ago) link

I’m in the last year of my 50s and still wound up by life constantly

62, still waiting for serenity now. I don't think it ever comes, or at least won't for me.

clemenza, Saturday, 28 October 2023 17:08 (six months ago) link

Realizing none of this shit matters and you entire life was a pointless waste.

― brotherlovesdub

brotherlovesdub, speaking as someone who is a well of infinite sadness with a lonely soul, do you think that you might possibly be suffering from depression?

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:20 (six months ago) link

that comedian was funny. he said: "Remember, 100% of failure comes from trying."

― scott seward

my ex used to say that. "well, you tried. and you know what the lesson of that is? Never Try."

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:27 (six months ago) link

your ex was Homer Simpson?(!)

Philip Nunez, Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:30 (six months ago) link

While I was 17 and a high school student I took the NMSQT. Some months later I got a letter in the mail telling me that I had qualified as a National Merit Scholarship Finalist (nb: oddly, this honor did not qualify me for any kind of scholarship whatsoever, but it sounded very impressive).

The letter also informed me that because I had such an elite intellect it was my destiny to become one of the leaders of my nation in some capacity. I read that and irately thought "who the fuck are these people to tell me what to do with my life? they don't know me and I don't know them." Then I tossed the letter in the wastebasket.

― more difficult than I look (Aimless)

oh yeah that's a whole big thing. when i took my PSAT i got the same letter and where i grew up it was a Very Big Deal and it was impressed upon me that it was something to be taken Very Seriously. i actually got a semi-finalist letter... they only made you a finalist when they'd done a background check to make sure you weren't a communist or something. people in my school spent a lot of time trying to be national merit scholars.

so i did too. i had to live up to my reputation as a Clever Boy. see, you could become a national merit finalist by (a) not being a communist and (b) getting a good grade on the PSAT or NMSQT or whatever the equivalent in your region was, but to be a national merit _scholar_ you had to impress the people deciding it with your _character_. so i joined a high school club that did performative charity. after i sliced the palm of my hand open trying to do some meaningless bit of performative charity, i concluded that being a successful person wasn't particularly worth it.

but because i had a strong work ethic, i worked very, very hard at being a failure. i was very successful at it, by which i mean i failed completely at it and turned out to be a successful, accomplished person anyway. i accomplished this by dressing as a girl, which surprised me because i had been taught that this was the _single worst thing i could possibly do_ and would ruin my life forever.

the worst part of getting old is realizing that you failed puberty and you're going to have to re-take it. also the best part of growing old, though, so it evens out.

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:39 (six months ago) link

your ex was Homer Simpson?(!)

― Philip Nunez

no, homer simpson is a notorious joke thief and stole all of my ex's best material

Kate (rushomancy), Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:40 (six months ago) link

One of my college-age kids got an invitation to some pay-for-play "national scholar" organization. They tried very hard to make it look like he was being offered some kind of prestigious honor. That kind of shit irritates me to no end.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:43 (six months ago) link

My grandmother, who died at 103, told me not long before she died, "I feel like I've done everything in life I wanted to do." It has stayed with me as the place I would like to be at the end.


I feel like that now!

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:47 (six months ago) link

#winning

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:48 (six months ago) link

Best way to accomplish yr goals in life is to never have any.

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 28 October 2023 21:53 (six months ago) link

Once in a while I can recognize a shadow of what life was like 20 years ago and that’s a good feeling

calstars, Saturday, 28 October 2023 22:01 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

The increasing impossibility of getting through a single post on here longer than five words without a typo, dropped word, etc. (which I can't blame on a cell phone). I'm not sure how much of that is attributable to age, and how much is being too lazy to read over what I've typed. Or if there's any difference.

clemenza, Saturday, 9 March 2024 16:43 (one month ago) link

Still voting for friends/loved ones dying but the physical aches and pains have crept up this year

sarahell, Saturday, 9 March 2024 17:56 (one month ago) link

100 pct of my typos and post errors are due to the dumbass phone

calstars, Saturday, 9 March 2024 18:03 (one month ago) link

(xpost) Needless to say, those two--and a thousand other things--are worse. But I find the typos exasperating and dispiriting.

clemenza, Saturday, 9 March 2024 18:10 (one month ago) link


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