luxury trucks, suvs, crossovers and the death of the sedan

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hyundai finally coming into its own design-wise, for better or for worse

, Thursday, 10 August 2023 14:23 (eight months ago) link

i like what theyre doing generally, now if they could just make their cars harder for children to steal

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 14:28 (eight months ago) link

on the contrary all cars should be made very easy for children to steal - just my humble opinion

, Thursday, 10 August 2023 14:33 (eight months ago) link

tough but fair

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 14:34 (eight months ago) link

We are gradually starting the process of looking into an eventual replacement for the 12-year-old accord and want an electric, but not an SUV. It's surprising how few options there are, esp if you don't want a Tesla. Nissan Leaf maybe?

Or maybe one of these electric "compact" or "sub-compact" SUVs is close enough to a sedan that we won't feel the difference. Also just don't want anything too ostentatious looking or that we will be too afraid to ding bc H is gonna commute to the Bronx in it.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 August 2023 14:52 (eight months ago) link

i would totally get the MG EV wagon if i were getting a car but i am not, so

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:01 (eight months ago) link

probably not available in the US sadly

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:01 (eight months ago) link

reason why so many electrics are crossovers is cause the battery goes in the floor raising the height of the car and a crossover is basically just a tall car

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:25 (eight months ago) link

and then theres just that america has abandoned the car

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:30 (eight months ago) link

i like the hyundai ioniq 5, its bigger than an accord but not super big about the size of a subaru forester

https://file.kelleybluebookimages.com/kbb/base/evox/CP/50143/2022-Hyundai-IONIQ%205-front_50143_032_2400x1800_SAW.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:35 (eight months ago) link

its gotten good reviews

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:35 (eight months ago) link

i gotta say in defense of the crossover a hatchback is so much better than a trunk, you can fit so much more stuff in there especially when you consider putting the seats down, you can even sleep in there, tho it is too bad there arent more wagons which is the true sweet spot

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:50 (eight months ago) link

i keep a sleeping kit in my subaru outback (wagon shaped crossover) at all times, tho tbh ive never slept in it without planning ahead to sleep in it, still i like having the sleeping bag sleeping mat camping pillow in there i feel ready, this is my version of prepping thinking that i might go on a fun spontaneous drive some day

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 15:55 (eight months ago) link

Yeah, both a neighbor and a relative have one of those and seem to like them. And I think they look kinda sharp.

I hear you on the hatchback too, other car is a CRV, have managed to haul pretty large pieces of furniture from facebook marketplace and such, good for the occasional music gig, oversized duffle bags to sleepaway camp etc.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:00 (eight months ago) link

yeah i like how they look feel like hyundai is blazing a trail away from the super cut madface look that dominates the industry which is nice

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 16:04 (eight months ago) link

St. Louis Police told my parents to keep their Prius keys in a lead-lined box.

I do not know whether this is even remotely* true, but there is apparently an idea out there that a decently clever person can clone your keys from a distance.

* no pun intended

Bonobo Vox (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 10 August 2023 18:44 (eight months ago) link

You don't need a lead-lined box, just an RFID pouch. Ten years ago these were all tech demos at hacker conferences, now it's easy enough that you can buy theft devices on the cheap. This is a legit threat - thieves here in SoCal all know which makes and models are vulnerable. Flipper Zero makes this stuff look like gaming.

I suspect we'll see ever more blurring of the sedan/crossover/SUV definitions as the manufacturers realize that you can completely rethink design. I'm fascinated by construction of the Silverado EV where the body is the battery, or the battery is the body - whichever.

One big plus to Hyundai's Ioniq 5, is that it (and Kia's EV6) have significantly faster charging rates. This could be a big deal depending on your situation, use-case, etc.

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 August 2023 22:20 (eight months ago) link

lol, apparently Toyota has now gotten into the game as well with the "bZ4X" - possibly the most "we ran out of names" name I've ever seen.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Thursday, 10 August 2023 22:24 (eight months ago) link

i think thats the one they made to fulfill some regulation barely made any of them and everyone says its horrible

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 22:26 (eight months ago) link

their ceo resigned a few months back over the whole not bothering to make electric cars situation

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 22:27 (eight months ago) link

toyota make a compact electric pickup trust me bro

lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 22:30 (eight months ago) link

Toyota is all-in on hydrogen

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 10 August 2023 22:46 (eight months ago) link

think thats the one they made to fulfill some regulation barely made any of them and everyone says its horrible

― lag∞n, Thursday, 10 August 2023 22:26 (yesterday) link

Yeah, that might explain the half-assed name too

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Friday, 11 August 2023 01:43 (eight months ago) link

five months pass...

https://www.motor1.com/news/706424/suvs-too-fat-european-roads-study/

, Monday, 29 January 2024 18:07 (two months ago) link


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