Director John Hughes, RIP

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(Still haven't seen Say Anything or Weird Science or Better Off Dead.)

Better Off Dead shits over those other two - and all of Hughes' 80s movies tbh - from a great height. It has none of the problems of Hughes' oeuvre, and all the cleverness and visuals and one-liners

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:36 (fourteen years ago) link

FB is like Star Wars: criticism is beside the point. You feel like a troll pointing stuff out.

His introducing kids to Psychedelic Furs, New Order, OMD, etc, however, is a genuine public service.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

the Pretty in Pink soundtrack is pretty epochal.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:37 (fourteen years ago) link

Also the various posters in FB's room. Cabaret Voltaire! Sisters of Mercy!

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

I rewatched Better Off Dead recently and just found it really dragging in many parts. Great highs, but lots of dull spots. Hughes movies are much better-paced, imo

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

is someone going to rep for Career Opportunities? I remember it was awesome when I was 11 or 12, but haven't seen it since.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Jennifer Connelly is very lovely and leggy in it.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:38 (fourteen years ago) link

Candy deserved an oscar for Planes, Trains.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Also the various posters in FB's room. Cabaret Voltaire! Sisters of Mercy!

Boys and Girls-era Bryan Ferry!

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

The thing is, it's kind of clear that what he digs about her isn't really the act, it's HER. It's also clear that she's pretty unhappy and just wants to be noticed, which is why she responds positively to the makeover in the first place. He, being a popular high school boy, is likely psyched that she is capable of looking like something besides an alienated goth as that removes at least one axis of strain from their high school relationship, plus when she rips the patch off his letter jacket it's kind of clear to him that she is still the quirky spirit that attracted him in the first place.

The way she looks doesn't have as much to do with what's going on between them as much as it does how that will be accepted by the other kids who didn't go through this magic detention session.

btw I have watched "The Breakfast Club" far far FAR too much

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:39 (fourteen years ago) link

Jennifer Connelly is very lovely and leggy in it.

― Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, August 6, 2009 9:38 PM (28 seconds ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

may have been 99 percent of why I liked it.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:40 (fourteen years ago) link

The Sheedy makeover is awesome because it is so 80s and so stereotypically mainstream movie-like. Did you guys want Ferris to do a parade dance to Rock Lobster, too?

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:41 (fourteen years ago) link

Basically, without the Sheedy makeover, Ringwald's prediction about them never speaking to each other again after that day comes true.

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:42 (fourteen years ago) link

I agree that PT&A was his best film. RIP :(

NoTimeBeforeTime, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

You may not be wrong, Dan, but you're projecting a lot of subtext that simply isn't there in Hughes' writing or Estevez's performance.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:43 (fourteen years ago) link

I should rewatch the movie before asserting this but as of now I am convinced that everything aside from the last post I made and the other-kid reaction to the Estevez/Sheedy relationship is explicitly in the movie.

I am over wieght and I have angelical quilities (HI DERE), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link

"may have been 99 percent of why I liked it."

may be 99% of the reason to have ever watched it.

scott seward, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:51 (fourteen years ago) link

christmas vacation is probably my single favorite thing that he was involved with. i mean, he wrote it.

scott seward, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:53 (fourteen years ago) link

Captured the hell of being stuck in the back seat of long, pointless family car trips with only Ramones on a walkman to blank it out. NO GREATER TRUTH HAS EVER BEEN COMMITTED TO FILM.

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:54 (fourteen years ago) link

...and parents singing "Mockingbird."

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

Did you guys want Ferris to do a parade dance to Rock Lobster, too?

I don't know about you, Granny, but Ferris Bueller at the parade always reminds of the autographed photo of Matthew Broderick that Ms. Brubeck had in her office.

jaymc, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:55 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man christmas vacation is hilarious

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

curly sue might be my least fave hughes thing. but, you know, i'll pretty much watch any of them if they are on t.v. dutch and uncle buck have that creepy dad thing in them that always bugs me. dad has to get mean to get the love. uncle buck just has weird shit all through it.

scott seward, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:56 (fourteen years ago) link

she's having a baby. i liked that too. haven't seen that in a zillion years. i vaguely remember that soundtrack too. everything but the girl?

scott seward, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

and kate bush!

scott seward, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

he was pretty great imo, i find all his films pretty entertaining and containing some elements of truth. this may stem from me having grown up in the chicago suburbs, though.

omar little, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:58 (fourteen years ago) link

Oh God, I wanted that huge Microphonies poster in FB's bedroom so badly, and his Fairlight (or Synclavier)

My favourite part of FBDO is Cameron's little shimmy on the rotating kitchen barstool during the call to Rooney,
dunno why, but there's something perfect about that.

MaresNest, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

The scene where Buck knocks all the pots and pans down and then says "SHIT!" made me laugh harder than just about anything I've ever seen. John Candy was a genius.

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:00 (fourteen years ago) link

the weird joke in FBDO that always makes me laugh is cameron in bed, singing to himself "when cameron was in egypt's land" and then the full chorus swelling up for "let my cameron go"

congratulations (n/a), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

haha

omar little, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

The Great Outdoors

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link

Also 'never had one lesson!"

MaresNest, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

my favorite john hughes lol is

"dad, what about you?"

"flip you!"

omar little, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

Annette Benning is so fetching and funny in The Great Outdoors. Her first movie role!

Matt Armstrong, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:04 (fourteen years ago) link

those nat lamp stories are FUCKED UP

im a fucking unicorn you douchebags (forksclovetofu), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

jaymc, i think i've repressed any time spent in Ms. B's office, which wasn't much to begin with.

hope this helps (Granny Dainger), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link

those nat lamp stories are FUCKED UP

yeah that was kinda disturbing - they're vaguely pornographic and not really ... funny? and yet they are deeply reflective of adolescent angst and whatnot

girlish in the worst sense of that term (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:07 (fourteen years ago) link

UNCLE BUCK.

everything else i kinda take or leave. especially the teen movies. but for uncle buck alone he's earned his cloud.

strongohulkingtonsghost, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Love him or hate him, if you were a teen in 1980s Illinois, John Hughes meant something. To think I have not seen a John Hughes movie in years, I have been so negligent.

The Worst Chef in America!! (u s steel), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:12 (fourteen years ago) link

The real genius behind FBDO was Matthew Broderick. Everyone should read the original script to see what a huge asshole Hughes originally made him out to be, and how another another could have completely ruined the movie.

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

another ACTOR

Mr. Snrub, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:13 (fourteen years ago) link

For those talking about JC in Career Opportunities: 1p3 crush thread :-)

ENBB, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

Rogermexico - I had a long drive the other day and listened to the 16 candles sndtrk on repeat. That TT song you linked the youtube to is one of my favorites.

ENBB, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:14 (fourteen years ago) link

The real genius behind FBDO was Matthew Broderick. Everyone should read the original script to see what a huge asshole Hughes originally made him out to be, and how another another could have completely ruined the movie.

Yeah -- Broderick really is a young Reagan in that movie.

Anatomy of a Morbius (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:16 (fourteen years ago) link

So sad about this. RIP.

barry totoro (suzy), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link

that article could have done one better and suggested that while Bueller was a psychopath, Rooney just wanted to pork him ("your ass is mine, bueller!").

da croupier, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:21 (fourteen years ago) link

"I did not achieve this position in life by having some snot-nosed punk leave my cheese out in the wind. "

da croupier, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:23 (fourteen years ago) link

From imdb:

"Although he has been offered the distinguished alumni award from Glenbrook North High School, he has refused it in reflection of his not so great memories of the north shore and the school itself."

da croupier, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:25 (fourteen years ago) link


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