It is now time to fall in love with the King, Felix Hernandez

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Allowing a season-high in walks against one of the most walkingest teams in the majors ain't something to be ashamed of.

It was nice of Sterling to jinx Da Unit's no-no, tho - after the bottom of the 5th, he announces that RJ has a no-hitter, and RJ gratiously allows a double in the 6th. Smooooooooth.

David R. (popshots75`), Thursday, 1 September 2005 04:06 (eighteen years ago) link

Impressive pitcher. I was honestly expecting a Pedro-like whatthefuckit's1999 curvball, so I'm disappointed that it's not god-like and merely excellent.

Jimmy Mod Loves Alan Canseco (The Famous Jimmy Mod), Thursday, 1 September 2005 04:12 (eighteen years ago) link

Were those David Clyde's ashes?

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Thursday, 1 September 2005 12:05 (eighteen years ago) link

I took a bunch of pics of Felix warming up, I'll try to post them here. I was about 20 feet away from him. He looked good through 90 pitches and then his control faded and he had trouble locating anything but his fastball. He escaped a dramatic bases loaded jam.

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 6 September 2005 01:17 (eighteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
No, but I did just pick up Jason "Viva Las" Vargas. Bruce Chen is now for the taking.

-- gygax! (gygax0...), August 22nd, 2005 3:38 PM. (gygax!)

So not only did Bruce Chen outclass King Felix last week, but (as feared) he only lasted 3 innings against the Rangers in Arlington. Can he rebound? I hope so, I took a lot of pix of him in Oakland warming up!

gygax! (gygax!), Tuesday, 20 September 2005 03:30 (eighteen years ago) link

no hitter through six and a third. the ball went off Betancourt's glove but was ruled a hit.

jergins (jergins), Thursday, 22 September 2005 00:02 (eighteen years ago) link

Which just goes to show you how no hitters are team efforts.

Tracer Hand (tracerhand), Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:02 (eighteen years ago) link

I didn't see the whole game, but I was impressed by what I saw (my first time seeing Felix pitch). He had a fastball that would run inside to righties that looked incredible -- great movement, the best you can do is chop it foul or ground out weakly to the left side.

MindInRewind (Barry Bruner), Thursday, 22 September 2005 01:44 (eighteen years ago) link

Felix lost his first career complete game bid with 2 outs in the 9th last night. Finished w/ 114 pitches, 2 runs on 5 hits, 4 walks and a no-decision.

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:17 (eighteen years ago) link

finished w/ 114 pitches

Hmm, how delightfully unnecessary.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:24 (eighteen years ago) link

"It was a fastball, a good pitch," Hernandez said. "It was important to me to stay in the game and go for my first complete game. I'm upset that it didn't happen. No, it doesn't help that it was a good pitch. He (Mench) did a good job and that's all."

gygax! (gygax!), Wednesday, 28 September 2005 23:43 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
What a coincidence, I also took pix of King Felix warming up, enjoy!

http://flickr.com/photos/70149262@N00/sets/72057594085666437/

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Sunday, 19 March 2006 19:11 (eighteen years ago) link

And it begins...

Shin splints will prevent El Rey from missing his last start of the Spring.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 28 March 2006 21:26 (eighteen years ago) link

oh lordy lordy let's all panic

Haikunym (Haikunym), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 01:57 (eighteen years ago) link

I'm loading my shotgun in case shit gets ugly.

David R. (popshots75`), Wednesday, 29 March 2006 13:05 (eighteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
Phil (Honolulu): Hey, any comments on Felix so far?

Rob Neyer: (3:33 PM ET ) Sure: he's fine. He made a couple of lousy pitches last week, and on Sunday he gave up two unearned runs that weren't his fault at all. His strikeout rate is excellent, his control's been okay. He's not going to win any awards this season, but I like him just as much today as I did a month ago.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:47 (eighteen years ago) link

JOHN D COME BACK

TINSTAAPP can eat a dick (popshots75`), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 18:59 (eighteen years ago) link

Some of the more concerning trends in Felix's 2006 peformance to date (vs. LY):

Homeruns vs. Batters Faced:
2005: 1.5% (5/328)
2006: 6.0% (4/67) [The great 2006 home run explosion?]

Pitches per Plate Appearance:
2005: 3.71
2006: 5.97 [Neyer: "his control's been okay". you got that right Robbay!]

BB/9:
2005: 2.45
2006: 3.97 [see above]

Strikeout to Walk ratio:
2005: 3.35
2006: 2.60 [sure his strikeout rate is up but walk rate is up even more]

AVG/OBP/SLG/OPS allowed:
2005: .203/.263/.283/.546
2006: .375/.478/.625/1.103 <=YOWZA! probably the most shocking of all the stats IMO

Groundballs vs. Flyballs:
2005: 149/45 = 3.31
2006: 19/14 = 1.36 [ :_( ]

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:29 (eighteen years ago) link

you have some interesting statistics there, but There Is Such A Thing As Small Sample Size.

is Felix Hernandez your Dontrelle Willis this year, Steve?

Haikunym (Haikunym), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:41 (eighteen years ago) link

He's my Jeff Francis apparently.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 19:55 (eighteen years ago) link

Last year's numbers also represent a small sample size, and there's only so much that can be learned by comparing two small sample sizes with each other. Having said that, we're not talking about small differences there ... his OPS allowed is DOUBLE what it was last year. That's big, even if we're talking about 80 IP (2005) vs 20 IP (2006).

He's not walking too many more batters (maybe one or two more per start compared to last year) but hitters are being a lot more patient with him (taking more pitches) and getting in better swings (hitting more balls in the air). Then again, he's faced some really strong offenses so far this year. Anyway, don't waive him in your fantasy league or anything dumb like that.

NoTimeBeforeTime (Barry Bruner), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 21:38 (eighteen years ago) link

My Steve Francis was thinking that the Padres would win more than 70 games.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Tuesday, 25 April 2006 21:50 (eighteen years ago) link

RotoWire.com
Friday, April 28, 2006
Update: Hernandez's struggles might have something to do with catcher Kenji Johjima's Japanese-style pitch selection, which relies more on offspeed pitches than fastballs, the Seattle Times reports.

Recommendation: "This is a kid who throws 97 [mph], with movement," one scout said. "Why is he throwing the No. 8 hitter a change, curve, change? With his stuff, he can blow guys away. It's the best way, if you can do it. And he can do it." Generally speaking, Hernandez used his curveball as his outpitch last season after first setting up hitters with his fastball. He seems, at times, to be working backward from that formula this year. If that is indeed the case, it is easily corrected.

Total bullshit, but post-worthy.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:12 (eighteen years ago) link

The problem is Kenji has been calling the pitches IN Japanese!

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 28 April 2006 21:54 (eighteen years ago) link

Far too early in the year for me to be concerned yet, especially as I expected a slow start what with the shin splints and such. He's always had better control with his offspeed pitches than the fastballs, but when he's on, he's pretty much as good as anyone in baseball. At 20.

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Sunday, 30 April 2006 05:08 (eighteen years ago) link

More theorizing behind FeHern's latest lackluster start (which did net him first win):

Mariners Notebook: M's look for signs of Felix tipping pitches

Orioles appeared to guess right too many times

By JOHN HICKEY, P-I REPORTER

BALTIMORE -- Is Felix Hernandez tipping his pitches?

The Mariners aren't sure, but they are concerned that opposing hitters may have spotted something to tell what the next pitch is going to be.

The possibility arose during the five innings Hernandez pitched Saturday night in Camden Yards. He gave up four runs and eventually got the win as Seattle rallied for an 8-6 victory. At the same time, he put 13 men on base and was in constant trouble.

"The answer is that we don't know," manager Mike Hargrove said Sunday. "We were talking about that last night. It sure seems like they took a lot of close breaking pitches.

"And they were right on breaking pitches when it wasn't a breaking pitch situation. It got us wondering."

Orioles hitters were right much of the day on fastballs, too, seemingly more than random chance could account for.

Pitching coach Rafael Chaves said that if Hernandez is tipping, it's not something huge. But like at a professional poker table, even a little tip can be a big advantage to the other side.

"I saw some things that had me wondering," Chaves said. "It was nothing so blatant that you could see it right away, nothing where you could say that's the reason why they did so well against him."

Part of the trouble is that the best way to tell if a pitcher is tipping his pitches is from the batter's perspective. You can't see everything from the dugout. And the video of Hernandez from Saturday's game was exclusively from behind him, looking in at the hitter.

"It's easier here in the big leagues for hitters to pick up something the pitcher might be doing," Chaves said, "especially with all the technology available. We'll be looking at whatever we can. I've got some video work ahead of me."

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 1 May 2006 20:45 (eighteen years ago) link

was johjima catching? i know there's been some grumbling about his performance behinf the plate.

jonathan quayle higgins (j.q. higgins), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:00 (eighteen years ago) link

I watched a game earlier this year, and Johjima's catching mechanics were such that he pulled balls out of the strike zone and framed them as balls. It cost the Mariners the game.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Monday, 1 May 2006 21:08 (eighteen years ago) link

was johjima catching?

yes

jergins (jergins), Monday, 1 May 2006 23:46 (eighteen years ago) link

Inspired by one of my fantasy teams:

Felix Hernandez
Wins: 1
Losses: 3
ERA: 5.06
WHIP: 1.61
K: 28
BB: 12

Livan Hernandez
Wins: 1
Losses: 3
ERA: 5.49
WHIP: 1.50
K: 25
BB: 9

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 20:44 (seventeen years ago) link

Matt Cain
Wins: 1
Losses: 3
ERA: 5.28
WHIP: 1.31
K: 22
BB: 10

c(''c) (Leee), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:24 (seventeen years ago) link

Cain and Felix are both killing me this year.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Wednesday, 3 May 2006 23:33 (seventeen years ago) link

Felix actually looks pretty good tonight... this might be his best start of the year.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:40 (seventeen years ago) link

(Yeah, it's Tampa but still...)

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 02:54 (seventeen years ago) link

finally

jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 07:11 (seventeen years ago) link

last week--


Scott (seattle): what's up with felix?

Joe Sheehan: I watched every pitch of his last two starts, because I was wondering about that myself. (Caveat: I Am Not A Scout) As best as I can tell, he's having major location issues both in and out of the zone. So he's falling behind in counts and then catching more of the plate than he wants to. His HR and walk rates are way up; so is his BABIP.

I don't think there's anything permanently wrong with him. His velocity looks fine to me, as does his movement. He's just going through what 20-year-old pitchers--hell, 30-year-old pitchers--sometimes go through.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Wednesday, 10 May 2006 19:10 (seventeen years ago) link

tonight's line ffs:

F. Hernandez (L, 2-5) 4.0 11 10 5 2 4 2

jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 06:04 (seventeen years ago) link

Hey, remember, this is the Mariners. DOOMED TO FAILURE!

ALLAH FROG (Mingus Dew), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 07:10 (seventeen years ago) link

true dat

jergins (jergins), Wednesday, 17 May 2006 15:32 (seventeen years ago) link

He's sandwiched between Tyler Walker and Jose Lima @ #441 in VORP.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Monday, 22 May 2006 16:15 (seventeen years ago) link

I went to the game yesterday and some innings he looked terrible and others fine. People have been saying it's something about his stride. Like he shortened it in the off-season and it's got him all screwed up. Some innings his motion is like last year and smokes, and others he shortens it and loses control, then throws too many fastballs that get sat on.

jergins (jergins), Monday, 22 May 2006 17:31 (seventeen years ago) link

Nate Silver, excerpted from Prospectus:


The three most important indicators in [evaluating FH] are strikeout rate, walk rate, and groundball percentage--and PECOTA has dead-on nailed Hernandez’ performance in each of those categories. The key differences are in the number of base hits that he’s given up, and the number of home runs.

Hernandez' BABIP on the season to date is .359. That’s the sixth-worst performance in the league among pitchers with at least 40 innings pitched. Although groundball pitchers give up a few extra base hits, that performance is way out of line with what we’d expect out of Hernandez, and almost certainly reflects his bad luck. It’s not like Hernandez is a Carlos Silva type who throws meatballs and telegraphs his pitches.

The inflated home run rate is a bit more of a concern--Hernandez is at nine home runs and counting before Memorial Day, when PECOTA projected him to give up just 11 on the entire season. But it’s much less of a concern than it would be if Hernandez’ groundball ratio had deteriorated with his dinger tally...

What does all of this mean? Well, it means that Hernandez is behaving like a 20-year-old pitcher with all of five months of big league experience to his name. I think opponents are reading the scouting reports and recognizing that, while Hernandez is not averse to throwing breaking balls early in the count, he rarely throws them for strikes. I think Hernandez has such great stuff that he’s never had to make many adjustments. And I think he and Rafael Chaves will sooner or later come up with the necessary counter-adjustments, whether it means making his slider a bit more of a strike pitch, throwing more first-pitch fastballs, or something else.

In short, I think Felix Hernandez is going to be fine...If [he] were a stock, his share price might have declined by six or eight percent since the start of the season--not more than that. No, I wouldn’t trade Felix Hernandez for Cole Hamels. Justin Verlander--that might be a different story.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:37 (seventeen years ago) link

PECOTA "nailed" his BB rate to jump +56% and his groundball rate to drop -33%?

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 26 May 2006 16:44 (seventeen years ago) link

I can't do tables, damn you.


Stat / Actual / PECOTA
BB / 9.1% / 9.1%
K / 22.0% / 21.7%
GB% / 69.1% / 66.7%

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:09 (seventeen years ago) link

Anthony (Long Island): Yesterday, your column listed Felix Hernandez's GB% as 69.1%. The Hardball Times has it at 54.2%. I understand there are probably minor differences in how you calculate the figure, but that is a huge difference. So which number is right?

Nate Silver: The figure I used was extrapolated from ESPN.com. ESPN lists only two times of outcomes: groundballs and flyballs.

Hardball Times lists four types of outcomes: GB, FB, popups, and linedrives.

Neither method is inherently "right", but the Hardball Times method (and we used something similar in BP2006) will result in systamatically lower GB percentages.

Dr Morbius (Dr Morbius), Friday, 26 May 2006 17:21 (seventeen years ago) link

Well I guess BP already forecasted his regression.

"Kudos", as TDeLong might utter.

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Friday, 26 May 2006 18:07 (seventeen years ago) link

2005 vs. 2006:
GS: 12 : 11
W: 4 : 4
L: 4 : 6
IP: 84.1 : 62.1
HR: 5 : 11
BB: 23 : 23
K: 77 : 63
ERA: 2.67 : 5.78
WHIP: 1.00 : 1.54

Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Wednesday, 31 May 2006 21:21 (seventeen years ago) link

King Felix, I hardly knew ye. Dropped from my fantasy team after reaping me -9 points.

Stuh-du-du-du-du-du-du-denka (jingleberries), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:34 (seventeen years ago) link

Dropped from my fantasy team

Hope you're in like an 8 team, non-keeper league.

polyphonic (polyphonic), Thursday, 1 June 2006 22:59 (seventeen years ago) link

I hope you're in ILBB.

Thermo Thinwall (Thermo Thinwall), Friday, 2 June 2006 02:24 (seventeen years ago) link


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