stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

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yeah backcourt defense could be an issue

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:07 (seven months ago) link

they do have a spot open

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:09 (seven months ago) link

also I'm pretty amazed at the implosion of this Suns team, nearly everyone but Booker is gone from that 2021 Finals team which seemed like it was gonna stay intact for quite a whiel

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:14 (seven months ago) link

where's jrue gonna go?

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:14 (seven months ago) link

funniest outcome would def be philadelphia

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:14 (seven months ago) link

hmm on second thought, maybe the heat would be funnier

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:19 (seven months ago) link

the jrue aspect is interesting since he has 1 year left on his deal he's theoretically tradable anywhere, but i'll be curious to see if he tries to apply pressure to get traded to a team that will extend him. will portland do right by jrue?!

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:21 (seven months ago) link

Dang! Congrats frogbs!

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:21 (seven months ago) link

lol

call all destroyer, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:25 (seven months ago) link

nearly bought tickets to the season opener before finding out the second game was like 65% cheaper lol

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:28 (seven months ago) link

Jrue for Lowry would seem to make some sense

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:40 (seven months ago) link

now thats what i call a trade

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:41 (seven months ago) link

Milwaukee didn't really give up much to get a genuine superstar level player, obviously the situation was weird for Portland but still

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:42 (seven months ago) link

yet another star confirmed to be less valuable than rudy gobert

ciderpress, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:45 (seven months ago) link

I drink to forget

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:50 (seven months ago) link

Milwaukee didn't really give up much to get a genuine superstar level player, obviously the situation was weird for Portland but still

― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, September 27, 2023 3:42 PM (three minutes ago)

the concerns that other teams had about what the end of his contract would mean for their franchise is less of a concern for the bucks, who are gonna be in the gutter in two years one way or another. the justification that ppl made for the beal-to-suns trade -- when you're already all in you might as well double down -- applies more genuinely here imo, since the bucks actually have a proven title core whereas the suns have a fake basketball team

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 19:51 (seven months ago) link

Jrue's more talented than this thread is giving him credit for - I def think the Heat go after him. But many other teams too. I mean, can imagine the Warriors trading CP3 and Kuminga for him? Doubt Portland does it but it's out there. Going to be a pretty interesting lead up to training camp next week

octobeard, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:21 (seven months ago) link

Jrue definitely has a couple good years left but if he loses a step on defense he might be kinda unplayable. I mean he shot like 25% in the playoffs with Milwaukee

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:23 (seven months ago) link

Fair, I'm def assuming the defense effort is still there, and he might not be a starter, but he's going to be flipped for at least one more first round pick or pick swap I would imagine.

octobeard, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:26 (seven months ago) link

One thing to consider - he might not opt out of his contract if he's injured. So I'd imagine Portland tries and gets rid of him ASAP, and for at minimum an expiring contract with no risk (i.e. CP3), but they'll want some cream on top: either a pick or young asset. Should be interesting to see where he goes. I would bet he's off the Blazers' roster by Sunday

octobeard, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:29 (seven months ago) link

i don't think jrue makes a lot of sense for the heat. they need more offensive juice.

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:29 (seven months ago) link

i feel like they get two protected firsts and salary filler for jrue and this trade basically ends up as the herro + three firsts + swaps deal everyone obsessed over except you get ayton instead of herro

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:31 (seven months ago) link

Also - do they keep Ayton? I guess that dude finally got what he wanted: purgatory. Now he can coast and be ignored by the media for a few years.

octobeard, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:31 (seven months ago) link

I mean how do they get two protected firsts from Jrue when he's got those issues? I'd be shocked if they get more than 1. Maybe a 1st and a 2nd.

octobeard, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:32 (seven months ago) link

real loser in all this is Mike Budenholzer, gotta hurt to miss out on this opportunity.

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:37 (seven months ago) link

this trade basically ends up as the herro + three firsts + swaps deal everyone obsessed over except you get ayton instead of herro

well except those mil picks and swaps from the late '20s could be really incredible assets. miami will always be at least semi-competitive

Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:40 (seven months ago) link

Who is playing defense on the perimeter for the Bucks?

Holiday would fit in great on Philly. I am wondering if they could route Harden somehow in order to make that happen.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:45 (seven months ago) link

holiday to philly, cp3 to portland where he gets bought out, harden to dubs what could go wrong

Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:47 (seven months ago) link

Sign me up.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:49 (seven months ago) link

maybe this is the year all the "wouldn't it be cool if..." trades actually happen. I mean we're off to a good start

frogbs, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:50 (seven months ago) link

lets do this

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:52 (seven months ago) link

trades baby

Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:54 (seven months ago) link

well except those mil picks and swaps from the late '20s could be really incredible assets. miami will always be at least semi-competitive

― Clay, Wednesday, September 27, 2023 4:40 PM (ten minutes ago)

yeah maybe. maybe not. pat riley is gonna be 84 in 2029. i think if someone did a data based analysis on the potential value of heat vs bucks picks in 28-29-30 the answer would be that they project to have roughly the same amount of value

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 20:55 (seven months ago) link

honestly from a pure basketball spectacle standpoint would love to somehow get dame on the giannis bucks

― Clay, Wednesday, September 13, 2023 2:20 PM (two weeks ago) bookmarkflaglink

lol

Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 21:02 (seven months ago) link

from a pure spectacle standpoint i would love to become suddenly wealthy

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 21:04 (seven months ago) link

Super EXCITED for my next chapter. @Suns ☀️☀️💪🏻 pic.twitter.com/H6mLmAgXKg

— Jusuf Nurkić 🇧🇦 (@bosnianbeast27) September 27, 2023

ok fuck the suns for real now

k3vin k., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 21:17 (seven months ago) link

blazer FO is probably thinking 'maybe if ayton gets away from PHX we can fix him', which is almost always a delusion. it's not like the suns haven't been giving him plenty of minutes to show off his game skills. you can see exactly what you're getting with him. dame playing w/ giannis shld be interesting as heck.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:04 (seven months ago) link

i wonder if theyre even that into him or he just fit into the deal good

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:06 (seven months ago) link

he gives them a young big guy who balances out their roster, i think it makes sense for them in a very unexciting way. maybe cronin is big on him idk but he fits their roster well. it's only when the conversation is held on the grounds of whether the blazers got a justifiable return for a player of dame's caliber where you're kinda like :-/ ... but that was always gonna be the case, this is just a different flavor of :-/ than we thought

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:10 (seven months ago) link

yeah hes fine and its not like theyre worried about him showing up in the playoffs

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:14 (seven months ago) link

Book and KD went to the Bahamas earlier this summer and worked out together without Ayton. There was no way the Suns were going into training camp with him still on the roster

— sreekar (@sreekyshooter) September 27, 2023

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:27 (seven months ago) link

what a horrible timeline for the guy you took number 1 over luka, lord

J0rdan S., Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:31 (seven months ago) link

ayton will put up better numbers for sure. but you just cant teach a guy to care beyond his capacity to care.

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:33 (seven months ago) link

they just need to put him on one of those screen time apps

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:36 (seven months ago) link

yeah blazers could use a young big with some upside, and it’s easy to tell yourself it’ll turn around somewhere new. dumping nurk’s deal is a plus. taking a flyer on a guy who went 18 and 11 last year isn’t the worst idea.

Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:42 (seven months ago) link

The Phoenix Suns got a lot better and a much deeper roster with Jusuf Nurkic, Grayson Allen, Nassir Little and Keon Johnson. The Lakers are the best in the West followed by Phoenix and Denver behind them.

— Earvin Magic Johnson (@MagicJohnson) September 27, 2023


lol nuggets third

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:46 (seven months ago) link

did the suns really get a lot better going from ayton to nurk, adding grayson allen, and two guys have never moved a needle

Clay, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:51 (seven months ago) link

rare miss from magic

lag∞n, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:52 (seven months ago) link

i am pumped to watch this suns team, such a strange roster construction

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 September 2023 22:54 (seven months ago) link


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