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Saint's Row really is as bad as everyone said it was lol

Have spent a good 50+ hours into Dave the Diver. Surprisingly great game

dave the daver

I'm loving Baldur's Gate PS5 so far. Really cool game

People have been loving that. How is the gameplay? I tried to get with the old Infinity Engine games back in the day but they felt so stodgy and cumbersome compared to Fallout and even Planescape: Torment, worried that the D&D-ness might be off-putting again.

Very different to old school infinity engines. By far the most polished CRPG on the market, so if anything would win you back..... it's definitely not stodgy or cumbersome

There's definitely a lot to get your head around with BG3, but I'd say it's as accessible as a super-dense CRPG can be. It is *hard* though. You're usually outnumbered in fights and have to strategize carefully.

The most important thing is to remember to save often. I lost a lot of progress last night on a party wipe.

It actually reminds me of Fromsoft in the way that it does not sugarcoat its difficulty, yet there are exploits you can cheese if you can figure out they're there.

planescape torment is an infinity engine game and a d&d adaptation, tho the combat mechanics barely matter so i get why yr separating it.

bg3 is a v detailed d&d5 adaptation that probably tries harder to implement more parts of the system than anything since temple of elemental evil? but is also taking pains to make them as accessible as possible. i disliked the original sin games because found their character+item systems worthless and their lore+vibe extremely lame, but did think the environmental interactivity was on to something; decided i was pro-bg3 when i shoved a goblin off a cliff and fired a magic missile at him while he lay prone at the base. opening+plot a lil AAA-grand for me, would have preferred meeting in a tavern, but what are you gonna do.

love fallout but would prob call its interface stodgier than IE-- it's a lil older after all and that inventory scrolling is absurd.

probably tries harder to implement more parts of the system than anything since temple of elemental evil

should note that in the case of TOEE (and the recent pathfinder games) "the system" is a derivation of the famously stuffed-to-bursting d&d3 with its Modifiers For Everything and that BG3 being based on d&d5 right away makes it a lil less of a spreadsheet game.

Yeah the D&D 5e license is the best thing that could have happened to Larian's style of RPG, I would find it extremely difficult to get excited about Divinity Original Sin 3 at this point

What do you mean about finding D:OS character+item systems worthless?

If you do a liiiiitttle bit of research into party management, I don't think BG3 is that difficult. I'm playing tactician and my rogue/warlock/cleric/barbarian class is cruising through most battles. I am also trying to do every bit of content which helps. If you're not a completetionist, being underleveled and not having the top equipment might hurt you plenty. Best to play on a lower difficulty.

(Not bragging, I am on record here a week ago stating Zelda TOTK was too hard for me, so...... ya know)

I’m loving BG3, it’s a superior product to Larian’s prior work in a lot of ways, but y’all mad with the Divinity dismissals. Only just thru Act I of Baldur’s but I still haven’t seen anything to convince me that it’s combat system and scenarios are as engaging as D:OS2’s.

To HP’s point, D:OS2 had some battles that would genuinely make you sweat and consider every action point, piece of environment, and placement of character. As fun as BG3’s combat is, you can just punch through most situations once you have a handle on it.

Yeah it cannot be overestimated the extra dimension environmental/elemental combat gives to D:OS. That + your movement taking actions, every combat decision has a bit of added weight to it. I am liking the simplicity of bg3 combat though, sometimes all the fire and cursed water and what not in divinity was just too much to enjoy

"all your attributes start the same and every couple levels you pump the relevant one" + "everything is interlocking cooldowns" reminded me of dragon age, the classic "we don't have the license anymore but that's okay right?" game (reverse bg3)

itemization felt v diablo: an infinite number of randomly generated magic swords of +1.344% DPS i am constantly checking against my current randomly generated magic sword of +1.342% DPS. not as grim as witcher 3 but pretty grim iirc

but yes as i said the exploding barrels were interesting

you might be right about encounter design / challenge; certainly i've gotten further in bg3 than in either d:os lol

an infinite number of randomly generated magic swords of +1.344% DPS i am constantly checking against my current randomly generated magic sword of +1.342% DPS

uuuugh, yes, this "mechanic" or part of a gameplay "loop" - it tickles the fancy of so many people and yet it heavily irritates my fancy

sorry, that came off as heavily negative. i love diablo (still haven't played 4 because i know what it will do to my life)

it's okay that diablo is like that because diablo is supposed to be a treadmill you hop on and off with your friends, but it depresses me in single-player "be caught up in our sweeping otherworld" experiences-- it is also outrageously bad in cyberpunk, a game i mostly think is underrated

There seem to be a lot of these top-down RPGs that just seem like a jumble of random number explosions to me. Are these all MMORPGs? What confuses me is that I read that Baldur's Gate 3 is designed as a single-player game, but any footage I've seen is a crew out doing battles and stuff.

they're single-party games, they have co-op but there aren't other players running around out there outside your party so not an MMO

you control the whole crew.

(tho for some fucking reason you can't group-select them.)

indie game - pikmin, but you can't group select

but yes as i said the exploding barrels were interesting

sry for this lol, agreed that the environmental/elemental combat system was the best part is all i mean (tho as sgt biscuits chronicles in the actual BG3 thread maybe running a trifle hot)

I don't think I got out of the second level (the one after Fort Joy) in my single player DOS2 game, but I almost never used the environment outside of putting my ranged dudes on high ground.

i played an awesome full 4-player co-op campaign in DOS2 as a wizard (or some sort of spelldcaster). i set everything on fire, purposefully and accidentally, approximately 1500 times

speaking as a permanent amateur since i haven't played that many ttrpgs or dnd campaigns, but DOS2 is interesting because the environmental effects, while technically possible in a ttrpg, would be waaaaaaay too annoying to do in real life, to keep track of the elemental/environmental status of every tile in a battle. it's an idea and style of play that makes much more sense in a computer game.

thanks for the input team.. i'll probably give it a chance when it gets discounted

I gave Starfield a few hours and I'm honestly not sure if I'll ever boot it up again.

I heard it gets better after the first ... 12 hours.

I did the same re: starfield. Many xxps: I don’t remember dignity’s weapon system being like that? I thought it was entirely similar to BG3’s, with the additional magic/physical armour thing (another element I loved). I’ll have to boot it up again, it’s on my extremely long list of games I stopped playing 3/4’s through for no particular reason.

Currently doing a level of alien isolation on the steam deck each night. Very pretty game. I like its confidence in itself to be exactly what it is. No bloat, no extraneous systems, just some good enemy a.I, some great audio ambience, and a by the numbers alien story told well in a videogame format. It’s a fantastic sum of its parts. And my wife (who hates anything horror) hasn’t even complained yet while playing it next to her!

It's kind of amazing how well that game nails everything and and yet how so few games have come close to doing what it does so well. Re: bloat, I never got around to finishing it (will start over at some point), but I have heard some people complain about its length.

Finished Streets of Rogue tonight on co-op. fun stupid chaos.

Are you talking about alien isolation Josh?

Alien Isolation rules. I never finished it, maybe a little longer than it needs to be, but super cool game. Love how it really goes for the original Alien aesthetic.

xpost Yeah, played a bunch of it when I bothered with the Switch. Really well balanced and paced, imo, both in terms of progress and threats. A lot of thought put into it

I'm only up to chapter 5, just saw there's 18 chapters. If it stays this high quality throughout then I am fine with that length? The chapters are a perfect bite size; it is literally replacing reading a book chapter at night for me right now and it fills that role well. I'm sure I would not enjoy it as much if I tried to plow through it in a few days though.

I do like when the alien franchise leans on the whole "can we trust A.I? no!" angle. Happy it gets an early entrance in this game

void stranger is game of the year, easily

Just read a review and that sounds intriguing & pretty insane. Hope it comes out for PS.

I bought Somerville, by one of the people who made Limbo/Inside, came out a year ago on PC and Xbox but just out now on PS.

Looks neat. Saw this with a review:

Playdead have reached out to say “There is no overlap between the creative teams and leadership making LIMBO and INSIDE and the creative team and leadership making SOMERVILLE, in fact the only human overlap there is is executive producer Dino Patti who was not a creative contributor to LIMBO or INSIDE. I understand why you draw parallels between the titles, but I can assure you that there is no overlap between the creative teams and that we have no involvement with the SOMERVILLE project.

Huh yeah, kinda crazy since it looks extremely Limbo/Inside in terms of style.

And there's another game by the person who actually made Limbo & Inside? Looks really cool.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xub7_FhlWws

Chants of Senaar, the Moebius tower of Babel game, is pretty chewy in a good way! After a very brief tutorial, you're thrown into the deep end as far as figuring out the game mechanics even as you try to piece together all the language puzzles.

Began "Bioshock Infinite." It's already pretty different from the first two, or at least, the start is overwhelming while the others sort of ease you into their worlds. Kinda getting nu-"Wolfenstein" vibes from it.

chants of senaar sounds great. wishlisted.