TS: Lewis vs Morse

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maybe it will not be terrible

mark s, Monday, 4 September 2023 18:03 (seven months ago) link

i have bad news

da elephant in daruma (Noodle Vague), Monday, 4 September 2023 18:06 (seven months ago) link

OMG, never even knew such a ridiculous thing existed

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Monday, 4 September 2023 18:11 (seven months ago) link

i have a very vague memory of something like this occurring in a book-detective series -- like a break from the present to dig into the past -- where it maybe worked a bit better? but i can't remember which detective so making the comparison is a bit bogus really

mark s, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:05 (seven months ago) link

the daughter of time?

difficult listening hour, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:56 (seven months ago) link

doesn’t work that well in that tbh.

difficult listening hour, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:57 (seven months ago) link

haven't read it and not what i had in mind -- if i had anything at all -- but yes!

mark s, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:58 (seven months ago) link

(lewis sat this one out btw)

mark s, Monday, 4 September 2023 20:07 (seven months ago) link

(he made the right decision)

mark s, Monday, 4 September 2023 20:07 (seven months ago) link

actually what i might be thinking of is a tv reinvestigation of the ripper murders which i saw in 1973: the faces fronting it were barlow and watt (stratford johns and frank windsor) of z cars and then softly softly

i remember my dad having to explain to me what "poses plastique" were, something abt a male brothel (i don't recall why this was relevant; maybe he didn't explain that)

mark s, Monday, 4 September 2023 20:15 (seven months ago) link

anyway it's 50 years since i saw that but i think it was better than this is

mark s, Monday, 4 September 2023 20:26 (seven months ago) link

it was a half season of shite in the sopranos is what i remember

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Monday, 4 September 2023 20:39 (seven months ago) link

last ever ep

morse: "you know you really should persevere with wagner, lewis, it's about IMPORTANT THINGS"

mark s, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 18:10 (seven months ago) link

lewis going off when the woman suspect says "Morse will understand" That's INSPECTOR Morse.

oscar bravo, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 19:07 (seven months ago) link

at least he had strange with him when he went

mark s, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 20:04 (seven months ago) link

so i started watching endeavour from the start bcz in the evening after a day's work i am always fatigued ftb beta blockers and demanding TV is no longer for me :(

mostly it sucks MIGHTILY (very badly written) but in this ep (no 3 in all: rocket) YUNG MORSE caused the girl he's currently interested in laugh when he called a disco a "pop dancing club" (ep set in 1965) -- that was actually a good line and a good exchange, where the anachronism is the great man's callow error not the scriptwriter's

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 09:05 (seven months ago) link

One I saw was set the week of the 1966 world cup final and I peaced out pretty quick

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 09:15 (seven months ago) link

"Would you bring Greaves back into the side Morse?" fuck off

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 09:17 (seven months ago) link

Morse would refuse to watch because Ramsey wasn't playing wingers.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Tuesday, 12 September 2023 09:25 (seven months ago) link

2 ("fugue") was abt a serial killer playing fiendish games in codes that only an advanced musical brain could ever crack ("every good boy deserves favour")

i don't mind shaun evans -- very watchable -- but so far i hate his oh-i-just-cracked-this scene and pray it is not going to be a fixture

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 15:21 (seven months ago) link

academic misuses "refute" in 1965* -- not very likely but might have happened?
an angry morse not jumping scornfuly on the solecism -- would absolutely not have happened lol

*it's not a synonym for "deny": to refute you must supply the proof

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 16:53 (seven months ago) link

oh-i-just-cracked-this scene and pray it is not going to be a fixture

oh no

carson dial, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 19:43 (seven months ago) link

(very dislikeable) character mentions the new left review while teasing morse (it's 1966 so ilx's beloved perry anderson is editor) #onethread

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 20:19 (seven months ago) link

this is the silliest stuff

mark s, Tuesday, 12 September 2023 21:00 (seven months ago) link

now watching the world cup ep: it also features chopin and heraldry plus a haunted girls school that's very picnic at hanging rock when it's not harry potter

getting unrelated topics to clash fruitfully is a morsey thing tho i think it fails at this more often than it succeeds and i don't have high hopes for this

mark s, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 16:35 (seven months ago) link

scooby-doo-ass garbage

mark s, Wednesday, 13 September 2023 17:11 (seven months ago) link

gotta hand it to em, sway was a pretty good ep, maybe it's finding its feet!

(i mean still p silly in some ways, but also quite affecting and the anachronism kept in check for a change)

mark s, Thursday, 14 September 2023 19:45 (seven months ago) link

(i like the one-word titles btw, that's a nice tic)

mark s, Thursday, 14 September 2023 19:45 (seven months ago) link

deems said this show got better and in s3 it has, which is nice

is there another drama which wd open with a close-up of a man deploying MOLE TRAPS on a well kept lawn, i think not

mark s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:23 (seven months ago) link

the mole trap man is in fact lozza's dad :|

mark s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:39 (seven months ago) link

a hathaway

mark s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 17:39 (seven months ago) link

ok that was the silliest story i have ever watched, mole traps or no mole traps

mark s, Wednesday, 20 September 2023 19:58 (seven months ago) link

Do you think Fox's breakdown into whatever he is now was precipitated by expecting to replace Kevin Whateley as the main guy in the franchise and they're all like, lol no, we're gonna do heartbeat morse instead

xl bully romance (Bananaman Begins), Thursday, 21 September 2023 10:59 (seven months ago) link

it can't have helped that they included his character's dad as a completely inconsequential walk-on character (who doesn't even get to be a red herring)

mark s, Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:30 (seven months ago) link

history of Loz's life tbf

skin like puff pastry (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 21 September 2023 16:39 (seven months ago) link

this record is ok but it's no "l'amour"

https://head-records.bandcamp.com/album/beliefs-destroyer

i know, i haven't thought of "l'amour" in about a decade either

Kate (rushomancy), Thursday, 21 September 2023 20:13 (seven months ago) link

I bet it's better than this...

https://laurencefox.bandcamp.com/album/a-grief-observed

I Left My Harp In Sam Frank's Disco (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:19 (seven months ago) link

... OMG I just listened to it!

I Left My Harp In Sam Frank's Disco (Tom D.), Thursday, 21 September 2023 21:22 (seven months ago) link

this is the stuff:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41KgNJ9qGDI

mark s, Friday, 22 September 2023 09:24 (seven months ago) link

"next time you see my name it'll be on page one!"

things not say say on endeavour

mark s, Friday, 22 September 2023 17:24 (seven months ago) link

the ep that combines a mary whitehouse-alike with a pink floyd-alike and a gay news-alike* (plus a simon dee-alike) has a moment where morse is harrumphing abt rock criticism

my usual beef: huge surges of anachronism poorly steered thru but lol his actual crit (of a mode of interviewing and writing that didn't really exist yet in 1967) is not inaccurate! though its problems go more to the difficulties of self-taight musicians getting across to non-musicians how music gets collectively put together, than to the brainlessness he prefers to think it (never change lonely grumpy high-culture dude, yr instincts are good but their expressive framework is terrible)

*it compresses the gay news prosecution of 1977 (for blasphemy) into the oz prosecution of 1970 (for obscenity)

mark s, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:12 (seven months ago) link

decriminalisation only took place in 1967; gay news was in fact founded in 1972 and an equivalent would hardly have needed a mary whitehouse-alike to get it shut it down five years earlier

how much does all this matter (besides driving me the actual person watching very bonkers)?

mark s, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:25 (seven months ago) link

sylvestra le touzel is p good as the whitehouse-alike lady tho -- she does the accent as a full thatcher, which is cheeky but nevertheless effective

mark s, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:32 (seven months ago) link

also it gets into the toxicity of LSD *and* the vagaries of copyright law and who wrote what 👍🏽👍🏽👍🏽

mark s, Saturday, 23 September 2023 16:41 (seven months ago) link

i’ve been watching the original inspector morse series and it’s wild how much pussy this guy gets pic.twitter.com/TAZGIHqpBj

— Brandy Jensen (@BrandyLJensen) September 24, 2023

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 24 September 2023 06:31 (seven months ago) link

phil daniels klaxon (thursday's brother)

mark s, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:35 (seven months ago) link

(also thursday i guess)

mark s, Wednesday, 27 September 2023 16:35 (seven months ago) link

chekov's minefeld lol

mark s, Saturday, 30 September 2023 15:11 (seven months ago) link

i have hugely come round on this daft nonsense (endeavour)

(w/its relentless commitment to tackling the most serious historical matter in the goofiest possible anachro-historical context)

mark s, Saturday, 30 September 2023 15:14 (seven months ago) link

the ep set in a public school is kind of a rip of le carre's a murder of quality iirc (which is lol NOT his best book) and the only bits i'm enjoying in are the (v short) exchanges where morse, a copper sneaked in as a suubstitute classics teacher, discusses authors like ovid or suetonius with his pupils. it's not convincing especially, it's just funny

it's the late 60s but here's one of (real) teachers describes a punished child as being "under heavy manners" -- a phrase that entered normie english via rockpaper-chat courtesy a prince far-i album title c. 1977 (and beyind that, according to jonathon green's dictionary of slang, from jamaican political manoeuvring… )

the scriptwriters just have a permanent tin ear for conversation of the exact period they're trying to recreate and as someone who lived through it it is just exhausting

mark s, Sunday, 1 October 2023 17:50 (seven months ago) link


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