Taking Sides: Mayhem v. Burzum

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Indeed, one more death in the wheel of meat that is existence, what of it?

Of course Euro was gay and deserve to die. Also he jilt Varg, in whom he had relationship, it was lovers argument that went horribly wrong. As spurned lover was Varg. They argue over cover art, so I am to hear from true sources. Euro desire to depict pig vomiting blood, Varg think this is too trendy.

Jann Karlsson, Friday, 7 January 2005 08:09 (nineteen years ago) link

one year passes...
I think its stupid to discuss whats best and whats not. I dig some parts and riffs from Mayhem and some from Burzum. There is no "best".

About Varg and his opinions, who cares? Just like like satanism....it has nothing to do with the music. Music is music.

Stephen Furubotn Flannagan, Monday, 10 April 2006 21:17 (eighteen years ago) link

the Varg Vikernes response to Lords of Chaos would be much funnier if, at the top, it said: "Rating: 4.3"

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 11:27 (eighteen years ago) link

Vargs due for release soon isn't he? And Mayhem have reunited.

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 11:59 (eighteen years ago) link

This thread is delightful.

PS Byzantum rules

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:20 (eighteen years ago) link

Mayhem are playing BB Kings in New York soon. I find this hilarious.

PeopleFunnyBoy (PeopleFunnyBoy), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:33 (eighteen years ago) link

It would be cool if they invited BB up on stage to join for a number - maybe "Buried by Time and Dust"?

Edward III (edward iii), Tuesday, 11 April 2006 13:45 (eighteen years ago) link

five months pass...
Is Varg out yet?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 18:35 (seventeen years ago) link

His parole was denied in June and postponed until August 2008, according to wikipedia.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 18:40 (seventeen years ago) link

er... April 2008.

StanM (StanM), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 18:42 (seventeen years ago) link

Murder over petty bullshit pertaining to a small, insular music scene most people don't care about is so completely emo. Varg is an utter idiot, but the first few Burzum records are pretty monumental.

helmut was a krautrocker (helmut was a krautrocker), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 18:57 (seventeen years ago) link

Burzum, in all ways.

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:22 (seventeen years ago) link

There was something in this months Terrorizer about Mayhem being in trouble with swedish authorities because they broke animal by-product regulations due to the stage being adorned with pigs heads and other animal parts.
Then it goes on to tell you that Atilla is a vegetarian. I chuckled at that.

Didn't one of their fans once get knocked out by a flying pigs head at a gig a few years back?

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:24 (seventeen years ago) link

yes, their skull was fractured.

mayhem played in sweden?

RoxyMuzak© (roxymuzak), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:26 (seventeen years ago) link

ahh it was a SHEEPS HEAD

Brigadier Lethbridge-Pfunkboy (Kerr), Tuesday, 19 September 2006 19:31 (seventeen years ago) link

one month passes...
It took me years to read 'Lords of Chaos,' and, in turn, search Burzum on ILM, but man am I glad. This thread is a riot.

(Incidentally, nobody ever gave 'The Dowager Grisnacht(mrsv@metalmommas.com)' or 'PeopleFunnyBoy (asanisimasa2005@yahoo.com)' much deserved ROFL credit for their respective 'Dear Vargy' and 'Varg Pitchfork Review' jokes upthread).

Tiki Theater Xymposium (Bent Over at the Arclight), Wednesday, 25 October 2006 10:54 (seventeen years ago) link

This thread is great; I wish ILX was still sending me alerts when people post to it.

TEH EVIL VICAR (dirtyvicar), Thursday, 26 October 2006 08:48 (seventeen years ago) link

i listen to 'a grand declaration of war' every now and again. it's deeply flawed, but musically diverse and interesting.

i like the rawness of the 'live in leipzig' record as well

and that 'de mysteriis dom sathanas' record has 'from the dark past' which is classic

i never really got into burzum

so, i'll side with mayhem

Charlie Howard (the sphinx), Thursday, 26 October 2006 12:30 (seventeen years ago) link

ho ho ho hihihi as they will be saying. it as as a corpse to flies you follish americans. haven't to be mentioning the corpse has been in a polish coffin for many years. the flies must be underground and stupid and some generation old i think. and still o this o that. silly cants. its over.

Sami Jheryllkanyga (alicereed), Thursday, 26 October 2006 12:41 (seventeen years ago) link

I just misread this as Marilyn vs. Burzum.

http://www.geocities.com/les_girlettes/boymaz00.JPG

Alex in NYC (vassifer), Friday, 27 October 2006 16:26 (seventeen years ago) link

magic

alicer (alicereed), Saturday, 28 October 2006 06:36 (seventeen years ago) link

eleven months pass...

Indeed, one more death in the wheel of meat that is existence, what of it?
Of course Euro was gay and deserve to die. Also he jilt Varg, in whom he had relationship, it was lovers argument that went horribly wrong. As spurned lover was Varg. They argue over cover art, so I am to hear from true sources. Euro desire to depict pig vomiting blood, Varg think this is too trendy.

Great post.

31g, Monday, 8 October 2007 00:31 (sixteen years ago) link

Why is it all you people do is complain bunch of bickering women non sense!

J0hn D., Monday, 8 October 2007 00:52 (sixteen years ago) link

My verdict: Varg Vikernes is responsible for black metal to became trendy, something that I strongly detest!

-- mortifer, Sunday, September 30, 2001 8:00 PM (6 years ago)

xD

am0n, Monday, 8 October 2007 01:39 (sixteen years ago) link

I wish Vikernes talked like a pro wrestler about himself: "What the Count thinks is that Norweigan culture has a purity to it that needs to be preserved, and that's all the Count has to say about that!" And a punch line by which to indicate that he's finished with his thought, like "Black metal....brother!" or maybe "Soul power!"

Troll power! Although I once saw him suddenly denouncing all trolls and elves.

roxymuzak, Monday, 8 October 2007 03:06 (sixteen years ago) link

Murder over petty bullshit pertaining to a small, insular music scene most people don't care about is so completely emo. Varg is an utter idiot, but the first few Burzum records are pretty monumental.

-- helmut was a krautrocker (helmut was a krautrocker), Tuesday, September 19, 2006 6:57 PM

^^ that

BIG HOOS aka the steendriver, Monday, 8 October 2007 03:14 (sixteen years ago) link

there's also a great name for mersh black metal upthread that I hadn't seen before: "pinkmetal"

Ordo ad Chao is too good not to demand some response from Varg I'd guess

J0hn D., Monday, 8 October 2007 03:31 (sixteen years ago) link

While I don't agree that Varg is an idiot, he has certainly done a ton of extremely retarded shit. Does this take one ounce of shine off Filosofem for me? Absolutely not.

roxymuzak, Monday, 8 October 2007 04:07 (sixteen years ago) link

two months pass...

No, it is definite that he has intelligence. However, who brags on the number of amplifiers they are hauling, as if your album is now better for it? I am tired of hearing this discussed, for Filosofem. >_<

Pål Útlendi, Tuesday, 1 January 2008 08:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Regarding trendiness. I find it is trendy now to be anti-trendy for sure. Also, sadly, it is trendy to be trendy to be ani-trendy. This is most regrettable development. For clear example, one need only look at black metal message boards, where people wish each other Merry Xmas! Even if this is so-called irony, I blacken their names each in my heart.

-- Janne Karlsson, Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:39 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

indeed there is nthing that is not blackened and made bleaker by seriousness.

-- Mr. Vas Djifrens (byzantum), Thursday, December 30, 2004 11:49 PM (3 years ago) Bookmark Link

latebloomer, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 00:35 (sixteen years ago) link

"I could go on and on exemplifying how ludicrous this book and the theories of the authors really are, but I have better things to do." - Varg

Yeah, like making license plates?

Anyway, I have always liked Mayhem (maybe my 10th or 15th favorite black metal band), never bought Burzum (though I've heard and liked Filosofem). I just never wanted to give that guy any of my money. It's the same reason I own all the Emperor albums except for ITNSE. But now that I know that Varg owes Norway 33 million Kroner, I think I could safely buy some of his records and know that the money was going to build new churches and support the Jews after all.

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 06:21 (sixteen years ago) link

that Burzum record sales are funding church building is the best thing ever.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:12 (sixteen years ago) link

For the record, the above is an assumption. But it's a funny idea if it's true!

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 15:33 (sixteen years ago) link

Please! Vikernes will not be paying even 50 øre, probably.

Pål Útlendi, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:04 (sixteen years ago) link

How could he legally avoid it?

Nate Carson, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:13 (sixteen years ago) link

Think: what is to happen if he is not paying it? Go to jail? >_<

Pål Útlendi, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 16:22 (sixteen years ago) link

Nerrrr, they just take the money out of the royalties from his record sales, before he sees them. HA HA VARG U R Christian Church funder.

The Real Dirty Vicar, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:20 (sixteen years ago) link

Hihi, yes, he is selling so many of "Dauði Baldrs." As I was saying, 50 øre as a top estimate.

Pål Útlendi, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:23 (sixteen years ago) link

"Illa Tiðandi" - uff da, real top ten single. XD

You see what I am meaning, though!

Pål Útlendi, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:25 (sixteen years ago) link

talkative sockpuppet is talkative

J0hn D., Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:30 (sixteen years ago) link

Ok!

Pål Útlendi, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:41 (sixteen years ago) link

Also, about the Einsatzgruppen arrested with (and other thing) 100,000kr, attempting collection of Vikernes from prison? Money supposed from his mother "Lene?"

He is not to be paying this, in some way. Sure.

Pål Útlendi, Wednesday, 2 January 2008 17:51 (sixteen years ago) link

four months pass...

ordo ad chao is the best mayhem record. sets a mood on the first track and remains compelling throughout each and every song. i always used to question the musical competency and integrity of this band, in particular its ability to create consistently focused and well-constructed songs. but this album is brilliant and extremely listenable. something i can't say about any of the others really. well maybe bits and pieces of the others.

Charlie Howard, Wednesday, 14 May 2008 17:15 (fifteen years ago) link

What's wrong with De Mysteriis then? Pretty consistent and focused.

Siegbran, Thursday, 15 May 2008 15:08 (fifteen years ago) link

i guess i never really took to it so much. but you are right in identifying that era as one where the band were totally inspired and onsong. also 'from the dark past' is an incredible song, both on record and live. i guess my judgment is pretty heavily influenced by the maniac-led phase which never really seemed to stumble on anything really poignant and representative of the potential of the band.

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 15 May 2008 15:30 (fifteen years ago) link

Musically speaking, was Count Grisnakh of Burzum right to murder Euronymous of Mayhem?

wowwwwww that is undoubtedly the greatest first line of any thread ever!!!

chinchillas they can fit on gorillas, Thursday, 15 May 2008 15:32 (fifteen years ago) link

it's not like garm battered euronymous to death with a big, novelty-sized styrofoam treble clef

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 15 May 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

shit not garm. varg

Charlie Howard, Thursday, 15 May 2008 15:35 (fifteen years ago) link

Musically speaking, the world would undoubtedly be better off if Garm would've been incarcerated for the last fifteen years instead of Varg.

Siegbran, Friday, 16 May 2008 10:09 (fifteen years ago) link

one year passes...

this thread was gold

pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 26 July 2009 13:09 (fourteen years ago) link


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