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Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 14 January 2005 06:14 (nineteen years ago) link

SEVENTEEN SECONDS (1980) / FAITH (1981) / PORNOGRAPHY (1982)

TRACK DETAILS
OF THE NEXT ROUND OF RE-MASTERED RE-RELEASES - OUT IN APRIL...

THE CURE
SEVENTEEN SECONDS
2 CD SET
COMPILED BY ROBERT SMITH

Digitally Remastered from the
Original Master Tapes

Features 15 tracks on CD for the very first time

Deluxe package contains a 20 page booklet
including sleevenotes and lyrics
with rare and previously unseen photographs

SEVENTEEN SECONDS: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM

01. A REFLECTION
02. PLAY FOR TODAY
03. SECRETS
04. IN YOUR HOUSE
05. THREE
06. THE FINAL SOUND
07. A FOREST
08. M
09. AT NIGHT
10. SEVENTEEN SECONDS

SEVENTEEN SECONDS: RARITIES 1979-1980

01. I'M A CULT HERO (vinyl single by CULT HERO)
02. I DIG YOU (vinyl single by CULT HERO)
03. ANOTHER JOURNEY BY TRAIN (home demo)
04. SECRETS (home demo)
05. SEVENTEEN SECONDS (live)
06. IN YOUR HOUSE (live)
07. THREE (alt studio mix)
08. I DIG YOU (CULT HERO live)
09. I'M A CULT HERO (CULT HERO live)
10. M (live)
11. THE FINAL SOUND (live)
12. A REFLECTION (live)
13. PLAY FOR TODAY (live)
14. AT NIGHT (live)
15. A FOREST (live)

*****

THE CURE
FAITH
2 CD SET
COMPILED BY ROBERT SMITH

Digitally Remastered from the
Original Master Tapes

Features 4 previously unreleased songs
and 15 tracks on CD for the very first time

Deluxe package contains a 20 page booklet
including sleevenotes and lyrics
with rare and previously unseen photographs

FAITH: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM

01. THE HOLY HOUR
02. PRIMARY
03. OTHER VOICES
04. ALL CATS ARE GREY
05. THE FUNERAL PARTY
06. DOUBT
07. THE DROWNING MAN
08. FAITH

09. CARNAGE VISORS

FAITH: RARITIES 1980-1981

01. FAITH (RS home demo)
02. DOUBT (RS home demo)
03. DROWNING (group home demo)
04. THE HOLY HOUR (group home demo)
05. PRIMARY (studio out-take)
06. GOING HOME TIME (studio out-take)
07.THE VIOLIN SONG (studio out-take)
08. A NORMAL STORY (studio out-take)
09. ALL CATS ARE GREY (live)
10. THE FUNERAL PARTY (live)
11. OTHER VOICES (live)
12. THE DROWNING MAN (live)
13. FAITH (live)
14. FOREVER (live)
15. CHARLOTTE SOMETIMES (single)

*****

THE CURE
PORNOGRAPHY
2 CD SET
COMPILED BY ROBERT SMITH

Digitally Remastered from the
Original Master Tapes

Features 5 previously unreleased songs
and 14 tracks on CD for the very first time

Deluxe package contains a 20 page booklet including
sleevenotes with rare and previously unseen photographs

PORNOGRAPHY: THE ORIGINAL ALBUM

01. ONE HUNDRED YEARS
02. A SHORT TERM EFFECT
03. THE HANGING GARDEN
04. SIAMESE TWINS
05. THE FIGUREHEAD
06. A STRANGE DAY
07. COLD
08. PORNOGRAPHY

PORNOGRAPHY: RARITIES 1981-1982

01. BREAK (group home demo)
02. DEMISE (studio demo)
03.TEMPTATION (studio demo)
04. THE FIGUREHEAD (studio demo)
05. THE HANGING GARDEN (studio demo)
06. ONE HUNDRED YEARS (studio demo)
07. AIRLOCK: THE SOUNDTRACK
08. COLD (live)
09. A STRANGE DAY (live)
10. PORNOGRAPHY (live)
11. ALL MINE (live)
12. A SHORT TERM EFFECT (live)
13. SIAMESE TWINS (live)
14. TEMPTATION TWO (aka lgtb) (RS studio demo)

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 27 January 2005 09:06 (nineteen years ago) link

Looks like the 'Boys Don't Cry' question has been answered then.

I wasn't sure what they'd do with these three, whether they might come out as a box on their own, but they all look pretty essential.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 January 2005 11:01 (nineteen years ago) link

How horrible these look! Dan and I shall not be buying them immediately on release.

(A more serious question -- hm, no Carnage Visors, then.)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:02 (nineteen years ago) link

Carnage Visors - Faith Disc 1 track 9.

It was the first thing I looked for too, Bizarro Ned.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:07 (nineteen years ago) link

Ah! I completely missed that, I thought it would have been on the second disc for some reason, skipped right over it. Good, then all is well. :-)

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:10 (nineteen years ago) link

There needs to be more space on disc 2 for home demos. If any of them are half as good as the version of 10:15 Saturday Night on the 3IB second disc then we shall be very lucky indeed.

aldo_cowpat (aldo_cowpat), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:17 (nineteen years ago) link

Too many home demos. Why does anyone want to hear home demos?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:23 (nineteen years ago) link

Hmm, I was hoping for more studio out takes rather than live stuff. The Faith and Pornography reissues look very interesting though

flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:30 (nineteen years ago) link

Yeah I was also hoping they'd uncover unreleased gems of that era rather than putting out live stuff, but anyway...
Not sure I'll be getting the 17sec one (well not right away, who am I kidding...)

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:34 (nineteen years ago) link

Too many home demos. Why does anyone want to hear home demos?

Because you end up with things like that dirgey "10:15 Saturday Night".

April has never been further away.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 14:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Why does anyone want to hear home demos?

What Dan said. The various Cure demos I've heard via bootleg or mp3 over the years are really something, whether home or not, while that never heard before "10:15" was just wondrous. Demos for The Top and The Head on the Door = yow!

Hmm, I was hoping for more studio out takes rather than live stuff.

But I can't wait for that! Certainly I've collected enough live shows from that time by now but they were *so freakin' good* at that time -- not that they weren't later either, but my goodness were they on fire.

April has never been further away.

Yes indeed.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:18 (nineteen years ago) link

As much as I've loved the live shows I've seen (and I really really have), the best live recording I've heard is a 1980 bootleg.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:28 (nineteen years ago) link

You got that Australian show?

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:43 (nineteen years ago) link

I have a pretty special live bootleg from the Faith Tour (strasberg?) Good and different versions of a Forest and M.

flowersdie (flowersdie), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:46 (nineteen years ago) link

I don't think the boot I have is Australian and I don't have it with me to check; I want to say it was from Brussels?

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:48 (nineteen years ago) link

Thanks to That New Hub Thing we have, I was able to get a couple of early eighties shows from Teeny the other day. Yay!

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:50 (nineteen years ago) link

One of my fave is the Cornwall 1983 show, one of the few of that era, where you'd get them oscillate wildly between the Pornography material and their new sound.

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Thursday, 27 January 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

"april has never been further away" thirded!

it's tricky (disco stu), Thursday, 27 January 2005 23:56 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
OK, boys and girls, time to start saving up - April 26th is the release date for those three albums...

Baaderonixxx le Jeune (Fabfunk), Friday, 11 February 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

26th? ARGH. WHY NOT START OF APRIL. That's almost a whole extra month. :-(

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:36 (nineteen years ago) link

3 albums = Pornography, Seventeen Seconds, & .... ?

(Confession: I bought the first re-issue, but have yet to listen to it. SHAME.)

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:37 (nineteen years ago) link

Faith, you forgetful feeb. But I love you.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:38 (nineteen years ago) link

Dude, I know sweet FA about the Cure. Be happy I knew the first two! (& let's cuddle!)

David R. (popshots75`), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:49 (nineteen years ago) link

WUV.

The order of release was 17, Faith and Pornography, and generally have been grouped as a somewhat unintentional trio by Us Cure Freaks in that after the first album and singles they helped to codify 'goth' Cure as such, getting progressively unsettling and disturbing but each with their own particular aura -- none of the albums really resembles each other while all at the same time still feeling part of a continuum. That the next Cure efforts were the pop bounceback singles "Let's Go to Bed"/"The Walk"/"The Lovecats" underscores Pornography as being the end point of that period.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:52 (nineteen years ago) link

Ohhhh, I feel a bit faint, unheard of 17/Faith era tunes, group demos etc: Carnage in decent quality, that live Faith B-side, yay.

If anyone wants any early live Cure send us a mail.

mzui (mzui), Friday, 11 February 2005 15:57 (nineteen years ago) link

Oh my God, the legendary "A Normal Story" surfaces! [i]17 Seconds[/i] xtras are a bit skint (live, live, live, live, live), but given that I expected slim pickings on all the reissues, I can't complain.

"Charlotte Sometimes" relegated to bonus disc-status shocka.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:00 (nineteen years ago) link

a bonus disc is really the only place it belongs though. the first time it ever came out on cd was for standing on a beach right? maybe it was on happily ever after. i don't remember.

it's tricky (disco stu), Friday, 11 February 2005 20:06 (nineteen years ago) link

It was only on Staring at the Sea, and it wasn't their biggest hit to begni with, but it was a proper single and they've played it live, constantly, since it was released. I know Smith hates the mix and it was the breaking point with Hedges, but there's something about burying a real single at the ass-end of a rarities disc that's unnatural to me.

Chris Ott (Chris Ott), Friday, 11 February 2005 21:09 (nineteen years ago) link

two weeks pass...
06. GOING HOME TIME (studio out-take)
Even though it's on the Faith re-issue, I imagine it's safe to assume this is a demo of "One Hundred Years". (I wonder the "studio demo" of it on the Pornography re-issue is the version on the Fast Forward cassette. I hope so!)

Ian Riese-Moraine (Eastern Mantra), Thursday, 3 March 2005 22:16 (nineteen years ago) link

three weeks pass...
I just got my um "evaluation" copies of the three. I'm not even a hardcore Cure fan, but I'm peeing my pants right now listening to these.

donut debonair (donut), Saturday, 26 March 2005 05:44 (nineteen years ago) link

So how's the "evaluation" going??

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:49 (nineteen years ago) link

I hate you, Donut Debonair < / Red Meat little girl voice >

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Okay, that's it, I'm ordering these from Ideal Copy RIGHT NOW.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:51 (nineteen years ago) link

Hahahah! I was just thinking that myself, m'friend. (But there's also the Adam Ant reissues and the Fall box and ARGH WHAT A GREAT/EXPENSIVE TIME TO BE ALIVE).

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

ORDER PLACED APRIL 26 CAN'T ARRIVE SOON ENOUGH

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:55 (nineteen years ago) link

I am shaking my finger sternly at the calendar and shouting "HURRY UP I WANT MY FUCKING POSTER".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Friday, 1 April 2005 13:58 (nineteen years ago) link

Hah. I want a photo of you in front of the poster with your eyes bugging out Urkel-style. Or something.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Friday, 1 April 2005 14:37 (nineteen years ago) link

**Too many home demos. Why does anyone want to hear home demos?
Because you end up with things like that dirgey "10:15 Saturday Night".

April has never been further away.

-- The Ghost of Dan Perry (djperr...), January 27th, 2005.**

I finally listened to this properly, and you absolutely right, Dan - the 10:15 Sat Night demo is absolutely fantastic. Whyowhyowhy didn't they use keyboards and this tempo on the released version?

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:34 (nineteen years ago) link

:-) And thus happiness is at last had.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

(xpost) I have no idea! I mean, I really like the version that they released but WOW THAT DEMO VERSION!!!!!!!!

It's kind of like how "Two People" >>>>>>> "In Your House", even though I really like "In Your House".

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 April 2005 13:38 (nineteen years ago) link

"Two People"? Tell me more.

I've been arguing a similar case regarding the demo version of "The Big Hand", which just blows away the studio one.

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:03 (nineteen years ago) link

I just listened to it again - it *is* fuckin' great. A slight problem though : I can't help mentally superimposing Lol's drunken semi-rolls in the places where they come on the 'real' version.

Another great track on the 3IB reissue is Play With Me.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:06 (nineteen years ago) link

"Two People" is the original version of "In Your House"; there's a live version of it on the Curiosity side of the Concert cassette which is, well, godly. It's the same music but substantially different lyrics, kind of like "Desperate Journalist"/"Grinding Halt" only with all punchability removed.

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:08 (nineteen years ago) link

I keep forgetting that I don't like The Cure much. But I do think they sound much more *alive* in these early small-scale tracks, rather than the bluster of late 80s onwards.

Dr. C (Dr. C), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:09 (nineteen years ago) link

AH yes, that's what I thought. Didn't know it was titled "Two People", though.

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:18 (nineteen years ago) link

You can now hear clips of all three new remasters on the Rhino website.

Baaderonixxxorzh (Fabfunk), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:25 (nineteen years ago) link

!!!!!!!!!!!

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:26 (nineteen years ago) link

OH MY GOD OH MY GOD WHY CAN'T IT BE THE 26TH NOW

The Ghost of Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:33 (nineteen years ago) link

Hearing even clips early would ruin the anticipation. I will await the day.

Ned Raggett (Ned), Thursday, 7 April 2005 14:40 (nineteen years ago) link


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