why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

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With Yes on record: great. Live with Yes in 2003: wrong-sounding outlier who just didn’t gel with the rest of the Topgraphic-era line-up.

mike t-diva, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:40 (eight months ago) link

with yes on record and on-stage in all eras: didn't gel and also sucked

mark s, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:52 (eight months ago) link

In 1970, days out of the Guess Who, Randy Bachman met an "orchestrator from Britain" who had done some arrangement work on an album by the Nice (presumably Joseph Eger). He had heard Bachman's instrumental solo album Axe and offered to put in a good word with Emerson, who was looking for a guitarist for his new group. Bachman "didn't want to join another band" at that point and so declined, but Emerson may never have known about this offer.
Also I don't believe he had even recorded a single lead vocal by that point, so I doubt he would have wound up singing.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 7 September 2023 17:57 (eight months ago) link

me requesting songs at prog night yesterday

https://media.tenor.com/AhE2BNYK_8YAAAAC/yes-danielbryan.gif

frogbs, Friday, 8 September 2023 14:05 (eight months ago) link

four weeks pass...

i had no idea this had ever been condensed and released as a single

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L5Kqt0XznuI

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 6 October 2023 19:34 (seven months ago) link

holy shit I need that, it has a GoD edit on the A-side

https://www.discogs.com/release/3884063-Yes-Soon-from-The-Gates-Of-Delirium

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Friday, 6 October 2023 20:10 (seven months ago) link

I can understand sometimes only wanting to hear "Soon", but who would want it to fade in the middle of the guitar solo? Before that epochal E♭ min 6 to C 7 closing cadence?!?

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 6 October 2023 20:22 (seven months ago) link

speaking of, this looks kind of interesting:

https://www.discogs.com/release/28552702-Yes-Yessingles

I don't think I've actually heard any of the 'single' versions, are they just straight edits? sounds like it might be pretty awkward but I'm intrigued nevertheless

frogbs, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 15:31 (seven months ago) link

A wonderful single ruined by a lousy shortened edit. Roundabout is a gutted nightmare, being reduced from its original 8:36 length to 3:27, and suffering from excessive cutting-down, the sudden jump cut from the first chorus to the organ solo is especially jarring. Long Distance Runaround on the other hand isn't too horrible of an edit, though the omission of the ending solo is irritating, in favor of a generic fadeout.

https://www.discogs.com/master/157793-Yes-Roundabout

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 15:39 (seven months ago) link

very weirdly, there are no youtube videos of these edits

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 15:46 (seven months ago) link

I had the Soon and America single edits on a Yes box set I got in the early-90s.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Tuesday, 10 October 2023 16:25 (seven months ago) link

I own the "Roundabout" 45, it's about as intelligent an edit as one could hope for, although it omits the iconic E minor harmonics at the beginning, charging straight into the D major acoustic bit before the band comes in (so you also lose the contrast of ending the song on the E major).
You have to imagine this would have been the first Yes recording that a lot of people heard, even those who became die-hard LP-only fans.

Halfway there but for you, Thursday, 12 October 2023 15:21 (seven months ago) link

downloaded the Yessingles release, and yeah it's pretty awkward and strange

frogbs, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 19:06 (seven months ago) link

I’m sorry but I absolutely love this, like a prog house track based on “owner of a lonely heart”

https://djprotein.bandcamp.com/album/be-yourself

brimstead, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 20:55 (seven months ago) link

I'm 100% putting this in my DJ sets

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:33 (seven months ago) link

high five

brimstead, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:42 (seven months ago) link

did this one ever get posted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlceOSjU6XU
Alex Kassian - Leave Your Life

blazin' squab (NickB), Tuesday, 17 October 2023 21:44 (seven months ago) link

that’s super lovely

brimstead, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 23:05 (seven months ago) link

one month passes...

inside out, outside in, inside out, outside in, all of the way

reggie (qualmsley), Friday, 17 November 2023 21:45 (six months ago) link

downloaded the Yessingles release, and yeah it's pretty awkward and strange

― frogbs, Tuesday, October 17, 2023 2:06 PM (one month ago)

The "Sound Chaser" edit is especially strange, as it has none of the vocal verses, just the instrumental solos and the "cha-cha-cha" part, like the label was intentionally trolling the band!

Front-loaded albums are musical gerrymandering (Prefecture), Saturday, 18 November 2023 00:06 (six months ago) link

the idea of people wanting to listen to, let alone pay money for, singles edits of fucking *yes* is absolutely beyond me

don't surround yourself with yourself
go big or go home

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 02:39 (six months ago) link

Sharp
Distance
How
Can
The wind
With its arms
All around me

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 02:42 (six months ago) link

why late at night in the u.s. does ilm get all yessed out

not that there's an answer for this, or anyone would try to take a stab at one, but still
― trevor horn, Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:24 PM (nineteen years ago)

"yessed out"?
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:25 PM (nineteen years ago)

you know, in and around the lake, mountains come out of the sky, and they stand there. I'd like to know.
― trevor horn, Thursday, August 26, 2004 11:26 PM (nineteen years ago)

aye, lads. now this was how we started a thread, in them days of yore.

J Edgar Noothgrush (Joan Crawford Loves Chachi), Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:04 (six months ago) link

trevor otm

particularly since i had not realized this thread preceded 'chessed out'

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:11 (six months ago) link

where is dave q tho

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:12 (six months ago) link

zzz

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:16 (six months ago) link

I see a man in a white car
Move like a ghost on the skyline
Take all your dreams, and you drive them away
Man in a white caaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

Florin Cuchares, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:17 (six months ago) link

SCHIND

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:41 (six months ago) link

?

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:47 (six months ago) link

So many people don't get what it means to be yessed out. Like, if you're not a dreamer easy in the chair that really fits you, what are you even doing?

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Saturday, 18 November 2023 03:50 (six months ago) link

SCHIND

əler
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praema
tuuu
rus

(boop boop)

mookieproof, Saturday, 18 November 2023 04:18 (six months ago) link

Oh right

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 04:24 (six months ago) link

Dream more easy in the chair that really fits you

calstars, Saturday, 18 November 2023 14:46 (six months ago) link

found a nice copy of their self-titled debut a couple days ago, that record understandably gets overlooked and it's not all that proggy but it's really good. way better than Time and a Word imo

frogbs, Monday, 20 November 2023 15:16 (five months ago) link

"survival" is so good

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 20 November 2023 16:01 (five months ago) link

I've always loved that song.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 20 November 2023 16:15 (five months ago) link

Once upon a time, I really loved prog rock. I don’t like all the gratuitous bits — weird time signatures and stuff, but what I loved was quite often Yes, Genesis or some prog band would hit these marvelously melodic, powerful, quasi-spiritual symphonic moments. The Beatles did that as well. Then punk rock came along and everybody was really relieved by the fact that there were suddenly these short, exciting songs. We all were listening to punk rock, and it was a breath of fresh air. But when I sit down and listen to a record now, I’m sure not listening to the Damned or the Sex Pistols. I’ve gone back to listening to Genesis, Pink Floyd and Yes.

https://tidal.com/magazine/article/church-kilbey/1-89814

reggie (qualmsley), Monday, 27 November 2023 19:28 (five months ago) link

did this one ever get posted?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vlceOSjU6XU
Alex Kassian - Leave Your Life

― blazin' squab (NickB), 17. oktober 2023 22:44 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

that’s super lovely

― brimstead, 18. oktober 2023 00:05 (one month ago) bookmarkflaglink

this is wonderful

can alex kassian do no wrong?

corrs unplugged, Thursday, 30 November 2023 09:02 (five months ago) link

Saw this on fb today, from Wakeman's memoirs.

Yes, we were the original Spinal Tap, says Rick Wakeman of Seventies prog-rock supergroup
We were playing a gig at the Manchester Free Trade Hall when I realised quite how different my lifestyle was from that of the other members of Yes.

Tales From Topographic Oceans, our grandiose 1973 album, was regarded by fans and critics alike as our most 'challenging' and I was really struggling with the tour.

Not because it was hard work - quite the opposite, in fact. As the keyboard player, there were quite a few passages where I had nothing to do or was just holding down one key.

There was a mad percussion section where everybody banged things. It lasted about ten minutes, though it felt like a year and a half when playing it - and probably when listening to it. It was a bit dull.

In those days, I used to have my roadie actually lying underneath the Hammond organ throughout the set. If anything went wrong he could try to fix it. Also, he could continually hand me my alcoholic drinks.

We'd often have a little chat and on this particular evening in Manchester, I thought he said: 'What are you doing after the show?'
'I'm going to have a curry,' I replied. 'What would you order?' It seemed a strangely specific question but I didn't have much else to do so I told him. 'Chicken vindaloo, pilau rice, half a dozen poppadums, bhindi bhaji, Bombay aloo and a stuffed paratha.'

About 30 minutes later, I started to get this distinct waft of curry. I looked down and my roadie was lying there holding up an Indian takeaway. 'What's that?' I asked.

'You said you wanted a curry.' 'No. I said I wanted a curry after the show...' However, it smelled really good so he passed up the little foil trays and I laid this lovely spread out on top of the keyboard and ate it.

The rest of the band weren't best pleased - after all, there was a certain mystique surrounding Yes.
The singer, guitarist, bassist and drummer were all thoughtful people - interested in philosophy and alternative lifestyles and this was an image at odds with the fact that the keyboard player was a beer-swilling, darts-playing, meat-eating oaf, one who would happily eat a curry in the middle of a show.

I had joined Yes in 1971. I was a classically trained musician who had worked with numerous artists as a session musician. I played on David Bowie's Life On Mars, Cat Stevens's Morning Has Broken and even on some Des O'Connor records, though I kept that quiet.

Yes was already well established as 'progressive rock' band and had a reputation for lengthy numbers, complex music and cerebral lyrics.
It wasn't the sort of outfit that attracted groupies: our fans were more likely to throw synthesizer manuals on stage than knickers.
The other four members of the band - guitarist Steve Howe, singer Jon Anderson, bassist Chris Squire and drummer Alan White - were all technically gifted musicians and, without being immodest, we were a huge band with massive record sales. Our live shows were sellouts and very ambitious.

Indeed, sometimes I needed directions just to get to my keyboards.
'Take a left here, Rick, climb over that giant mushroom, past the spaceship and just behind, beyond that cloud, are your keyboards.'

There are people who think the film This Is Spinal Tap is simply a very funny 'mockumentary'. Well, with Yes we lived it.

Take the hilarious scene in the film in which the bass player is trapped in a giant pod - that actually happened to Alan one night.

It also occurred during the Tales From Topographic Oceans album tour. That was not my favourite Yes album and I said so at the time. Maturely, I renamed it Tales From Toby's Graphic Go-Kart.
The grandiose elements of Yes were spiralling out of all control and the stage set was unbelievable. It had been designed by Roger Dean, who had done the album cover, and reflected the record's artwork.
The drum kit was inside a giant seashell, which would open after the show started, revealing Alan doing his stuff. However, one night when the curtain went up the gearing jammed and he was trapped inside.

The problem was, it was a sealed unit, so Alan quickly began running out of air.

As this was live on stage in front of thousands of people, Alan, the consummate professional, continued playing. Meanwhile the roadies began trying to smash the pod open, staying out of the line of sight of the crowd so no one noticed.
Before long, they had to start pumping oxygen in until eventually, somehow, they prised the wretched thing open with pickaxes.

By now the audience must have noticed the rescue effort because as the pod sprang open a huge cheer went up, and Alan stumbled out gasping for breath.
Of course, back in the Seventies, audiences assumed that whatever happened on the stage was intentional.

In my previous band, the Strawbs, I'd had a Hammond organ on wheels. When we were playing the last number of the night I would push this thing across the stage and race after it while playing it.

One evening I pushed a bit too hard and the Hammond went hurtling towards the edge of the stage. I dived on top of it to try to slow it down but organ and organist crashed over the edge. The Hammond was smashed to smithereens and I was cut to ribbons.

I was mopping the blood from my face when a journalist came over. 'Great show, Rick,' he said, 'but how can you afford to wreck a Hammond every night?'

There was another occasion, playing with Yes in Toronto, when one of my synthesizers, a Minimoog, broke down.

By chance, Dr Robert Moog, the brilliant electronic music pioneer and inventor of the Minimoog, was at the gig. During the interval, when the curtain was down, Bob said: 'I think I know what the problem is - do you want me to go out and take a look?'

'That would be great, if you don't mind,' I said. 'You know we're back on in about ten minutes, right?'

'That's fine,' he said. When we got the call to go back on stage, I navigated my way over to the keyboards and Bob was still there, surrounded by the innards of a Minimoog. He had dismantled it.
'Bob, Bob, we're about to start,' I hissed, but he was completely distracted. 'Yes, I think I know what the problem is,' he said prodding a circuit board.

The curtain went up and Yes had suddenly acquired a sixth member who was messing about with a complicated piece of electronic wizardry in the middle of the stage, completely oblivious to the audience of 20,000 punters, all of whom appeared to accept this as perfectly normal.

At the end of the show, at which time Bob was still happily tinkering with the synth, I introduced him to the audience who gave him a standing ovation. Bob looked up and said: 'Oh, are you ready to start now?'

When Yes started to perform 'in the round' - where a circular stage is planted in the middle of the venue with the audience all around the band - getting to our instruments was suddenly a major headache.

I think it was Jon who came up with a solution. 'We need a tunnel, then we can all get to the stage in one piece and quickly,' he said.
'We can't dig a tunnel under the floor of every venue, Jon,' I said.
'No, Rick, an overground tunnel. It will look fantastic.'
We had this immense tunnel built out of what appeared to be very strong rice paper. It looked like the world's biggest Chinese lantern. Using the finest engineering science known to man, we based it on the Slinky, those toys that flip down stairs.

The tunnel folded in on itself for shipping and opened up for the show. We ran lights through the inside and it looked absolutely brilliant. As the music started to play, the band members would march through the tunnel and our silhouettes would alert the audience to our presence, raising the tension even more.

The crew, meanwhile, hated it. The paper would rip, the wooden frames would split, it never folded properly, it took too long to work and it was almost impossible to cart around. They made their feelings known - and we completely ignored them.

The very next show they took their revenge. The music duly started and we all strode excitedly along inside the illuminated tunnel, only half noticing that the sound of the audience was getting further and further away.
Finally we came to a halt by a large green EXIT sign. Unbeknown to us, the crew had redirected the tunnel away from the stage.

Touring with Yes was generally great fun and I got on well with the rest of the guys but we were like chalk and cheese in many respects.

I was unique in the band as a card-carrying Conservative. They were all teetotal, while I could drink for England. And they were all vegetarians - I was an unashamed carnivore.
I have no objection to vegetarians (though I don't understand why, if you don't eat meat, you make tofu look like sausages or burgers) but some of the band were extreme with their vegetarianism.
For a couple of them, having a meal consisting entirely of vegetables was not enough - they had to know the farming methods used in their production, the name of the guy who planted them and, ideally, the species and health of the birds whose droppings had enriched the organic soil.
Well, that might be possible these days in a wholefood specialist shop, but in a Holiday Inn coffee shop in the American Deep South in the early Seventies? Some of the band were going without food for days and it was becoming impossible. So we decided to take a chef on the road.

I pointed out that I did not want to spend every night of the tour munching on a single lettuce leaf washed on the banks of the Nile by spiritually enlightened shamans. The band agreed that the chef could cook separate meat-crammed meals for me.

On the first Saturday, he said: 'Rick, do you fancy a nice roast tomorrow?' 'Bloody hell, do I fancy a roast? Absolutely,' I replied.
We played the Sunday show and, back at the hotel, all sat down to eat. The chef brought out the rest of the band's food first: some chives, a carrot or two and some celery sticks. They all tucked in, saying, rather unconvincingly, that the meal was delicious.

Then the chef returned with an enormous silver platter on which sat a magnificent golden-brown 22lb turkey, sausages wrapped in bacon, potatoes and parsnips.
The veggies around the table stopped eating, their forks suspended in mid-air. The chef put the roast in front of me and started serving it up - the aroma was incredible.
Then someone said: 'Er, could I try some roasted potatoes or parsnips, please?'
'Sorry, chaps, cooked in goose fat,' replied the chef.

I piled my plate high and got stuck in. With the exception of guitarist Steve, who was the most committed of the veggies, everyone watched my every mouthful. After they had finished their meals, a mass exodus ensued, clearly to avoid being around this delightful roast for too long.
A few minutes later, the door opened. It was Alan, our drummer. 'All right, Rick. I was thinking, I know I'm veggie and all that but to be honest I do eat the occasional piece of white meat. Any chance I could try some of the turkey?'
'Of course, help yourself,' I said. 'Thanks, but I'll take it back to my room, if that's OK.' He hastily put some of the turkey and trimmings on a plate and scurried off.
Five minutes later, Jon walked in. 'Rick. I was thinking, I do have the odd bit of chicken now and then, so I was wondering...'
He was followed by Chris. 'Be my guest,' I pre-empted.
I turned to the chef who was grinning widely. 'Probably best if you don't mention this, my friend...'

It was after the now infamous vindaloo incident at Manchester Free Trade Hall that I started to wonder about my future with the band. When the most enjoyable part of a live performance is the curry that you eat in the middle of it, you know that it's time to start thinking about moving on.
Due to circumstances and the musical direction in which we were heading, there was increasingly less and less I could put in and it was becoming very unrewarding.

After we'd finished the Tales From Topographic Oceans tour, we were due to start rehearsing new material on May 18, 1975 - I know the date because it was my birthday.

I'd gone down to my farmhouse in Devon to clear my head. It was a very weird day. First, I got a phone call from the Yes management asking why I wasn't at rehearsals.

'I told you, that's it, I'm off,' I said. 'I don't want to do this free-form jazz, I can't contribute anything to it, it's not me and I don't think it's Yes.'

They tried to talk me into rehearsing but my mind was made up. Five minutes later the phone rang and it was Terry O'Neil from A&M Records in London.
I had recorded Journey To The Centre Of The Earth as a solo project with the label. Terry sounded ecstatic.

'Rick, Journey has just gone to No1 in the album charts!' he cried.

It was time to move on for good.

© 2008 Rick Wakeman and Martin Roach.
Adapted from Grumpy Old Rock Star, by Rick Wakeman.

nickn, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:23 (five months ago) link

amazing, now I actually kind of like this guy?

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:35 (five months ago) link

this has been his obnoxious shtick for decades, it's even worse than his actual playing

j/k that's not possible obviously

mark s, Wednesday, 6 December 2023 22:39 (five months ago) link

Wakeman's stories are hilarious but yea let's not pretend this dude didn't do King Arthur on Ice and Journey to the Centre of the Earth. not to mention the capes he wore onstage. he was probably more fun to party with sure but he was just as pretentious and weird as the rest of them. if Yes had a "normal" member in those days it was probably Alan White. he seemed to be the one guy everyone got on with.

frogbs, Thursday, 7 December 2023 00:07 (five months ago) link

Thank the heavens for pretentious and weird musicians.

SQUIRREL MEAT!! (Capitaine Jay Vee), Thursday, 7 December 2023 00:45 (five months ago) link

not surprised that the other members of Yes were opportunivores

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Thursday, 7 December 2023 00:53 (five months ago) link

Steve held out!

nickn, Thursday, 7 December 2023 02:13 (five months ago) link

there's a super deluxe of the Yes Album out now (feels like this album gets reissued every time I blink); remaster of the original mix+steven wilson mix again, a mono fold down which I guess was a radio promo at the time (pointless), but there are some live things from two 1973 sets which are cool and maybe haven't been out before, dunno, I honestly can't keep track. There's also a 2x45rpm pressing coming out as part of that Atlantic celebration (I don't fuck around with LPs at 45, I do not have enough time to get up and flip sides every two songs)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 7 December 2023 03:59 (five months ago) link

I do not have enough time to get up and flip sides every two songs

buddy this is the Yes thread

frogbs, Thursday, 7 December 2023 04:14 (five months ago) link

yeah but I'm not talking about 20 minute songs, I'm talking about the Yes Album. They're also going to split Close to the Edge (the song) in half and put half on side one and the other half of the song on side 2. That is dumb.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, 7 December 2023 04:17 (five months ago) link

what part of I get up I get down do you not understand

frogbs, Thursday, 7 December 2023 04:18 (five months ago) link

Even Siberia goes through the motions
Hold out and hold up and flip and place down again (bluetail, tailfly)

The midnight special youtube channel has uploaded some clips of Flash recently

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gz_yMb1YKco

Very interesting, I really like the first minute or so and clearly Peter Banks brought something to the table that was...no longer at the table afterwards, would have been neat if he had rejoined the fold at some point

Florin Cuchares, Thursday, 7 December 2023 05:37 (five months ago) link


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