Donald Trump: Classic or Dud?

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I don't say this to join the doom and gloom brigade -- overall I think these trials are bad for him and good for us sane Americans -- but it is a bit of a bummer that they are going to provide a constant stream of dramatic inflammatory content in the lead up to the election. The chance was pretty slim anyway that the media would have learned any lessons about not feeding the beast, but with all this shit going on that chance drops to 0. And if 2016 taught us anything it's that there's not really such a thing as bad press for this guy. Ah well, nevertheless

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 28 August 2023 17:22 (eight months ago) link

The thing is, the media matter less now; what happens is in the hands of the judges who must watch as Trump exhausts their patience.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:26 (eight months ago) link

Also, swing voters will have had 9 years of being tired of Trump being injected into their veins 24/7

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:29 (eight months ago) link

And if 2016 taught us anything it's that there's not really such a thing as bad press for this guy.

Meanwhile, 2017, 2018, 2019, 2020, 2021, 2022 and 2023 have taught you nothing. But thanks for piping up!

read-only (unperson), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:33 (eight months ago) link

Hey now, like I said, I think these are good developments. I am just bracing myself for his nonstop visage to continue to be everywhere for the foreseeable future. I recognize that was gonna happen anyway, it’s just an unpleasant aspect of the reality we live in, allow me to vent about that unpleasantness

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 28 August 2023 17:39 (eight months ago) link

think of it this way, if somebody came to me to sponsor their youth baseball league, and they already had a decent amount of cash from their other sponsors, but they needed just that last little piece to get them across the finish line to cover operations.

and all of the other sponsors were eager and believed in the brand, whereas I was opportunistic and self-serving - I thought all of the kids and parents in the league were shitty, garbage people, and figured "ehh, the league will probably fold mid-season, for me it's a tax write-off and and I'll build my brand and look like I care about youth, win-win, besides Pony League sucks" and then they preceded to be the worst little shits in the world and at the center of a number of terrible in-town controversies, hurting my brand, and then they somehow made it through the end of the season....

and they come back to me to re-up my sponsorship for the next year, and the other sponsors were still mega enthusiastic but I said "fuck no, not after what happened last time"....

that's basically Trump. he got the outside help he needed in 2016 from a lot of naive, stupid people who don't want any part of him again, and he can't win without them.

I can't turn a fart into a question (Neanderthal), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:44 (eight months ago) link

We already know that Trump's most eager followers have a huge appetite for social destruction, so his crimes matter nothing to them. In this primary phase of the election the main question is whether the less nihilistic, more laissez-faire Republicans continue to wash Trump's feet and dry them with their hair.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Monday, 28 August 2023 17:45 (eight months ago) link

appetite for social destruction

It's so easy.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 28 August 2023 17:59 (eight months ago) link

wash Trump's feet and dry them with their hair.

Ewwwwww

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Monday, 28 August 2023 18:00 (eight months ago) link

Patience is going to be low for antics.

What about hijinks?

Shenanigans?

Tomfoolery?

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 28 August 2023 18:00 (eight months ago) link

What about Our Love to Admire?

Selecting any random set of days from Wikipedia's extensive timeline of the Trump presidency is a reminder that there were like 1,000 forgotten controversies for every one we collectively remember. pic.twitter.com/258CAqF60V

— Alex Seitz-Wald (@aseitzwald) August 30, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:22 (eight months ago) link

see also

https://whatthefuckjusthappenedtoday.com/

out-of-print LaserDisc edition (sleeve), Wednesday, 30 August 2023 18:22 (eight months ago) link

LOL, lock 'em all up Donnie

(Glenn) Beck said: “Do you regret not locking (Clinton) up? And if you’re president again, will you lock people up?”

Trump said: “The answer is you have no choice, because they’re doing it to us.”

Trump has encouraged the “lock her up” chant against other opponents but he remains in considerable danger of being locked up himself.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:13 (eight months ago) link

that's a genuinely deranged question to ask

frogbs, Wednesday, 30 August 2023 23:54 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, I thought Beck had some kind of mea culpa a few years ago, but I guess he's still a kook

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:01 (eight months ago) link

"And if you’re president again, will you lock people up?”
https://townsquare.media/site/295/files/2017/12/macca-farleyv2.jpg?w=980&q=75

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2023 00:05 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, I thought Beck had some kind of mea culpa a few years ago, but I guess he's still a kook

― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, August 30, 2023 8:01 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

he tried rebrand as reasonable but it didnt take, not sure what he was thinking

lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:18 (eight months ago) link

I thought he was going blind. Did he rebrand as sighted?

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 31 August 2023 01:21 (eight months ago) link

He really tried to rebrand? As sensible? Guess I could look this up somewhere.

tobo73, Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:27 (eight months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/GMjnXrt.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:35 (eight months ago) link

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Clay, Thursday, 31 August 2023 02:54 (eight months ago) link

I thought he was going blind. Did he rebrand as sighted?

If only he had lost the power of speech.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Thursday, 31 August 2023 21:22 (eight months ago) link

NEW: Judge says court will allow livestreaming of proceedings in the Georgia election interference case against former Pres. Trump and others. https://t.co/YvoiRiRuxx

— ABC News (@ABC) August 31, 2023

Josh in Chicago, Friday, 1 September 2023 01:41 (eight months ago) link

No doubt in my mind that's the right decision, even though it will be escalate the level of media pundit bloviation, incessant public chatter, and general political tension to nearly unbearable levels.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 1 September 2023 01:47 (eight months ago) link

I think I will wait for the 12" club remix

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 September 2023 01:56 (eight months ago) link

Donnie Goes To Atlantawood

Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 1 September 2023 01:57 (eight months ago) link

Fulton County hearing is now streaming live

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 17:54 (seven months ago) link

Donny NoCash live at Fulton

StanM, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:02 (seven months ago) link

looks like the result of the hearing is that Chesebro and Powell will be tried together starting Oct. 23, it has not been determined whether the other 17 defendants will also be a part of that trial, but the judge said he was skeptical that they should be.

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 20:17 (seven months ago) link

That needs a snappy portmanteau like PoBro or Chesebrowell or CheeseBowel.

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:27 (seven months ago) link

still stunned at Tarrio getting 22 years, I mean no sympathy for that guy obviously but that's pretty harsh. and I think it then follows that Trump himself deserves 2222 years, though I suspect it's probably gonna be 3 months of house arrest at Mar-a-Lago or something. though I guess we've reached such a bizarre point in US History that it seems useless to speculate anything.

frogbs, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:32 (seven months ago) link

oath keeper guy got 18, same ballpark for the masterminds, if the mob had been antifa they wouldve tried to put terrorism charges on ever last person within a mile of the capitol

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:35 (seven months ago) link

as theyre doing now with the anti cop city people in atlanta

lag∞n, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 21:36 (seven months ago) link

no time to go wobbly. in an ideal world tall members of right-wing street-fighting paramilitaires would be liquidated by the dictatorship of the proletariat

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:29 (seven months ago) link

short members, too

deep wubs and tribral rhythms (Boring, Maryland), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:29 (seven months ago) link

His whole 'I can't be a white nationalist, I'm Cuban!' thing never really gained much traction

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:41 (seven months ago) link

I'll admit that I haven't been following the details of who did what but didn't Tarrio plot and attempt a coup? How is 22 years harsh?

Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 22:59 (seven months ago) link

in that trial-streaming image, Asshole is looking more like a gob of suet thrown at the backdrop than usual

assert (matttkkkk), Wednesday, 6 September 2023 23:03 (seven months ago) link

I'll admit that I haven't been following the details of who did what but didn't Tarrio plot and attempt a coup? How is 22 years harsh?

― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Wednesday, September 6, 2023 5:59 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

i'm not really following the details either but was he really the main guy? did this shit really start with the Proud Boys? feel like if that was the case he wouldn't have been out on bail

frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:03 (seven months ago) link

i dont think anyones saying they caused the whole thing but they did make a seditious plot and then carry it out

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:18 (seven months ago) link

yeah, they weren't there to sightsee the capitol

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:20 (seven months ago) link

idk its just seeing these guys actually face serious consequences feels so weird, seems like the only time they face this stuff is when they literally execute a mass shooting. and even then you get to pick up a Whopper™ on your way to jail

frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:22 (seven months ago) link

the government frowns on overrunning their special building

lag∞n, Thursday, 7 September 2023 00:24 (seven months ago) link

This version of democracy is sort of ending, so I don’t know if I’ve got room to have cold feet over 20some years vs 2 or 3

fair but so uncool beliefs here (Eric H.), Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:11 (seven months ago) link

apparently the saudis have, or are about to, execute a dude for tweeting to his eight followers

given the historical punishments, this guy is getting off pretty easy for legit sedition

mookieproof, Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:21 (seven months ago) link

he defense was apparently "i was not in DC on jan 6" which is true, and seems pretty exculpatory until you hear what he did before and on jan 6.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 7 September 2023 02:57 (seven months ago) link

lol yeah I kinda figured if he got that sentence without even being there maybe he really fucked up after all

frogbs, Thursday, 7 September 2023 03:02 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, I mean, like a lot of people online noted, Osama Bin Laden didn't fly the planes, Charles Manson didn't kill any of the Tate-LaBianca victims, etc.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 7 September 2023 12:14 (seven months ago) link


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