Fringe (new JJ Abrams show) : Mad scientist, flesh eating virus, a cow and talks with the dead

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So we have been bingeing this like crazy and are now about 5 episodes into Season 5

watching it back to back definitely made everything make a little more sense to me this time around, I felt way less confused by the timey-wimey shenanigans of Season 4 for sure.

some stray thoughts
- the Observers kind of suck? (pre S5 Nazification, I mean). Like they're just really not good at their jobs and just absolutely fuck up entire timelines every time they try to 'fix' something.
- that being said, Michael Cerveris as September is the ONLY convincing Observer, in terms of performance. Such a soulful delivery and he has such a lovely tone to his voice. All the other actors act like dead-eyed robots.
- big Fathers/Sons thematic energy throughout this show, like when you see it all lined up the whole show is really about Walter's love for Peter
- Lincoln Lee is still lovely
- Olivia/fauxLivia/third-timeline Olivia - how I sum this up to an extent: Peter would bone her in any timeline, basically LOL

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 00:37 (seven months ago) link

also, most importantly

While i don’t mind the story of S5 & its quite exciting in its way — it does a thing I don’t like — they AGAIN re-maternalize Olivia, like they did in S1 “oh she’s too much of a cold fish lets give her a kid etc”

Olivia becomes much more of a overwhelmed-by-feels emo sidekick in S5 in this very boys-own-dystopian-verse which is kind of a bummer

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 04:21 (seven months ago) link

While i don’t mind the story of S5 & its quite exciting in its way — it does a thing I don’t like — they AGAIN re-maternalize Olivia, like they did in S1 “oh she’s too much of a cold fish lets give her a kid etc”

This was one of my biggest disappoints with the last season; the show basically started off as the Olivia show, and then she gets turned into Lyra in the second and third HDM books.

The Banshees of Ed Sheeran (Leee), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:03 (seven months ago) link

yeah it’s a bit disappointing

esp w the September backstory reveal it’s like, ok huh it’s just dudes & dads all the way down then ok good

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:48 (seven months ago) link

Yeah Peter even gets the last shot of the show iirc. Pacey gets a proper arc with closure, Olivia gets multiple soft reboots instead.

Chuck_Tatum, Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:09 (seven months ago) link

i wanted them to do more w Olivia & the Jones/Jared Harris character! their scenes in those early seasons were so electric

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:41 (seven months ago) link

my big takeaway:

these dads just need to grieve for their dead children & stop trying to time travel everytime a kid dies.

also: is it just me or was there some kernel of possibility that David Robert Jones was Olivia’s real father? like a story thread that they may have hinted but never picked up. i was v fixated on the way he said “that’s my girl” after she completed the lightbulb test originally

maybe it’s just me

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 August 2023 05:23 (seven months ago) link

anyway we finished the series

Fringe aka Dads: A Love Story is a very good series & 100% holds up

the worst part of the whole series was Peter turning himself into an Observer but even that wasn’t terrible bc the rest of the story was good. oh and Joshua Jackson’s cry-acting is a bit too much, still bringing the old Dawson’s heat lol

Give John Noble all his flowers, what a blessing he is to the series. Denethor The GOAT.

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 August 2023 05:39 (seven months ago) link

ahaha stone cold classic
RIGHT IN THE FACE

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Thursday, 31 August 2023 14:51 (seven months ago) link

five months pass...

The entire series is on sale in the Apple TV store for $30. Heck of a deal if you don't mind all-digital

Elvis Telecom, Saturday, 3 February 2024 07:26 (two months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Just started back in with this on Max, having stopped midway through season 2. The season 2 episode with Peter Weller as a time traveler, "White Tulip," is fucking incredible. Noble and Weller have a scene together that might be the best thing I've seen, TV or movie, all year.

Tahuti Watches L&O:SVU Reruns Without His Ape (unperson), Monday, 26 February 2024 04:27 (two months ago) link

i love that episode so much, still hits as beautifully as it did the first time

werewolves of laudanum (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, 26 February 2024 04:41 (two months ago) link


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