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! Really?

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Monday, 7 August 2023 13:26 (eight months ago) link

if true that is definitely the most disproportionately butthurt of all the examples.

a holistic digital egosystem (ledge), Monday, 7 August 2023 13:52 (eight months ago) link

Springsteen - "Bobby Jean" and "No Surrender" are both partly about Steve van Zandt leaving the band, though I don't think either of them is entirely about that.

Lily Dale, Monday, 7 August 2023 14:33 (eight months ago) link

Elvis Costello's "How to Be Dumb" and a stray line in "Hurry Down Doomsday" are both apparently directed at Bruce Thomas.

That probably doesn't fit the criteria here but it's what I thought of. One could bring up various Lennon/McCartney solo swipes at each other as well.

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 7 August 2023 14:41 (eight months ago) link

Grateful Dead "He's Gone" is about percussionist Mickey Hart's father embezzling money from the band and absconding, which precipitated Hart leaving the Dead, though he returned a few years later. Sort of a corollary to the category

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Monday, 7 August 2023 16:10 (eight months ago) link

Songs in which the artist refers (by name) to a manager or other non-performing member of their “team”:

R.E.M. - Little America (“Jefferson” (Holt), the band’s manager at the time)

Billie Eilish - I Didn’t Change My Number (“Laura” (Ramsay), her assistant)

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Monday, 7 August 2023 16:18 (eight months ago) link

Ramones - Danny Says (manager Danny Fields)

peace, man, Monday, 7 August 2023 16:34 (eight months ago) link

lots and lots of rap songs

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 August 2023 16:37 (eight months ago) link

eminem's manager paul rosenberg is a recurring character in his catalog, for example. list grows even bigger if we're talking about label execs

ludicrously capacious bag (voodoo chili), Monday, 7 August 2023 16:45 (eight months ago) link

I believe that the main character in the Who's never-completed Lifehouse, Bobby, was named for their soundperson Bob Pridden (that's him in the photo on the back of Odds & Sods). But no Who songs have the name "Bobby" in them.

Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 7 August 2023 16:52 (eight months ago) link

Always wondered what inspired this as it's something Blur did a lot more than Oasis

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9FRAeFyBX1w

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 7 August 2023 17:01 (eight months ago) link

Ray Davies shading various managers in the Kinks' "The Moneygoround."

Josefa, Monday, 7 August 2023 17:05 (eight months ago) link

Songs whose title(s) were the title of the band's preceding album, rather than the album they appeared on:

Marmoset - Record in Red

Deflatormouse, Monday, 7 August 2023 17:07 (eight months ago) link

Songs in which the artist refers (by name) to a manager or other non-performing member of their “team”:

Spoon - Laffitte Don't Fail Me Now, &
Spoon - The Agony of Laffitte

nate woolls, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:58 (eight months ago) link

I thought that was about an A&R guy.

il lavoro mi rovina la giornata (PBKR), Monday, 7 August 2023 23:57 (eight months ago) link

The Ballad of John and Yoko (Peter Brown)

Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:07 (eight months ago) link

John Fogerty "Zanz Kant Danz"

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:09 (eight months ago) link

(Saul Zaentz)

citation needed (Steve Shasta), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:09 (eight months ago) link

would bet that The Beta Band Rap does this more than any other song ever recorded

Deflatormouse, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:23 (eight months ago) link

Zaentz was also a label guy (and not quite what I had in mind with the query, though this is def a category in itself).

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 00:33 (eight months ago) link

My fav Boyz II Men song is an interlude called "Khalil", which is about their manager that had recently been killed in a shooting.

Very moving piece of music

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 01:37 (eight months ago) link

Khalil Roundtree

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 01:38 (eight months ago) link

??
There's an mma fighter called Khalil Rountree, but he's still alive, and never managed boyziimen afaik...

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 01:53 (eight months ago) link

I thought that was about an A&R guy.

I was including it as other non-performing member of their “team”

nate woolls, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 02:32 (eight months ago) link

While traveling the country, their tour manager Khalil Rountree was murdered in Chicago, and the group's future performances of "It's So Hard to Say Goodbye to Yesterday" were dedicated to him. As a result of this unfortunate experience, the song helped advance their success.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 04:05 (eight months ago) link

Holy heck!
It's his son....
Khalil Rountree Jr...
So strange....

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 04:12 (eight months ago) link

Dante is a scrub

symsymsym, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 05:21 (eight months ago) link

R.E.M. - Little America (“Jefferson” (Holt), the band’s manager at the time)

(Having become persona non grata, "Jefferson" changed to "Washington" on the Live at the Olympia album.)

Hideous Lump, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 05:45 (eight months ago) link

“Hamilton” would work well today.

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 06:08 (eight months ago) link

Songs in which the artist refers (by name) to a manager or other non-performing member of their “team”

Enya - Orinoco Flow (Rob Dickins)
Beastie Boys - Intergalactic (Mario C)

And ofc Blur now have an an album named after Smoggy

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:44 (eight months ago) link

Funkadelic, "Cholly (Funk Gettin' Ready to Roll)" (Cholly Bassoline, George Clinton's manager)

Always sounded like a made up name to me but he appears to be real:

https://www.linkedin.com/in/cholly-bassoline-b0987885

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:53 (eight months ago) link

Songs in which the artist refers (by name) to a manager or other non-performing member of their “team”

BA Robertson - Bang Bang

“Life was in a ruin, she loved Johnny Fruin”; John Fruin was the head of WEA Records in 1979. Very inclusive reference from BA.

houdini said, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 19:55 (eight months ago) link

Same thinking as Enya!

you can see me from westbury white horse, Tuesday, 8 August 2023 20:06 (eight months ago) link

I never knew the lyrics of “Orinoco Flow” (beyond the chorus), but flabbergasted that it name-checks a guy named “Rob Dickins”!

Nonhuman biologics enthusiast (morrisp), Tuesday, 8 August 2023 20:10 (eight months ago) link

two weeks pass...

Songs in which different verses are an octave apart. Either with the same singer or different singers.

(Correct me if I am wrong, which happens frequently.)

Bill Withers starts Lean on Me low, with "some times in our lives, we all have pain" etc. The other verses are up from there, e.g., "if there is a load" etc.

So Blink-182 starts I Miss You low, with "Hello there, the angel from my nightmare" etc. The other verse is up from there "Where are you" etc.

Note: NOT a key change, just the same melody an octave up.

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 24 August 2023 20:05 (eight months ago) link

i know this happens a lot but can't for the life of me think of any examples rn

budo jeru, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:34 (eight months ago) link

it definitely makes sense from an arrangement standpoint, in terms of adding variation without really doing anything new

budo jeru, Friday, 25 August 2023 19:35 (eight months ago) link

I believe Geddy Lee does this on the last pre-chorus of "Freewill" by Rush.

Halfway there but for you, Friday, 25 August 2023 20:01 (eight months ago) link

Songs which have amazing intros and slowly drop in quality until the end is either mediocre or actually bad.

Obvious example of this = Love Is The Drug. Maybe also Pyjamarma.

the world is your octopus (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 25 August 2023 20:04 (eight months ago) link

Xp Probably some male/female duets work this way also, but I am having trouble thinking of which. "Up Where We Belong"?

Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 25 August 2023 20:07 (eight months ago) link

Idk if this counts but Another One Bites the Dust has a similar idea ?

you can see me from westbury white horse, Friday, 25 August 2023 20:11 (eight months ago) link

Cat Stevens’ Father and Son

houdini said, Friday, 25 August 2023 20:43 (eight months ago) link

Not an answer but the q makes me think of “1999”

calstars, Friday, 25 August 2023 21:30 (eight months ago) link

Peter Hammill does the octave jump on the chorus of "Lemmings" and probably in other songs. Bowie does it twice in the opening verse(s) of "Sweet Thing".

Halfway there but for you, Saturday, 26 August 2023 04:23 (eight months ago) link

Pop songs that make hooks out of pauses

The Beach Boys - The Little Girl I Once Knew
Steve Harley & Cockney Rebel - Make Me Smile (Come Up and See Me)
Garbage - Supervixen
Madonna - Don't Tell Me

you can see me from westbury white horse, Monday, 28 August 2023 23:42 (eight months ago) link

Funny how a song you haven't heard in maybe 30 years can sometime be the first to pop into your head after a prompt like this:

The Colorblind James Experience - A Different Bob

Alba, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 08:34 (seven months ago) link

Maybe the whole thing is too stop-start to count, but:
Television - Prove It

Alba, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 08:38 (seven months ago) link

Antici

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Pontius Pilates (Ye Mad Puffin), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 09:10 (seven months ago) link

The Breeders – Cannonball

Alba, Tuesday, 29 August 2023 09:13 (seven months ago) link

English Beat - Rankin Fullstop

m0stly clean (Slowsquatch), Tuesday, 29 August 2023 10:17 (seven months ago) link


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