Sufjan Stevens’ Carrie & Lowell

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What to know about Sufjan Stevens’s Guillain-Barré syndrome diagnosis

https://www.washingtonpost.com/wellness/2023/09/20/sufjan-stevens-guillain-barre-syndrome/

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 21 September 2023 01:39 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, his statement was pretty understated considering he says it may take him up to a year before he can walk again xp

groovypanda, Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:29 (seven months ago) link

ok first track on javelin totally delivers

ufo, Thursday, 5 October 2023 07:06 (six months ago) link

great album, definitely a 'return to form', feels like his entire career all mixed together. idk if anything here is quite up with the best he's ever done and it isn't emotionally devastating in the way that c&l is or as directly moving as i find age of adz, but "shit talk" is pretty wonderful and "goodbye evergreen" feels like what the ascension was reaching for but didn't quite achieve. the pre-release tracks that felt a bit by-numbers work much better in the context of the album even though i'm pretty familiar with his bag of tricks on those - some of the others are a bit bolder or cover new combinations of old ideas, so the more familiar tracks fit in nicely.

also feels like a continuation of the c&l tour (very welcome!) with the lush acoustic arrangements that often slowly morph into something more electronic. just unfortunately lacking in wild keyboard solos

ufo, Thursday, 5 October 2023 11:36 (six months ago) link

yeah i think this is probably second only to adz in his discography, a total triumph

ufo, Friday, 6 October 2023 09:09 (six months ago) link

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I have been carrying around an indescribable grief since this happened, and a feeling of inability to “talk about it”, out of respect for Sufjan’s privacy. I’d known Evans for fifteen years and it cannot be understated as to what a brilliant friend he was, just the greatest man I’ve ever known. All the songs I’ve heard from Javelin have had this added weight with the knowledge of this and I feel enormous relief that Sufjan has elected to mention it publicly. RIP Evans I love you

(the poster formerly known as Twitter) (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 6 October 2023 18:07 (six months ago) link

absolutely heartbreaking

Murgatroid, Friday, 6 October 2023 18:10 (six months ago) link

truly gutting. the album is beautiful. sorry for your loss, fgti

is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 6 October 2023 18:56 (six months ago) link

oh damn, he's had an incredibly rough year.

sorry for your loss fgti

ufo, Friday, 6 October 2023 23:35 (six months ago) link

that's dreadful, so much loss

assert (matttkkkk), Friday, 6 October 2023 23:59 (six months ago) link

the rough trade version has bonus disc with 5 previously unreleased songs that all appear to be from the c&l sessions, from when he was trying to make an oregon album

ufo, Saturday, 7 October 2023 01:59 (six months ago) link

Absolutely beautiful album and yes, it seems to reference various moments from his discography, but sound- and arrangement-wise it reminds me of the All Delighted People EP and the second set of Christmas songs the most. And ufo's comparison to the C&L live versions is spot on, too.

"Will Anybody Ever Love Me", "Shit Talk" and "Goodbye Evergreen" keep turning me into a sobbing mess during my commute, especially now that he has shared the heartbreaking circumstances surrounding the record.

ˈʌglɪɪst preɪ, Wednesday, 11 October 2023 18:28 (six months ago) link

i've been going back to the ascension a bit now and it's frustrating because it feels very close to being very good but just doesn't quite get there. the main problem is just it's too long! he manages to get a fair bit of variety out of a limited set of synths & drum machines but illinois & age of adz could get away with being 80 minutes long by having maximalist sound palettes bursting with ideas which the ascension just doesn't have enough to sustain interest for that long. the songs don't consistently hit the same highs he usually does (though "make me an offer i cannot refuse" and "tell me you love me" are top tier), but the only real dud is "video game" having a really underwritten chorus (it would have been so good with a proper chorus there but no!).

he kept talking about rhythm nation as a key influence in interviews and i finally do hear that in the drum programming, but the issue is that the drums here don't hit anywhere near as hard, so it doesn't give the same feeling at all. i wish he had gone for hard hitting new jack swing drums, that would have been really cool. i feel a bit better about the lyrics now than i did 3 years ago but attempting to wring depth out of cliche still isn't really playing to his strengths.

if it had been cut down to the following i think it would have been a very good album even though it still wouldn't be his best:

make me an offer i cannot refuse
run away with me
tell me you love me
die happy
ativan
landslide
gilgamesh
sugar
the ascension
america

javelin though is just astounding, i would say that pretty much all of it is up with his very best. nearly every track has a brilliant shift comparable to a more subtle version of the moment when the keyboards appear in "should have known better". i'm happy to say all sorts of hyperbolic things like calling him the best musician of the last 20+ years now

ufo, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 14:00 (six months ago) link

two months pass...

i'm not sold on the whole album at all, not so much my thing

but

'goodbye evergreen' is sensational

imago, Sunday, 24 December 2023 18:30 (four months ago) link

that's about what i expected

ufo, Sunday, 24 December 2023 20:05 (four months ago) link

lol i am nothing if not predictable

might be in my top 5 songs of the year, it's up there

imago, Sunday, 24 December 2023 20:15 (four months ago) link

i also liked the second track, you were right, i am Adz-pilled but beyond that find it hard to connect. damaged and spoilt by hypergarbage

imago, Sunday, 24 December 2023 20:24 (four months ago) link

devastated anew by this record today. i can't imagine listening to it while actually grieving though, yeesh. i'm enough of a puddle as it is.

kissinger on my list (voodoo chili), Friday, 29 December 2023 20:26 (three months ago) link

I haven't listened to anything from him since "Adz," and I can't really remember that one, but my wife was playing him today and it was all more recent stuff I was unfamiliar with and it was all so pretty/sad. I really need to catch up. Also didn't realize/notice he hadn't toured in, like, 6 years? More?

Josh in Chicago, Saturday, 6 January 2024 23:41 (three months ago) link

his last solo tour was for carrie & lowell in 2015/16, but he did play a few shows for planetarium in 2017. it's been a while, yeah. his next album (the ascension) came out mid-pandemic so it wasn't at all surprising he didn't tour that, and now he's recovering from a very serious illness that means there's no possibility of touring the new album.

hopefully he will tour again when he's recovered though, the show i saw last tour was one of the best i've ever seen

ufo, Saturday, 6 January 2024 23:57 (three months ago) link


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