dudes: let's write stuff abt MIAMI VICE, the TV show

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Just watched the Power Station-Eartha Kitt-santeria episode

the 'punchline' from Taylor in that bar fight scene was roffflll

Ste, Monday, 14 August 2023 08:02 (eight months ago) link

The Trudy-centric episode in s2 that starts with her shooting a perp dead and ends with her using her ex-boyfriend to set up a drug bust is called "The Dutch Oven" - I was wondering if this title had some other meaning or relevance beyond that one but I guess not

Josefa, Monday, 14 August 2023 13:20 (eight months ago) link

Hulu has existed for 13 years???

Tracer Hand, Monday, 14 August 2023 13:29 (eight months ago) link

It was launched on October 29, 2007
Well hell's bell's

Tracer Hand, Monday, 14 August 2023 13:30 (eight months ago) link

Eszter Balint stabbing Nathan Lane to death in s2 ep5 “Buddies.” Unpredictable!

Forgot how much chugging guitar rock is in this show. Hope they get into some freestyle later on.

Josefa, Monday, 14 August 2023 23:47 (eight months ago) link

Also, the set design looks much different in season 2. Very theatrical and color-coordinated. Whenever they go to someone’s apartment it’s like that character is living in an art gallery.

Josefa, Monday, 14 August 2023 23:52 (eight months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/AJM54Cj.jpg

Just another day at the office

calstars, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 13:03 (eight months ago) link

love these stills you are posting.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 13:45 (eight months ago) link

thanks, this show is so visually and sonically rich it's ridiculous

calstars, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 14:03 (eight months ago) link

https://i.ytimg.com/vi/QEIvgC6Aias/maxresdefault.jpg

Ste, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 14:23 (eight months ago) link

Mann’s rule for the show was: no earth tones. Maybe that really got punched up in S2.

underwater as a compliment (Eazy), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 14:59 (eight months ago) link

I wish Miles Davis had been a recurring character

Josefa, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:07 (eight months ago) link

S2 is peak cultural ubiquity for Miami Vice: #1 soundtrack, huge budgets, kids at my school dance in pastel suits and espadrilles. Probably the best season too.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:10 (eight months ago) link

I'm being surprised by how much comedy and silliness there is in the early episodes, but from what I've heard they dial that aspect back a little in s2 and especially in s3 which is very serious by comparison.

The bar where Noogie holds court was irl a bar called Flynn's Ocean 71 (Collins Ave. & 71st St.). That's where I saw my first punk rock show, since they had all ages matinee shows on weekends. Black Flag and the Minutemen played there in 1984. Upstairs from it was a hotel called the Chelsea (haha). I checked the location on Google Images and there's a hamburger joint now where the bar was.

Josefa, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:19 (eight months ago) link

Most of S1 plays like typical early '80s PI comic-drama tbh albeit with better clothes

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:20 (eight months ago) link

it's hard to spot the Mann-ness in the early going, but maybe that's just because Mann himself had yet to find his sweet spot. the first season does have a much more gritty vibe, and it's actually vv good in that wheelhouse, but yeah it's just definitely more typical. it's going for a cross between Magnum PI and Scarface or something. which doesn't sound typical, but the execution is. and it really whiplashes frequently between truly bleak story beats and comic relief. Cool Runnin' going between the comic relief duo of Zito and Switek to cops being murdered to Noogie doing his thing is pretty much par for the course tonally at this point.

omar little, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:40 (eight months ago) link

Castillo is an unusual guy. He knows martial arts (without telling anyone), he knows about Santería, he puts on a Speedo and swims way out in the ocean. He's like a mystical character from a Carlos Castañeda book.

Josefa, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 21:46 (eight months ago) link

The number of shootouts in s1 and the deadliness of them I think were unprecedented in US cop shows (more like Scarface, yes, which I've always felt was THE big inspiration for the show).

Also the "In the Air Tonight" driving scene is from early s1, so that moody vibe was in the show from the start. And I don't think any cop show had done quite so much location shooting up to that point - and certainly not to such effect. Original Hawaii Five-O being the only show that comes close.

Josefa, Wednesday, 16 August 2023 22:04 (eight months ago) link

otm

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 16 August 2023 22:37 (eight months ago) link

I read the series as a romance between Crockett and Gina

calstars, Thursday, 17 August 2023 23:36 (eight months ago) link

Love that ring on her finger in S2. And Trudie giving C a backrub alone on his boat in that episode where she gets depressed over killing a perp.

calstars, Thursday, 17 August 2023 23:37 (eight months ago) link

Tubbs, stretching out, tries to fool actual Haitians with his Haitian accent in s2 “Tale of the Goat.” It doesn’t work and they turn him into a zombie. J/k he recovers miraculously and gets right back into the action.

Josefa, Sunday, 20 August 2023 01:04 (eight months ago) link

lol

calstars, Sunday, 20 August 2023 01:08 (eight months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/C1mG1ng.jpg

Gina turns down an invite to Chinese with the gang

calstars, Friday, 25 August 2023 03:58 (eight months ago) link

Outstanding

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Friday, 25 August 2023 07:23 (eight months ago) link

I thought Phil Collins was pretty good in his episode, Ted Nugent not so much in his, although he was spectacular in his death scene; it looked like he was really getting shot to death.

Zito kind of handsome in a beard but he shaves it off mid-season 2.

Josefa, Saturday, 26 August 2023 18:57 (eight months ago) link

https://www.instagram.com/p/Cv2_3ONvnEH/

Saundra’s insta is a nice thing

calstars, Sunday, 3 September 2023 18:38 (eight months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/MPKsB1K.jpg
https://i.imgur.com/TPaO0Bu.jpg

calstars, Saturday, 9 September 2023 04:43 (eight months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/d9kO3Rd.jpg

“He seems nice enough but I can’t understand what he’s saying”

calstars, Sunday, 10 September 2023 03:10 (eight months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/vEzWBRr.jpg

Tubbs tries to lighten the mood

calstars, Monday, 11 September 2023 02:00 (seven months ago) link

haha i have that scene on a gif somewhere, which i created, Tubbs doing weird stretches in the office

Ste, Monday, 11 September 2023 09:52 (seven months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J6-QZot81ic

This jam is hot af

calstars, Friday, 15 September 2023 23:03 (seven months ago) link

Bought that 2CD Jan Hammer comp on a trip to Santa Barbara when it was a new release and on the display rack in the soundtrack section - sells for quite a lot now. Wasn’t aware of it and would have otherwise passed me by despite being a bit of a holy grail release for me.

The second disc is re-recordings but they are unbelievably faithful, presumably using the OG midi files / settings etc. My ear could juuust tell that they were not the original tracks before checking liner notes, I guess maybe it is the mix choices or higher bitrate recording that is an indicator?

meat and two vdgg (emsworth), Saturday, 16 September 2023 00:16 (seven months ago) link

“Bought that 2CD Jan Hammer comp on a trip to Santa Barbara”
#lifegoals

calstars, Saturday, 16 September 2023 00:22 (seven months ago) link

Bought a box set of this to watch for the very first time. I had been allowed to watch lots of action TV shows in the early 80s, but I guess my parents thought Miami Vice was super scandalous or something. I'll have to run through a few episodes of Fall Guy and Magnum P.I. for comparison purposes.

Anyway, I watched Glades last night. What a fun bunch of hillbillies! Particularly Clem - I was worried about him getting his gator gun to work, but he came through when it counted.

peace, man, Saturday, 16 September 2023 17:29 (seven months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/Y1WofpV.jpg

calstars, Sunday, 17 September 2023 02:14 (seven months ago) link

i used to watch MV with my dad on Fridays. 10pm iirc. I remember very little about it apart from the opening credits, with that theme, which were incredibly thrilling, and a scene where Crockett's looking for a contact in some disreputable waterfront warehouse and finally finds him, and the guy says "hey, que pasa!" and Crockett pulls his gun on him and growls "don't 'que pasa' me!!!"

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 September 2023 09:12 (seven months ago) link

I may have said this before so apologies if so, but I never understood how Crockett and Tubbs always used the same fake identities when going undercover to bust creeps. eventually, wouldn't Miami's criminal underworld cotton on to the pattern that literally everyone who does business with these guys named Burnett and Cooper end up in jail??

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 September 2023 09:15 (seven months ago) link

Yeah, even this early in my binge, I realized I would have to buy into a Miami where the underworld is so seething and vast that none of the drug lords have compared notes about the playboy speedboat operators that took them down.

"don't 'que pasa' me!!!"

There are definitely some ridiculous hardman lines in this show. I should be writing them down. From the Glades episode, the one that's been rolling over in my mind is "Maybe you won't even twitch."

peace, man, Monday, 18 September 2023 10:59 (seven months ago) link

Tracer, I make that observation nearly every time Crockett and Tubbs make a bust. Plus, Crockett driving around in that ersatz Ferrari would be hella memorable. Not only that, they sometimes appear in public in their police identities driving the same cars!

It is funny how 12 yo me never gave these things a second thought and it was one of the first things I noticed on my rewatch.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 18 September 2023 11:34 (seven months ago) link

Porsche Spyder iirc?

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 September 2023 12:05 (seven months ago) link

oh I guess it was a Ferrari(-ish). should have known with that sharp nose. Weird how two high end performance car brands can both have a model named Spyder.

https://www.motortrend.com/vehicle-genres/miami-vice-ferrari-daytona-spyder-corvette-facts/

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 September 2023 12:07 (seven months ago) link

spyder is sort of a general word for a convertible sports car

https://www.autoweek.com/car-life/a1820786/convertible-spider-or-spyder-and-what-heck-spider-anyway/

peace, man, Monday, 18 September 2023 12:38 (seven months ago) link

ahhhh ty

Tracer Hand, Monday, 18 September 2023 13:11 (seven months ago) link

I knew that re: spyder, but didn't know the origin of the term. Interesting link!

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 18 September 2023 14:42 (seven months ago) link

https://i.imgur.com/3WGbtzX.jpg

“BBT”

calstars, Thursday, 21 September 2023 14:11 (seven months ago) link

Miami Vice but Tubbs drives a golf cart and Crockett a 1978 Ford station wagon

calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2023 18:57 (seven months ago) link

Miami Retiree Vice

Josefa, Saturday, 23 September 2023 18:59 (seven months ago) link

Would watch

calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2023 19:36 (seven months ago) link

https://ginaandtrudy.bandcamp.com/album/vicewave

calstars, Saturday, 23 September 2023 23:03 (seven months ago) link


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