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events i regret not going to this weekend, ranked

(1) pirate fetish convention
(2) trans dance party
(3) one of the many fine local farmer's markets
(4) burning man, which i am assured is totally fine and will continue to be totally fine as long as the drugs don't run out.

"totally fine as long as the drugs don't run out" is how i describe myself on grindr but frankly i've never seen estrogen as much of a party drug

Kate (rushomancy), Monday, 4 September 2023 16:37 (seven months ago) link

The one person I know at burning man has checked in on FB and she's alive. Definitely posting with #burnerstrong energy, I don't assume any lessons are being learned.

omar little, Monday, 4 September 2023 16:55 (seven months ago) link

learned lessons are but clay pigeons launched before the disruption gun

cracked fixed view mire (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 September 2023 17:02 (seven months ago) link

it doesnt seem that bad honestly tho if it continued to ran it could be

lag∞n, Monday, 4 September 2023 17:02 (seven months ago) link

lol at the heroic adventures walking out of there, assume they got someone to take care of their stuff for them

lag∞n, Monday, 4 September 2023 17:03 (seven months ago) link

Or they just leave it and try to collect what money they can from REI when home

cracked fixed view mire (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 September 2023 17:06 (seven months ago) link

faced with the post-holiday deadlines of a monster whose identity cannot withstand missing a single meeting, the gortex moans

cracked fixed view mire (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 4 September 2023 17:12 (seven months ago) link

sorta wish biden would show up and throws some jumpers of tp and papertowels like trump after maria.

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 September 2023 19:41 (seven months ago) link

fecal Jackson Pollock

ok, sarahell. thank you. that's enough.

pplains, Monday, 4 September 2023 21:24 (seven months ago) link

when i see this i get stuck at who’s culpable: art hippies, or edward abbey?

then i just “why not both? i still hope u safe. mostly.”

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Monday, 4 September 2023 21:50 (seven months ago) link

Other than a few people with seriously compromised health who may need to be evacuated by helicopter, these dolts should be left to commune with their own excrement.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 4 September 2023 22:34 (seven months ago) link

Lol According to Diplo Chris Rock was freaking out that people were going to turn to cannibalism

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 00:48 (seven months ago) link

I mean have you ever tasted tech bro execs?

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 00:49 (seven months ago) link

I mean have you ever tasted tech bro execs?


i dunno, children are supposedly quite yummy in a pinch

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 00:59 (seven months ago) link

I went to a desert raver in Mojave during the crazy rainstorms of February 2016. Car got stuck in the mud on the way in and out. Was still fun and I'm sure most people out there are adapting and having a great time. Was nearly snowed on in Death Valley while up in the Racetrack Playa. Went to Burning Man in 2015 when it was probably the 2nd or 1st most dustiest year in its history.

People panicking or making a stink about this are either projecting their distaste for BM or "hippies" or "tech people" or haven't ever actually camped in a desert proper. The lede that's buried here is much of this crazy weather causing this scene is yet another obvious sign of climate change.

octobeard, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 01:19 (seven months ago) link

heh heh, nah. i know the space. hippies or abbey. but our own septic juices the bechamel, u got that right.

you need magical thinking ay my name is david blaine (Hunt3r), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 01:25 (seven months ago) link

People panicking or making a stink about this are either projecting their distaste for BM or "hippies" or "tech people" or haven't ever actually camped in a desert proper. The lede that's buried here is much of this crazy weather causing this scene is yet another obvious sign of climate change.

1) yes
2) yes
3) yes
4) yes and why should that stop me?
5) no duh

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 01:58 (seven months ago) link

The desert is by definition a place prone to extremes and should be treated with great respect. According to Wikipedia, in 2019, 78,850 people participated in the event. There's a lot of hubris on display in the very concept of Burning Man, no matter how many port-a-potties and medical tents they set up.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 03:29 (seven months ago) link

Desert Blast, "the largest outlaw fireworks show in the West," was always the one I wanted to get to but never did.
https://www.wired.com/1994/12/desert-blast/

Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 03:44 (seven months ago) link

Climate change activists tried to block the entrance to Burning Man and attendees mocked them as they drove through and the organizers called the cops

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 12:26 (seven months ago) link

projecting my distaste for BM or "hippies" or "tech people" while reading this

Burning Man yesterday after rain….double rainbow.
The Playa was dry and walkable tonight.
All the artwork,the Man and the Temple were on display
A memorable year. More rain. Less dust.
Discussions of whether eating vegans counted as keeping vegetarian were strictly hypothetical pic.twitter.com/aSAr732ny9

— Grover Norquist (@GroverNorquist) September 3, 2023

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 23:33 (seven months ago) link

Just want to make Grover small enough that he can be drowned in a mud puddle

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 23:50 (seven months ago) link

Norquist and his wife attended the annual Burning Man festival in Black Rock, Nevada in August 2014. Norquist explained that he wished to attend because, "There's no government that organizes this. That's what happens when nobody tells you what to do. You just figure it out. So Burning Man is a refutation of the argument that the state has a place in nature."

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 00:21 (seven months ago) link

is he a full-on libertarian or something? fuck that dude

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 00:34 (seven months ago) link

Burning Man is a refutation of the argument that the state has a place in nature.

Deep thoughts from someone who can't see past the end of his nose.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 01:04 (seven months ago) link

That's what happens when nobody tells you what to do. You just figure it out.

Never been to BM, but it looks like there's a whole bunch of someone telling you what to do, and what not to do

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 01:19 (seven months ago) link

"Nobody tells me what to do! I just figure it out!"
- Ayn Rand enthusiast parked in Q4 A12 R33 #12

https://i.imgur.com/XQp3Ks0.png

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 02:21 (seven months ago) link

Where Burning Man's money went (as of pre-Covid 2020)
https://www.rgj.com/story/life/arts/burning-man/2020/01/09/burning-man-money-t-tax-documents-black-rock-city-budget/2827709001/

Elvis Telecom, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 04:00 (seven months ago) link

IT Director Heather Gallagher: $183,000, increase of $46,000
Managing Director Heather White: $176,000, increase of $15,000

https://i.imgur.com/ze9TRgp.png

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 04:04 (seven months ago) link

classic boston accent name

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 04:05 (seven months ago) link

i went to school with a girl named heathah mcgwiah

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 04:11 (seven months ago) link

heather ledger itt

close encounters of the third knid (darraghmac), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 08:49 (seven months ago) link

what are the rival "purplish blooms" namewise?

i think crocus, catmint and purpletop vervain, i'm calling christian slater's agent right now

mark s, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 09:03 (seven months ago) link

There's a lot of hubris on display in the very concept of Burning Man, no matter how many port-a-potties and medical tents they set up.

There's a lot of hubris in the very existence of the cities of Phoenix, Las Vegas, New Orleans, Mexico City, and Venice; not to mention a good dozen metropolises in India and China. Civilization is Hubris. If anything BM is at least a creative expression of a city that ends up appearing and disappearing over the course of a few months and has inspired a lot more positive things than negative, unlike a ton of other festivals and events that free passes for infinitely worse shit.

What happens to some of those aforementioned urban centers over the next 25-50 years is far more concerning than any environmental or even moral issues Black Rock City would offer up.

octobeard, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 11:09 (seven months ago) link

that get free passes

octobeard, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 11:10 (seven months ago) link

_There's a lot of hubris on display in the very concept of Burning Man, no matter how many port-a-potties and medical tents they set up._


There's a lot of hubris in the very existence of the cities of Phoenix, Las Vegas, New Orleans, Mexico City, and Venice; not to mention a good dozen metropolises in India and China. Civilization is Hubris. If anything BM is at least a creative expression of a city that ends up appearing and disappearing over the course of a few months and has inspired a lot more positive things than negative, unlike a ton of other festivals and events that free passes for infinitely worse shit.

What happens to some of those aforementioned urban centers over the next 25-50 years is far more concerning than any environmental or even moral issues Black Rock City would offer up.


oh get fucked with this apologist bullshit.

Burning Man is a fake TAZ with a fake mission and is an excuse for people with wealth to engage in disgusting hedonism and wreak havoc intentionally on a fragile environment.

Burning Man has inspired nothing of note. What, a shitty psytrance album?

Fuck Burning Man and fuck Burners.

As for your comparison to metropolises, Vegas and Phoenix are certainly on the list for good reason. But to place cities that have been densely settled for thousands of years in the same category is just evidence that your point isn’t well-thought out.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 11:21 (seven months ago) link

the art is bad too, not even really art

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:02 (seven months ago) link

engage in disgusting hedonism

okay, what's wrong with this exactly?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 18:30 (seven months ago) link

"I don’t care how exotic the drugs or how interesting the art is: once people such as Mark Zuckerberg and Elon Musk show up to your party, there is no longer anything countercultural about it. You are not rebelling against the man. You are the man."

https://www.theguardian.com/culture/commentisfree/2023/sep/05/why-all-the-burning-man-schadenfreude-where-do-i-start-

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:00 (seven months ago) link

burning man is so lame that's the funniest part, just the dumbest, lamest 90s cyber cafe white dread bullshit

Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:12 (seven months ago) link

I mean let's just tell off Glastonbury, Sonar (which shows off very similar art) and everything else then. And I guess sex, drugs and having fun is no longer okay! Just because some huge assholes go to the same thing. Like all events and concerts too. Jeez I guess I'll never leave the house and just hate the world, okay? This outrage at BM is completely ridiculous. Should we make fun of all the regional burns too?

Wrt to my city comparisons, the very fact Venice is still around is hubris. Building any give urban center at any point in human history has profound impacts on the surrounding environs and even the weather. My point stands.

octobeard, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:12 (seven months ago) link

I'm grateful to burning man for luring the most annoying people away from the bay area for a week every year.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:18 (seven months ago) link

It'd be nice if they actually did try to establish a real city out there so we'd have more than a week's reprieve.

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:20 (seven months ago) link

Also somebody has to burn that guy

Beyond Goo and Evol (President Keyes), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:22 (seven months ago) link

Like so many things in human experience, it's an interesting concept made significantly less interesting by the people actually involved.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:24 (seven months ago) link

glastonbury and sonar can have some decent music and don't have inflated reputations as proof of concept of anarcho-capitalism

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:30 (seven months ago) link

you're not allowed to buy or sell things, but fair point on the music

what you say is true but by no means (lukas), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:35 (seven months ago) link

I feel a lot of the people posting above have never gone. Honestly, I felt similarly before I went in 2011, but I chose to go without expectations or cynicism. One of the best times of my life and gave me a creative energy I still channel to this day, hence my defensiveness. I also love watching and going to concerts and professional sports games so I'm used to being around large crowds non sober people sprinkled with oligarchs and massive dickheads.

octobeard, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:38 (seven months ago) link

Should we make fun of all the regional burns too?

I mean, sure?

Maxmillion D. Boosted (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:39 (seven months ago) link

xp I have tons of friends who go and even work there but it is def not for me, I do see the positives (although there are also negatives) and tbh nobody who is a regular there seemed the least bit put out by the weather issues

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:40 (seven months ago) link


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