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Great post, birdistheword. I’ve weirdly only heard the 2020 remix, which I generally like. The one or two songs I’ve heard in the original mix (“Stage Fright” and “The Shape I’m In”) always sounded claustrophobic and cluttered to me. The Clearmountain mix opens things up.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Thursday, 17 August 2023 11:36 (eight months ago) link

yeah I've only heard the 2020 as well and love it. I recall RR changed the running order to more accurately reflect his vision of the album

lord of the rongs (anagram), Thursday, 17 August 2023 12:32 (eight months ago) link

Thanks James, and apologies forgot to circle back! They packaged a great show with the 2020 remix so at minimum the 2CD version is worth it for that. There's a lot of compression on that CD, which may or may not be baked into the new mix, and it has a lot of characteristics typically found in Clearmountain's mixes so it was kind of jarring to hear: it really sounds like something mixed in 2020 than, say, 1970. He applies quite a bit of reverb, like on "The Rumor" and I think on Danko's entire vocal for the title track - he's kind of known for his wide array of "echoes" and I think he even has a plugin based on them. That part I'm not so sure about as it's not to my preference but it was Robertson's call whether or not to have that. Compression aside, he does a great job of balancing the instruments so everything does come together nicely. He doesn't always use the same approach for every song - he clearly knows what to focus on. (On "Sleeping," Manuel's vocal sounds very present while everything else is brought down, much moreso than past mixes.) Tough call on Robertson's new sequence because "Sleeping" does make a great closer, better than "The Rumor"...on the other hand, I don't think "The Rumor" really works as well anywhere else. I don't think anything was wrong withe original sequence so that's my preference, but FWIW Greil Marcus much prefers the new sequence.

I'll also say that Clearmountain did a far better job mixing the live Academy album (i.e. Rock of Ages) than what was originally released, and he also did better than the remixes Andrew Sandoval made for A Musical History. However, I also prefer the "soundboard mix" Sebastian Robertson made of the New Year's show - it feels more apiece with the first two albums. I can also see it getting rejected for being too natural-sounding - Clearmountain's mix sounds really polished, what you'd expect from a major label live release.

birdistheword, Friday, 18 August 2023 06:06 (eight months ago) link

*I don't think anything was wrong with the track sequence that everyone lived with until 2020 so that's my preference, but FWIW Greil Marcus much prefers the new sequence.

birdistheword, Friday, 18 August 2023 06:07 (eight months ago) link

I also prefer the "soundboard mix" Sebastian Robertson made of the New Year's show - it feels more apiece with the first two albums.

Ooh, where can I hear this?

serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 18 August 2023 10:16 (eight months ago) link

On physical media, it was made available only through the Live At The Academy Of Music 1971 box set, but that entire set (sans DVD) should be on all streaming services, so you'll be able to see the two discs marked "soundboard mix."

birdistheword, Friday, 18 August 2023 19:12 (eight months ago) link

Thinking I mgith have to watch ONCE WERE BROTHERS again despite any, um, reservations.

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 21:03 (eight months ago) link

thank you bird!

serving aunt (stevie), Friday, 18 August 2023 21:39 (eight months ago) link

“Robbie was a lifelong friend. His passing leaves a vacancy in the world.”

This is it from you-know-who?

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:00 (eight months ago) link

Seems like the Soundboard mix starts with “Up on Cripple Creek.”

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:10 (eight months ago) link

Subtracting some more points from ONCE FOR BROTHERS for anachronistic appearance of “Je t’aime… moi non plus” in 1968.

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:15 (eight months ago) link

Sorry, much worse, 1966.

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:19 (eight months ago) link

“Robbie was a lifelong friend. His passing leaves a vacancy in the world.”

This is it from you-know-who?

Bono obviously.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:19 (eight months ago) link

Haha! Close

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:23 (eight months ago) link

More points deducted for misattribution of some Basement Tapes backing vocals to HELM.

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:24 (eight months ago) link

Who does of course eventually reappear but still.

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:31 (eight months ago) link

I thought a lot of the Basement Tapes was recorded later - the Band songs anyway.

Monthly Python (Tom D.), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:40 (eight months ago) link

Right but this was weird demo about a dog that seems to be clearly from that period. Plus voice sounded like Richard Manuel whose photo is also on screen immediately afterwards.

Dominique is even referred to as Dominique Robertson. Maybe she kept her married name after divorce, not that it’s any of my business really. Not even sure how I knew they were divorced except for rock and roll Last Waltz extrapolation and various photos of Robbie plus arm candy du jour.

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:43 (eight months ago) link

“Kickin’ My Dog Around”

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 22:55 (eight months ago) link

Hint to Tom D: it wasn’t Peter Gabriel what said that either

Zing Harvest (Has Surely Come) (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 18 August 2023 23:13 (eight months ago) link

Considering bird's tales of regal demands re mixes, somebody up or down there might dig this serving ov the 50th Anniversary Larks' Tongues In Aspic:

...This set comprises two blu-ray audio discs and two CDs. The first blu-ray contains Steven Wilson’s brand new Dolby Atmos Mix which is described as “more expansive than the earlier mixes as released in 2012, while still retaining and enhancing the core power of the original material”. Since Wilson’s Atmos process involves going back to the multi-track tapes and first building a new stereo mix and then a 5.1 surround mix, we are presented with three brand news mixes for this product.

While Steven was working on this aspect of the material Alex R. Mundy and David Singleton were mixing every single take of the original studio sessions. These unreleased early takes are presented not as traditionally blended pieces, but with maximum separation, with the idea being to mimic “the experience of sitting in the studio with the individual elements being performed around you”.

David Singleton’s ‘Elemental mixes’ apply this same approach to the main album takes to give a fresh view on the familiar, with the focus often falling in unusual places, some originally hidden, some unused. Four of the album’s core tracks feature: extended mixes of ‘Larks’ 1’ and ‘Talking Drum’ along with ‘Easy Money’ and ‘Larks’ 2’. This material is also on the first blu-ray alongside Wilson’s three mixes and some instrumental mixes.

Thanks to the capacity of the blu-ray audio format, the second blu-ray disc contains the complete recordings of every session recorded for the album. As stated, all of this material has been newly mixed from the original performances and is presented on disc for the first time in hi-res 24/96 stereo. This second blu-ray also includes the original stereo mixes of the album and David Singleton’s audio documentary of the album recording Keep That One, Nick. These are the sole previously released elements in this package (both were included in the 2012 box set).

As if all that’s not enough, there’s two CDs. The first includes the 2023 stereo mix and instrumentals of the album and the second offers the elemental mixes and selected master reels...


https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/king-crimson-larks-tongues-in-aspic-complete-recording-sessions/

dow, Saturday, 19 August 2023 01:23 (eight months ago) link

All that talk about his first wife made me wonder what his second wife might be like. This seems to give us a pretty good idea:

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cpsa5pPrGcy/?igshid=MzRlODBiNWFlZA==

Naive Teen Idol, Thursday, 24 August 2023 12:37 (eight months ago) link

Ask Greil today ends with quite the kicker.

The Thin, Wild Mercury Rising (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 16:11 (eight months ago) link

Ha, Robbie himself talks a bit about that in his WTF episode

https://greilmarcus.substack.com/p/ask-greil-september-5-2023

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 16:27 (eight months ago) link

one month passes...

Dalton sings Manuel:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wr46KHgjkso

dow, Sunday, 8 October 2023 20:44 (seven months ago) link

Manuel sings and/or writes lyrics about Dalton, 'tis long said:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zxRsiO8KdKg

dow, Tuesday, 17 October 2023 02:41 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Never knew about this, but Dylan apparently wanted the reunited Band (without Robbie but with Richard still alive) to back him in 1986 - they didn't because their manager nixed the idea.

This is according to Jim Weider in a new interview.

birdistheword, Tuesday, 31 October 2023 02:43 (six months ago) link

That's a really interesting interview, thanks for posting.

lord of the rongs (anagram), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 08:33 (six months ago) link

Yes, enjoyed reading that.

My Prelapsarian Baby (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 31 October 2023 09:38 (six months ago) link


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