Ice-T was from Jersey.
― read-only (unperson), Sunday, 17 September 2023 15:57 (eight months ago) link
My theory is they saw folks clowning on the original review (when that was happening months back), and decided to commission a new one. The “oversight” line is appropriately ambiguous. But who knows!
― my brain goes aahhhh (morrisp), Sunday, 17 September 2023 17:49 (eight months ago) link
They should accidentally overlook the Bobby Digital in Stereo review
― omar little, Sunday, 17 September 2023 18:03 (eight months ago) link
lol this review, what year does this guy think it is?
This is exactly the sort of album you gift a middle-age, mid-divorce dad who’s flailing for direction as he speeds around town in his post-split sports car, cranking the Stones’ anti-romance rants....”
You can picture Dad pounding his hand against the steering wheel in time to “Bite My Head Off,” four minutes of punk so patrician that it takes a blown-out bass solo by Sir Paul McCartney for it to sound remotely tough. During “Driving Me Too Hard,” Jagger threatens to escape to Morocco or the corner bar, then concocts neologisms for crying, an emotionally unavailable man too afraid of these things called feelings to name them. What’s more, it sounds like the Eagles trying to be bland.
number one, the middle aged dad in question in 2023 would want like i dunno a new Deftones record or something...
the guy he's talking about probably would be touched you got him the CD when you visited him in his semi assisted living senior apartment complex with the grandkids
either way like work out your issues with your dad dude
but i dunno i guess writers have like 5-10 more years of boomer bashing left let em enjoy it while it lasts
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 20 October 2023 13:31 (seven months ago) link
maybe it's just a way for millennials to feel young again but it feels meaner than it used to
― Left, Friday, 20 October 2023 13:51 (seven months ago) link
if I was going through a divorce and feeling genuinely lost in life I'd probably be driving around listening to Cake's Prolonging the Magic or something
― frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 13:53 (seven months ago) link
when he said awww yeah alll right oh no I really felt that
― frogbs, Friday, 20 October 2023 13:54 (seven months ago) link
Just wait until they're in their 70s and Radiohead puts out a new album
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 20 October 2023 13:54 (seven months ago) link
I am rather moved that they full-on dismissed this thing.
― hat trick of trashiness (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 20 October 2023 13:58 (seven months ago) link
I think the album is middling but I swear several negative/negative-leaning P4k reviews from recent times lean into the tepid 'music for...' trap (am I imagining that?) so the Dad stuff made me roll my eyes.
Still, the press this album has received elsewhere does make the review quite refreshing.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 20 October 2023 13:59 (seven months ago) link
McCormick's Telegraph review (no I haven't read it I've read the blurb on Metacritic) has convinced me he approaches everything as a joke.
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 20 October 2023 14:01 (seven months ago) link
Middle aged dads are comforted by old-school snarky pitchfork reviews, not stones albums.
― enochroot, Friday, 20 October 2023 14:08 (seven months ago) link
The one thing I might’ve liked to see in the review that we didn’t: thoughts on Watts’ drumming.
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:11 (seven months ago) link
I am 48, so totally middle-aged, but whenever I go to some legacy boomer band show, I still feel like one of the younger ones, lol
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 20 October 2023 14:15 (seven months ago) link
OTM
― strawberry ice cream, one scoop or two (morrisp), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:28 (seven months ago) link
(Whoops… that was meant for the post that revived this thread. The others hadn’t loaded yet)
― strawberry ice cream, one scoop or two (morrisp), Friday, 20 October 2023 14:29 (seven months ago) link
But in North America, The Masterplan was a crucial act of fan service. In the ’90s, the stateside singles market had been all but snuffed out by a music industry that had conditioned consumers to pay $23.99 for a full album to get the one or two songs they liked.
This is from the recent Oasis review and the $24 statement is confusing me.
― Western® with Bacon Flavor, Friday, 3 November 2023 05:42 (six months ago) link
Think I figured that one out. The writer appears to be Canadian. The exchange rate in 1998 was about 1 USD = 1.50 CAD. So $24 was probably the price in Canada for a $16 CD in the US. He writes "stateside" but forgets that the price he remembers was not the price in the States.
― jaymc, Friday, 3 November 2023 13:03 (six months ago) link
lol yes I have had some bewildering conversations in Canada about CD prices (e.g., a friend, with surprising vehemence: "CDs are a scam!"). It took me a while to figure out that in addition to the exchange rate, CDs were simply noticeably more expensive up here than in the US
― rob, Friday, 3 November 2023 13:05 (six months ago) link
the provinceside singles market
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2023 14:37 (six months ago) link
Even as a Canadian, I don't remember CDs being that expensive in 1998. I remember them being at least 3 dollars cheaper. And that was without getting them on sale or buying them from some place like Zellers or Wal-Mart.
― MarkoP, Friday, 3 November 2023 14:50 (six months ago) link
I wasted so much money at Music World before finding better stores.
― jmm, Friday, 3 November 2023 14:55 (six months ago) link
At a certain point CDs within the time period of "I like the singles so I'm getting the album" hit $17.99 maybe $18.99 price points iirc. But maybe the writer was thinking of a deluxe edition!
― Evan, Friday, 3 November 2023 14:57 (six months ago) link
working in music retail for many years in a us city of about 250,0000, the absolute highest price that i remember for a single disc new release was $21.39 after tax.
and that was in the early 2000s.
i, too, am wondering where this person was buying cds in 1997. i hope they got in on that class action lawsuit that repaid people who got ripped off by cd prices.
― "another slice of death, please." (Austin), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:09 (six months ago) link
$17.99 maybe $18.99 price points iirc
The popular new releases lining the front of the store, yeah. Back in the racks at Music World most albums were like $23.98 + tax.
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:15 (six months ago) link
19% sales tax for me lol
― maf you one two (maffew12), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:18 (six months ago) link
Did Pitchfork accidentally publish that Hotline TNT review and Best New Music a few days early? Because it's no longer there now.
― MarkoP, Friday, 3 November 2023 16:22 (six months ago) link
it's still up at the direct link: https://pitchfork.com/reviews/albums/hotline-tnt-cartwheel/
― is he disgruntled adrian? (voodoo chili), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:34 (six months ago) link
It's mentioned here, but it's not in the Reviews section or the band's own aggregate page.
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:38 (six months ago) link
huh, I still see it on the main page when I checked now
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:39 (six months ago) link
Oh wait sorry it is there
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:40 (six months ago) link
Dude, it wasn't on the homepage or the Reviews page a minute ago, I swear
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:41 (six months ago) link
(Oasis was the big/featured review)
I just checked not long ago and it was gone
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:41 (six months ago) link
You’re not imagining things
― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:42 (six months ago) link
What's with the weird score format though:
Rating: 8.4/10 (info link that goes nowhere)
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:42 (six months ago) link
Lol Pitchfork just because I thought it was confusing doesn’t mean the review should be taken down. https://t.co/YDzqypEXpk— Travis Shosa (@tsdenizen) November 3, 2023
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:44 (six months ago) link
The Oasis review has that same new score format (but not the others on the homepage)
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:46 (six months ago) link
I dunno, I still see the Hotline TNT review there myself as the featured review. Does have that weird score format though.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:55 (six months ago) link
However, I still see the "old" score format for Oasis. Weird.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 November 2023 16:56 (six months ago) link
I can't handle this rollercoaster of emotion
― Evan, Friday, 3 November 2023 17:05 (six months ago) link
FFS, they just put up the "Vote Now for Your Favorite Albums and Songs of 2023" poll... I hate how anything released after Nov. 15 will have to be shunted to the 2024 poll (and likely forgotten by Nov. 2024).
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:06 (six months ago) link
("Feel like I complain about this earlier every year," lol)
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:07 (six months ago) link
Literally the day after Halloween now, it's ridiculous! My family still believes in waiting until after Thanksgiving
― Evan, Friday, 3 November 2023 17:11 (six months ago) link
Gave me son a stern talking to at dinner about this very thing. I don't want to even hear about your favorite albums of the year until after we clean the plates on Thanksgiving.
― Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:20 (six months ago) link
"You guys weren't here for Beyonce in 2013, or Black Messiah in 2014. They gave album of the year to Run the Jewels! It was a catastrophe!"
― Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:36 (six months ago) link
What new score format is this? Nothing seems out of the ordinary looking at either Oasis or TNT
― you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 3 November 2023 17:41 (six months ago) link
Both seem to have reverted back now...
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:42 (six months ago) link
If you weren't there on Friday, November 3, 2023 btw 9:42 and 9:46 AM, you'll never know what it was like, man...
― More skin on 'Love Boat' (morrisp), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:43 (six months ago) link
These are always some of the most whogivesashit.jpg obsessions this thread has
― The SoyBoy West Coast (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 3 November 2023 17:45 (six months ago) link