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lol I did the same thing, then promptly reloaded a saved game and did it the right way

the new drip king (DJP), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:23 (eight months ago) link

I also flung the gnome. That shit killed me

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:59 (eight months ago) link

I did not reload... sorry mr. gnome

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 22:00 (eight months ago) link

Grrrr.. well this game has plummeted in my estimation since tonight I've encountered one of the most irritating, broken areas of any game I've ever encountered.

The stupid cave of traps before you meet the Hag. First off, my characters almost always fail to perceive the traps, so I'm fucked from the start. Sometimes on loading I don't see anything, other times there's areas of noxious gas everywhere. If I jump over them, usually only three of my characters make it intact. More often than not, one of my characters will just not bother jumping and just hang back, or they'll walk straight into the mist before making the jump. If I do spot the traps (which is hardly ever) and try to disable them, they explode and kill half my party and I can't revive them because they're literally lying in magma so as soon as I revive them they die again. I did see a hint flash up (all too quickly, it disappeared before I could read it properly) about putting something heavy on the "vents". Trouble is, I can't see anything that would look like a vent. If I try to put a stone (as was suggested when I finally caved and Googled a solution), on the flower type things, nothing happens other than I walk into the mist. I read somewhere that you can use a potion of feather falling and just jump all the way down, which is fair enough but seems like a fudge and it's not intuitive to do this.I finally managed to fudge myself and my other characters down there, with a massive amount of healing. Then the Hag herself made mincemeat of me. It's the stupid traps that annoy me more though. Who decided that this would be a good idea to have in the game? Invisible traps that explode when you try to diffuse them or sneak past? I dunno.. I'm all het up now

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:44 (eight months ago) link

I'm sure there's a simple trick with this idiotic area, but if there is, it doesn't seem intuitive or the kind of thing that's designed for a game like this

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 01:46 (eight months ago) link

Do you have astarion with you? The rogues specialty is disarming traps. I know the section you’re talking about, mildly annoying but it wasn’t that bad for me to get through. My pet peeve with the game is when you jump over something, only to relies 5 minutes later that one of your party memebers decided not to jump and now you have to do it all manually again. If this was a one or two time thing, whatever, but it happens every second jump I do I swear! And it’s not that they can’t make the jump, they can! But the computer just seems to decide one random character doesn’t want to jump every time. Kills me

H.P, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 03:23 (eight months ago) link

traps are a huge pain in the ass, even with astarion because unlike the previous games finding traps seems to be a passive thing that anyone might "perceive" except they often don't, at this point I just get super nervous whenever a dice roll fails while I'm bumbling around

also the first time I failed to disarm a trap and then my one set of tools broke led to me hoarding everything just in case, I have so many shovels, but so far nothing else has busted during use

only just realized that jumping is pretty important, seems like some characters can make jumps that others can't?

Florin Cuchares, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 03:50 (eight months ago) link

Yeah stronger characters can jump farther.

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 03:56 (eight months ago) link

when you jump over something, only to relies 5 minutes later that one of your party memebers decided not to jump and now you have to do it all manually again

Yes, this was part of why I was getting frustrated. And when I switch to that character, my other characters' AI decides it's time to JUMP BACK to the ledge they just jumped from and rejoin the straggler, often jumping INTO the poison. Yes, yes, I know I can split my group up, but why it happens in the first place is a mystery.
It's not always with jumps either. I was fairly deep into that area when I realised Shadowheart was still just hanging out in the swamp on her own and the AI had just dosed off

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 08:37 (eight months ago) link

Eldritch Knight with expeditious retreat (actually for charging people) enhance leap and misty step is a fun time, you can just whizz round all over the place using your two attacks and shove to squish casters and ranged enemies

I wish there was a good-aligned rogue companion. User salsa shark is providing v effective rogue services with a custom character in our main playthrough, but in my other solo save as an extremely morally inflexible dwarf who splats anything remotely evil without negotiation, its a bit annoying not having an easy way to disarm traps and pick locks unless you want to make nice with someone who is obviously hiding in plain sight as a privately educated English person . I know you can respec people but don't want to bust any origin characters' storylines

They should have also had a bigger variety of species and appearances in the companions imo, I know horny nerds want to have relations with elf supermodels on the computer, but there are far too many elves

hiroyoshi tins in (Sgt. Biscuits), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 08:52 (eight months ago) link

H.P., I did have Astarion with me. He wasn't very good at perceiving or disabling traps.

Or maybe it's me? I can't seem to see the traps myself - I don't know what they look like in order to do something about them. Nor these vents that get mentioned for that matter - it's either a sea of gas or just a normal-looking walkway. So I'm about as clueless as the characters.

Sometimes when I walk in the room after loading, I can see noxious gas. Other times it's not there, but if I walk into the rooom everything explodes and everyone pretty much dies. If my characters do perceive the trap, I'm not sure what to do next. If I ask my character to disarm it, he'll either walk straight into the fumes or the trap explodes anyway.

I've watched guides on YouTube on how to do this, but there seems to be more happening in the environment (there are yellow outlines on the ground that weren't showing for me).

I'm sure it's trying to teach me stuff about splitting my group up, jumping, throwing and covering these elusive vents etc...

But it feels very convoluted and fiddly, largely based on trial-and-error, and the sort of thing that would only work in an action RPG than one where you have to manipulate four characters at once.

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 09:06 (eight months ago) link

Lol, I'm very grumpy due to no sleep and too much BG3

Here are my exploits in this area. I just don't get it

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WEamEBXYrsA

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 10:51 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5I1qPd5dj1Q

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 10:52 (eight months ago) link

Huh. So I just died and reloaded my game and now I can see the poison clouds whereas I couldn't before. There is no logic here

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 11:34 (eight months ago) link

Haha okay I've done some digging and this might well be a bug. Frustrating though

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 12:38 (eight months ago) link

Full Mac version September 21st. I've put in 47 hours so far in Early Access, so all in Act 1 on characters I won't be able to bring over to the full version. I *think* I've been everywhere.

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Wednesday, 13 September 2023 18:59 (eight months ago) link

You know what's especially great about those game? It's a new gen game that doesn't make me feel lonely. So many games out there set you as a solitary loner in a desolate, unforgiving world. I switch this on and it's like "Yay, all my friends!"

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Thursday, 14 September 2023 12:42 (eight months ago) link

I found the baby owlbear and invited it to my camp and convinced the goblin lady to let it go and it ran away AND NEVER SHOWED UP AT CAMP and I am absolutely crushed, do I just restart the whole game now or what

Florin Cuchares, Thursday, 14 September 2023 15:51 (eight months ago) link

You might need to give it another long rest

salsa shark, Thursday, 14 September 2023 20:44 (eight months ago) link

I started this game! I find it so overwhelming, my god. I haven’t played party-based RPGs since Ultima, in my teens. Keeping everyone outfitted and dressed is such a job!!

I thought I was cruising through, and assembled a party of four, got them to level 2, but then my cleric fell through a pit into “the crypt” at a time when I was down to one healing potion and all my characters needed a rest… and now couldn’t, because the party was separated

And the first dungeon battle was so, so challenging for me. I had to text a friend for help. I only won by setting the difficulty on easy, enticing the ragey dude into the candle room and finishing him off with the door closed

Sometime later I realized that I have an inventory full of items I can use. This game is a lot of information

my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 15 September 2023 03:08 (eight months ago) link

True, I find the whole inventorising UI fairly hard to manage. Wish there were a faster way for me to quick-find certain items in the PS5 version, like marking them as faves or something.

Plus I swear some objects I know I have don't show up among the myriad odds and ends I seem to have collected. The filters are either bugged or just not very reliable. I want to filter all my junk items so I can add them to Wares, but there's no satisfactory way to do this. And just trying to find my healing potions in a hurry can be a tricky one. Witcher 3 had a similar system, but it felt a lot easier to manage than this.

FGTI, I think exactly the same thing happened to me last night - I was fighting enemies on one floor of a dungeon and one of my characters got pushed down to the crypty basement. Admittedly I was level 4 by then, but it's still a really tough battle so you must have struggled!

Think I'm doing this all in the wrong intended order though as I already did a bunch of other stuff (that was also pretty challenging). I didn't meet Karlach till quite late on and it took me AGES to work out how to get to the Goblin camp and the North East part of the map - must have just missed the turning.

Regarding romances:
I haven't really used Lae'zel much so far. But she very suddenly decided last night that she was in lust with me and didn't mince her words in propositioning me. After a bit of consideration I conceded (it's just a game, right?) but quickly found the whole experience low-key triggering in its reminiscence of past relationships that I called it off. It is JUST a game

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Friday, 15 September 2023 13:39 (eight months ago) link

FGTI, I think I still managed to do a long rest though, even though my party was split up. Was your cleric conscious? And was your party "grouped" (L2 menu on PS5)?

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Friday, 15 September 2023 13:41 (eight months ago) link

I'm in act 3 and I think that first dungeon fight that you're talking about was prob the hardest in the game for me: cramped space with a bunch of enemies with different powers, I still hadn't figured out how to control the group or use everyone in conjunction, everyone in my party was a super low level

Bongo Jongus, Friday, 15 September 2023 15:53 (eight months ago) link

I am playing The Dark Urge and it is WILD.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 15 September 2023 15:59 (eight months ago) link

I started this game! I find it so overwhelming, my god. I haven’t played party-based RPGs since Ultima, in my teens. Keeping everyone outfitted and dressed is such a job!!

I thought I was cruising through, and assembled a party of four, got them to level 2, but then my cleric fell through a pit into “the crypt” at a time when I was down to one healing potion and all my characters needed a rest… and now couldn’t, because the party was separated

And the first dungeon battle was so, so challenging for me. I had to text a friend for help. I only won by setting the difficulty on easy, enticing the ragey dude into the candle room and finishing him off with the door closed

Sometime later I realized that I have an inventory full of items I can use. This game is a lot of information

― my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Thursday, September 14, 2023 11:08 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

The combat truly is D&D so my best tip is: CHEESE, CHEESE, CHEESE. E.g., in the crypt, use the environment, run out to rest, etc.

Allen (etaeoe), Friday, 15 September 2023 16:01 (eight months ago) link

https://acoup.blog/2023/09/15/collections-the-gap-in-the-armor-of-baldurs-gate-and-5e/

If you realllly want to nerd out about armor (also a good history blog in general.)

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Friday, 15 September 2023 19:03 (eight months ago) link

Fascinating article!

When I saw the link I thought "the gap" they were referring to was the clothing chain, as in "fall into the"

my best wishes to all (flamboyant goon tie included), Friday, 15 September 2023 20:38 (eight months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obAPAq4BnjE

The Banshees of Ed Sheeran (Leee), Saturday, 16 September 2023 02:10 (eight months ago) link

The prison level in Act 2 is irritating as hell. Honestly Act 2 in general kinda sucks so far. Like they just stacked annoying things on top of each other.

circa1916, Saturday, 16 September 2023 03:26 (eight months ago) link

update on my precious baby owlbear it finally found my camp after several long rests, then I tried to feed it and astarion scared it off ugh now I am definitely not going to have sex with that guy

also regarding romances in general
after suffering through a really awkward make out sesh with shadowheart and an excruciating "love scene" with laezel I think videogame romance is not for me, is this stuff pretty common in gaming these days?

this is the first new game I've played in 20 odd years, back in my day yadda yadda anyways I get that there are lots of horndogs in the world but yikes, yikes everybody, was hoping at least for like a special "power of love" cantrip where we can heal/revive each other or something

Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 16 September 2023 05:25 (eight months ago) link

also yeah that first real dungeon fight kicked my ass so hard, and indeed most battles even at lvl 5 now I seem to be clearing just by the skin of my worgs teeth, what has helped enormously is summoning the invisible flying imp to scope out the scene in advance, invisible imp MVP

Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 16 September 2023 05:37 (eight months ago) link

Well I have definitely brown a few quests and killed potential party members I know that. It's all a part of it I guess

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Saturday, 16 September 2023 14:45 (eight months ago) link

*broken

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Saturday, 16 September 2023 14:52 (eight months ago) link

One of the reasons that multiple runthroughs is the norm

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Saturday, 16 September 2023 18:54 (eight months ago) link

Yup. I need to get used to the idea that you don't (and can't) do everything in the first run. I'm so Souls-pilled though that I insist on thoroughly exploring all areas before leaving them. No stone unturned

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Saturday, 16 September 2023 20:58 (eight months ago) link

Found Karlach and she is already great, except for the part where she goes HAM after the fight with the fake paladins; I barely made it out alive after my third try against them, and of course she proceeds to wreck the place and set everything on fire, which kills Astarion outright and nearly my character and Shadowheart. Eventually she calms down by accidentally killing herself.

The Banshees of Ed Sheeran (Leee), Saturday, 16 September 2023 23:13 (eight months ago) link

Who decided the Gauntlet of Shar dungeon in Act 2 was a good idea? Like cool, let’s have a labyrinthine, 4 layer dungeon with a map that will show you exactly one layer.

circa1916, Sunday, 17 September 2023 01:34 (seven months ago) link

I honestly can’t tell if my game is broken or what. I’m watching walkthroughs and none of them are matching up with what I’m seeing. Good job, Larian. Glad I put like 50 hours into this.

Also it’s cool how your PS5 directional pad randomly stops working in conversations. I’ve accidentally started fights like a dozen fights because of it.

Why is nobody mentioning how borked this game is on PS5 in reviews?

circa1916, Sunday, 17 September 2023 02:55 (seven months ago) link

Yeah all that stuff happens to me too. The dialogue thing is super annoying - I think it happens when you enter dialogue in turn-based mode, so try fiddling with that and seeing if it works.

I'm still having the thing where poison mist isn't visible.

And I'm worried that some sussur bark I spent ages looking for might have magically disappeared from my inventory. I sincerely hope not

I'm assuming this will all get patched but in the meantime it's very frustrating

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Sunday, 17 September 2023 04:35 (seven months ago) link

I’m at a point where the game is just straight broken. The only save I have is rolling a 30. But I can only roll 29 with everything maxed out. I’ve never been so furious at a video game in my life.

circa1916, Sunday, 17 September 2023 04:42 (seven months ago) link

have not encountered any bugs yet on PC, one time I "perceived" a giant clump of dirt but it wouldn't let me dig the chest up, but whatever those all seem to be little fun treats that don't matter like an extra mushroom in mario bros

Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 17 September 2023 08:49 (seven months ago) link

mostly just agree with the polygon video Leee posted above, the options and branches and completely unnecessary detours in only the first map is tremendous

Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 17 September 2023 08:55 (seven months ago) link

Yeah no bugs to report playing on PC. Careful with your inventory re: dog Latin. It might be a bug for you, but I’m kicking myself at accidentally selling a quest item amulet (I knew it was a quest item, just bulk sold some necklaces for cash). Have a stupid quest marker that is going to be there forever unless I can track the exact merchant I sold too but that’s long gone

H.P, Sunday, 17 September 2023 11:24 (seven months ago) link

Yeah no bugs to report playing on PC. Careful with your inventory re: dog Latin. It might be a bug for you, but I’m kicking myself at accidentally selling a quest item amulet (I knew it was a quest item, just bulk sold some necklaces for cash). Have a stupid quest marker that is going to be there forever unless I can track the exact merchant I sold too but that’s long gone

H.P, Sunday, 17 September 2023 11:24 (seven months ago) link

Woke up in the middle of the night stressing about party composition. Can't imagine not having a tank, a healer, a rogue and a wizard, but I don't want to be any of those, I want to be a secret fifth guy doing random fun bullshit.

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Sunday, 17 September 2023 17:11 (seven months ago) link

Turns out it wasn't a bug. Sussur Tree bark wilts in daylight

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Sunday, 17 September 2023 17:14 (seven months ago) link

So I'm at the stage where the game is asking me to get on with the next part of the quest, but there are still things like visiting the Githyanki creche I need to do. I'm not sure whether to do all that stuff first or if I'm really meant to just plough on and leave certain quests for another playthrough

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Sunday, 17 September 2023 17:16 (seven months ago) link

You can definitely leave some quests behind. I never did the Githyanki creche stuff or the mountain pass. Shit, I never even recruited Gale (I tried, but I failed the strength check to pull him out of the portal). I could have save scummed until I succeeded, but I decided just to roll with it (no pun intended). This is absolutely a game that expects you to be comfortable with not seeing everything and not succeeding at everything. I think that is really cool and I think more game devs could stand to learn from the example.

feed me with your chips (zchyrs), Sunday, 17 September 2023 20:17 (seven months ago) link

agreed, super cool game design it's almost not even tempting to roll back to a previous save, I only do it when I stumble into a battle I was in no way prepared for and get absolutely murdered or like when I found Jaheira(!) and then minutes later huge surprise fight and she along with all the harpers are dead, could have just moved along but that sucks, do over please

Florin Cuchares, Sunday, 17 September 2023 23:42 (seven months ago) link

I really need to get the obsessive "have to see everything, no stone unturned" thing out my head. I did it with Elden Ring on first playthrough which meant there wasn't much else left to explore on subsequent runs

Stomp Jomperson (dog latin), Monday, 18 September 2023 00:58 (seven months ago) link


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