SB 51: the California politics thread

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No matter what the outcome, I am ready to vote on this in November.

vote on what now? what's on the ballot that would address this?

housing at Cal has always, always been bad. I started there in 1990 and was told it was a longshot to get housing (I lived at home and commuted, which was a mistake for multiple reasons; wound up getting an apartment a year later). Cal admits entirely too many students these days, IMO, given their lack of housing. They need to build more but I frankly think they will always find a way to admit more than they can house regardless of how much they build.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 18 August 2023 01:53 (eight months ago) link

santa cruz is even worse, from what I understand.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 18 August 2023 01:54 (eight months ago) link

As in, I was agreeing with you, tlg— that caek’s post made it out as tho it was unseemly for students to be living out of cars or storage units when so many people live that was is what I was objecting to. No one should have to live like that, I know because I fucking did it.

butt dumb tight my boners got boners (the table is the table), Friday, 18 August 2023 01:56 (eight months ago) link

yeah those people are shitheads. also I don't know that they really want to live in a college town. they maybe think they do, but they don't.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 18 August 2023 02:00 (eight months ago) link

anywhere can be a college town if you just act like you’re in college, duh look at guerneville

the late great, Friday, 18 August 2023 02:01 (eight months ago) link

spring break twelve months of the year

the late great, Friday, 18 August 2023 02:02 (eight months ago) link

their tuition is $3500 and tuition plus dorm lodging is $4100

what???? it doesn't say tuition is $3500 unless I missed something. tuition at UC is quite a bit higher than that even for in-state.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 18 August 2023 02:05 (eight months ago) link

worth noting that one of the major NIMBY assholes in Berkeley is Robert Reich.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 18 August 2023 02:05 (eight months ago) link

it was in the reddit thread?? idk all my kids get free rides basically

the late great, Friday, 18 August 2023 02:06 (eight months ago) link

In state tuition to berkeley is 14k/yr. The poster said their sponsor paid the tuition. I'm not sure who their sponsor is and why they didn't also agree to pay for housing, that doesn't seem like a very good sponsor to me.

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 18 August 2023 02:14 (eight months ago) link

I think you saw this: "The cost for a full UC meal plan is $3,535. Is that what your sponsor is paying? The cost for one semester room and board in the coops is $4,131"

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 18 August 2023 02:17 (eight months ago) link

ohhh thx. yes i misread that

the late great, Friday, 18 August 2023 02:32 (eight months ago) link

BTW, calling out NIMBYs should not absolve the UC from decades of dereliction when it comes to building student housing. It's not just Berkeley:
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2023-03-14/fixing-californias-student-housing-crisis-faces-roadblocks

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 August 2023 02:42 (eight months ago) link

Why hasn’t UC Berkeley built more student housing? (good historical background - not just Berkeley, but the UC in general)

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 August 2023 02:47 (eight months ago) link

Of course no one should have to live like this, regardless of GPA or whatever.

And if the specifics of the reddit thread are bothering you then read the thing I linked about UCLA students living in their cars.

My point is not that these people _in particular_ should not be homeless. It’s that things have gotten so fucked up that some of the otherwise most privileged people in the richest state in the country are living in cars and storage units.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 August 2023 04:26 (eight months ago) link

santa cruz is even worse, from what I understand.

― I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Thursday, August 17, 2023 9:54 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

https://darrellowens.substack.com/p/santa-cruz-is-a-housing-nightmare

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Friday, 18 August 2023 04:27 (eight months ago) link

yeah that's where I first read about it (followed him on twitter, when I was still on twitter)

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Friday, 18 August 2023 05:57 (eight months ago) link

i think santa cruz is only "worse" in the sense that people go there not expecting to commute from like Salinas or Hollister ... whereas people I know who went to UCSD and UCLA and even Berkeley were more prepared to commute.

sarahell, Friday, 18 August 2023 07:36 (eight months ago) link

I wondered whatever happened to that proposed Dormzilla project at UCSB, and thankfully it's dead.
https://therealdeal.com/la/2023/08/08/ucsb-wants-to-replace-charlie-mungers-dorm-design/

Elvis Telecom, Friday, 18 August 2023 10:53 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

yeah that guy is a POS

I? not I! He! He! HIM! (akm), Monday, 25 September 2023 00:00 (seven months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Can't wait for more of this genius at work -- Steve Garvey confirms he's running for Senate and says things like this:

He was less anxious to touch base with what may be one of his political liabilities: his personal life. His Mr. Clean image took a hit shortly after he left baseball, when news broke that he fathered two children with different women before marrying a third, his current wife, Candace.

“You know, Joe, life is a journey,” Garvey told me. “We all go through chapters in our lives. That was back in a transitional period. I don’t talk about my family or history. People will judge me as to who I am in 2024. I pray for my children and my family every day.”

Ned Raggett, Tuesday, 10 October 2023 17:36 (six months ago) link

four months pass...

"Release the tapes!"

How many mispredictions can you spot? https://t.co/IaH8k4Cnjk pic.twitter.com/N7q4TlTmlK

— Common Ground California (@CACommonGround) February 14, 2024

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 14 February 2024 04:40 (two months ago) link


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