when you are having a bench trial, best thing you can do is slag off the judge and call the AG "racist" outside the court - every little bit helps!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:18 (seven months ago) link
xpost You mean the same judge that already ordered the entire organization potentially dissolved?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:18 (seven months ago) link
Missing a request for a jury trial is pretty much per se malpractice.
― what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:19 (seven months ago) link
If I had to vaguely guess, besides being that's the only way he thinks, some part of him/the lawyers might be hoping for a 'see if we rile them up they'll act badly in response and then we can claim they really are biased.' But this does not strike me as very sound.
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:19 (seven months ago) link
i guess it makes sense that the verdict of a judge would be more ... moderate?
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, October 2, 2023 1:11 PM (seven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
You mean the same judge that already ordered the entire organization potentially dissolved?
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2023 1:18 PM (five seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:20 (seven months ago) link
So delicious.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:20 (seven months ago) link
I appreciate this photo of someone is kinda realizing 'wait...I allowed this to happen and now I'm stuck here.'
https://themessenger.com/_next/image?url=https%3A%2F%2Fcms.themessenger.com%2Fwp-content%2Fuploads%2F2023%2F10%2FDonald-Trump-1701883837-1024x573.jpg&w=1920&q=75
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:21 (seven months ago) link
Also, no red tie?
― Ned Raggett, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:22 (seven months ago) link
Feelin' blue.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:25 (seven months ago) link
Missing a request for a jury trial is pretty much per se malpractice.Does that mean a likely appeal or retrial?
Does that mean a likely appeal or retrial?
Neither. It's a civil trial, not criminal, so it has no effect on the outcome (no right to effective counsel in a civil trial). But theoretically Trump might have a civil cause of action against the attorney for malpractice.
― il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:27 (seven months ago) link
This is like when Alex Jones’ lawyers sent his phone over as discovery
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:28 (seven months ago) link
xpost You mean the same judge that already ordered the entire organization potentially dissolved?― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2023 1:18 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, October 2, 2023 1:18 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
"forgetting who the defendant is in this case"
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:28 (seven months ago) link
Reportedly Trump and his kids are supposed to take the stand, but I don't see that happening.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:29 (seven months ago) link
do we actually know that the lawyer forgot to do this and that they wanted a jury trial?
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:34 (seven months ago) link
I'm honestly surprised Trump isn't representing himself.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:36 (seven months ago) link
maybe the lawyer did it on purpose
― out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:37 (seven months ago) link
I heard that he definitely wouldn't have wanted a bench trial in this case, or wouldn't have been advised to get one if was getting proper legal advise, so I guess it must have been a fuckup.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:37 (seven months ago) link
Knowing you're never gonna see a dime for it can have a real impact on the quality of one's work.
― read-only (unperson), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:39 (seven months ago) link
Maybe they're getting paid in room service credit.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:46 (seven months ago) link
so how does the strategy work exactly, where you call the judge deranged and the case a scam?
― StanM, Monday, 2 October 2023 17:49 (seven months ago) link
I'm guessing it's the "I've got rubes sending me millions of dollars and a decent shot of being President again, and anyway I'll probably die in a few years so fuck it" strategy
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 17:52 (seven months ago) link
Maybe they're getting paid in room service credit
Hamberders
― The Royal House of Hangover (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 2 October 2023 18:25 (seven months ago) link
One hundredth of a Trump NFT per billing hour
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Monday, 2 October 2023 18:31 (seven months ago) link
“This is a judge that should be disbarred. This is a judge that should be out of office. This is a judge that some people say could be charged criminally for what he’s doing. He’s interfering with an election and it’s a disgrace.”
— Donald Trump, upon leaving his civil fraud trial in New York City.
― Cow_Art, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:35 (seven months ago) link
This is Mike Judgehttps://encrypted-tbn2.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcTCf8sjG9BnhLPUca0ICaRbgzcho0Pl6rEg8ztE51L52VeIa9zg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:44 (seven months ago) link
This is Judge Reinholdhttps://www.themoviedb.org/t/p/w500/oPdJz2hSIkrj1wvOpupGoIej6IO.jpg
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:45 (seven months ago) link
so I guess contempt of court isn't a thing anymore?
― StanM, Monday, 2 October 2023 18:48 (seven months ago) link
his rants about the judge devaluing his properties are irrelevant, the figure isn't a selling price it's what the tax appraisers decide it's value is for their purposes. I don't know fuck all about law but I know a pointless, completely null defense argument when I see one.
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 19:00 (seven months ago) link
Applause to JiC
― blurry picture of mostly amorphous feelings (Hunt3r), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:52 (seven months ago) link
the figures they used were absurd but there are a lot of reasons for a gulf between taxable value and likely sale value of a property
most of which, if not nebulous and legally questionable, would mean a swift increase at reassessment
he's basically being marcel duchamp and saying, no, since I signed this urinal it's now a work of art and not the same as a toilet you buy from the supplier
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 20:53 (seven months ago) link
― Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, October 2, 2023 1:34 PM (three hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
in the article it said that youre supposed to submit a form saying whether you want a jury trial or not and they did not submit the form, however the prosecution did submit the form and asked for a bench trial, so yea seems like a oopsie
― lag∞n, Monday, 2 October 2023 20:55 (seven months ago) link
Yeah, but it doesn't work retroactively. His argument was, iirc, even if it wasn't worth a lot *then* it is *now*, but whatever value was added came *after* it was overvalued. And then there's flat-out fuckery like saying Trump Tower had three times as much space as was assessed. I believe there was some reporting that as soon as the overestimation of square footage came out, Trump Inc. stopped lying about it.
― Josh in Chicago, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:05 (seven months ago) link
always a good strategy at a bench trial - insulting the presiding judge lol
Throughout the day, defense attorneys also took aim at the judge, making testy assertions such as “I don’t think you’re an expert on accounting standards” and “you owe it to the defendants to listen to this evidence.”
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:19 (seven months ago) link
but you see, I signed next to the statement that the square footage magically tripled so I made it so
― ɥɯ ︵ (°□°) (mh), Monday, 2 October 2023 21:30 (seven months ago) link
lol... I've heard it's not even a dedicated form - It's literally a "jury trial" box that wasn't checked on another form!
― vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 2 October 2023 21:49 (seven months ago) link
A dozen innocent people plus alternates have been spared by this witless gaff
― Andy the Grasshopper, Monday, 2 October 2023 21:52 (seven months ago) link
EXCLUSIVE: Arizona prosecutors are probing Trumpworld efforts to reverse the results of the 2020 presidential election — years into Joe Biden’s presidencyhttps://t.co/v8en5nUO8b— Rolling Stone (@RollingStone) October 3, 2023
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:10 (seven months ago) link
this guy just cant catch a break
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:13 (seven months ago) link
How can he be a "threat to democracy" when there are thousands of elections all over this country every year and he only tried to steal one of them? A statistically insignificant number!
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:22 (seven months ago) link
he just wanted to steal one election, as a treat
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:24 (seven months ago) link
He tried to steal the prettiest one
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 00:27 (seven months ago) link
lol good stuff
Eric Trump says New York City is dirty.Also, Eric Trump says his father has done more to shape New York City which he describes as amazing pic.twitter.com/YNJJti1MFp— Acyn (@Acyn) October 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 02:31 (seven months ago) link
starting to grow Perot ears
― real warm grandpa (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 04:24 (seven months ago) link
I was about to post a picture of that genetically modified rat with an ear growing out of its back, but it was horrifying, even by the standards of Eric Trump.
― Josh in Chicago, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 12:07 (seven months ago) link
one’s a hideous abomination formed by unholy meddling with the natural order, the other is a genetically modified rat etc etc
― come on barbo let’s go parpo (bizarro gazzara), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:16 (seven months ago) link
Earic Trump
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:18 (seven months ago) link
jesus looking old there man
Trump shares bizarre court sketch of him sitting next to Jesus at fraud trial https://t.co/yQ70OstOy1 pic.twitter.com/4hdZ5Eq70c— New York Post (@nypost) October 3, 2023
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:21 (seven months ago) link
hey man, he packed a lotta livn' in those 33 years
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:22 (seven months ago) link
forgot to hydrate
― lag∞n, Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:23 (seven months ago) link
Jesus looking old and also sinister.
― Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 3 October 2023 16:23 (seven months ago) link