scott's occasional swinging old jazz thread (moldy figs to 1980)

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i see its on my discogs wantlist. probably for richard davis. though i like all those guys. my dad loves harold mabern. he used to take me to see harold and harold's boyhood pal george coleman a lot when i was a kid. my dad worships george coleman.

scott seward, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 20:52 (seven months ago) link

George Coleman is still going strong! Amazing.

https://www.instagram.com/p/ClJmhumJPNB/

50 Favorite Jordans (Jordan), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 20:59 (seven months ago) link

thanks for the DY link. love this line from the bandcamp copy:

Despite his talent, he had one album he recorded as a lead which was released on mainstream Records.

ouch!

budo jeru, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 22:19 (seven months ago) link

four weeks pass...

Obsessed with Jakob Bro's records with Lee Konitz...Balladeering (w/Bill Frisell and Paul Motian), Time (different bassist and no drums), and December Song (Craig Taborn on piano). Incredible autumn music.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Thursday, 12 October 2023 16:00 (six months ago) link

Best jazz vocal I've heard in a while---lots of folks have the chops and spirit, but there's a world in here, for now:
Kate Kortum - Dreamsville

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=btQNuSQZxWM

dow, Sunday, 15 October 2023 17:31 (six months ago) link

Jakob Bro is indeed fantastic, have had the pleasure of seeing him quite a few times, once with Lee Konitz!

his first three ECM albums also great

did you catch Music for Black Pigeons? wonderful footage

corrs unplugged, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 11:28 (six months ago) link

Pulling up Michael Brecker - Time Is Of the Essence this morning. I'm not a huge Brecker fan but this is sounding great...the drum chair is either Elvin (!), "Tain" Watts, or Bill Stewart and it's a good exercise in comparison (they all sound amazing). Larry Goldings on organ, no bass player.

And "good Metheny records" is a topic that's come up on a few threads recently, and this might be one of the best. His solo on "Half Past Late" is ridiculous.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 14:52 (six months ago) link

I never really think about The Brecker Brothers as music for me, lumping them in with stuff like The Yellowjackets, but I heard this cut on the radio the other night that was beefy enough and had enough twists for me to take notice. Guitarist is great, Barry Finnerty, who I don't know but research shows me has played on a ton of records.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GUcPJ8Wop5o

Large, Complex, Detailed but Irrefutable POST (Dan Peterson), Tuesday, 24 October 2023 17:20 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

Is 'Work Song' on Live in Tokyo widely accepted as the definitive version? If not, it should be, killer band and much better than the studio version.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q88M5gwgGPI

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 26 February 2024 19:40 (two months ago) link

can't listen now but will listen later. such a great lineup. i've been so high on nat adderley records for awhile now. he made so much good stuff and i kinda didn't pay attention to them. better late than never. cannonball rules so hard. what a mind.

scott seward, Monday, 26 February 2024 20:08 (two months ago) link

That's a great album. I just got two live Cannonball albums that will be coming out on Record Store Day — one is from 1969, with almost that same lineup, and the other is from 1972, when George Duke was in the band.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 26 February 2024 20:18 (two months ago) link

Forgot to mention that I heard the Tokyo recording on some cd comp I had in high school (maybe a Rhino Records thing? I remember a yellow cover). I've never had the full set but it was a great cd-era discovery.

Would love to hear those RSD records.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 26 February 2024 21:14 (two months ago) link

you can read every issue of nat hentoff's jazz review here. i know i did. i like that he had artists write reviews. one of these days i will find a complete run in real life. i could buy them one at a time when they pop up on ebay but i always forget about ebay.

https://www.jazzstudiesonline.org/content/jazz-review

scott seward, Tuesday, 27 February 2024 04:47 (two months ago) link

Wow, thank you, that's fascinating. The first one I clicked on (Feb '59) has a pre-Coltrane article about Elvin Jones, written by a European sax was playing with him in J.J. Johnson's group, that's comes very close to speculatively describing the invention of the Coltrane Quartet. Or rather, it correctly recognizes everything Elvin is already doing (the power, flowing across the bar lines without giving the soloist easy signposts) but that eventually he'll probably have to simplify his style.

"...I have often had the same trouble with Elvin...the tension would build to a point where I had trouble finishing my choruses, and I would begin trembling with internal excitement, but completely unable to tell where we were any longer...that is obviously a situation to be avoided."

...until you find a group other musicians who always know where 1 is and can maintain the tension indefinitely. Now I wanna listen to a bunch of early Elvin.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 17:36 (two months ago) link

oh wow the very first issue has the (in)famous Gunther Schuller article about Sonny Rollins.

B. Amato (Boring, Maryland), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 17:46 (two months ago) link

The reviews are hilarious too:

Relaxin' (with the Miles Davis Quintet) and Musings neither disappoint nor do they set the world on fire. Both call for no excess wordage on the part of a reviewer; they should be enjoyed and not analytically picked apart. I enjoyed them. —Mimi Clar

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 17:47 (two months ago) link

His (Coltrane's) solo on Giant Steps particularly shows a rhythmic stiffness and melodic tameness. He does not construct any real line with the arpeggios.

--H.A. Woodfin

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Tuesday, 27 February 2024 18:00 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

I didn't know this album -- These Are My Roots: Clifford Jordan Plays Leadbelly. It's sick, Richard Davis is going hard (and really keeping tracks like Goodnight Irene from being too straight), the late Tootie Heath on drums & tambourine, Cedar Walton, and amazing vocals by Sandra Douglas on a couple tracks.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 8 April 2024 22:15 (two weeks ago) link

Damn, this version of Black Girl (aka Where Did You Sleep Last Night)

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Monday, 8 April 2024 22:20 (two weeks ago) link

Way better than the title suggests, great album

Brad C., Tuesday, 9 April 2024 23:30 (two weeks ago) link

the title makes it sound awesome in my opinion! lol. checking it out now

budo jeru, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 18:57 (two weeks ago) link

but then i have a lot of time for Clifford Jordan

budo jeru, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 19:00 (two weeks ago) link

I can't find anything about Sandra Douglas besides this album, which she steals.

Jordan s/t (Jordan), Wednesday, 10 April 2024 19:04 (two weeks ago) link

it seems like you're not the first one to wonder

budo jeru, Wednesday, 10 April 2024 23:36 (two weeks ago) link

i've pulled this album out more than once this year. pepper adams and curtis fuller together is such a beautiful pairing. i love them both.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HyQVtVH-dYQ

scott seward, Thursday, 11 April 2024 01:30 (two weeks ago) link

Damn, this version of Black Girl (aka Where Did You Sleep Last Night)

Damn indeed so good

that's not my post, Thursday, 11 April 2024 03:06 (two weeks ago) link

that Clifford Jordan record got me wondering what other jazz albums of the era had folk revival themes ... this one, "Jazz Impressions of Folk Music," is not terrible, but sounds more like "The Harold Land Quintet Plays The Kingston Trio":

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UvV73nA1-gg

both albums have versions of "Take This Hammer" and Land's really suffers by comparison ... "Kisses Sweeter than Wine" and lol "On Top of Old Smokey" sound better, but "Hava Nagila" sent me running to Dick Dale

fairly undistinguished and uninspired bop, but like every 1963 jazz album I've ever heard, beautifully played and recorded

Brad C., Thursday, 11 April 2024 19:17 (two weeks ago) link


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