Lizzo - Big GRRRL Small World

God and oral sex in the same sentence

as it should be

(Connecting sexual gratification to the Divine is the least-objectionable thing going on here; it’s one thing to be all “God is good, I’m CUMMING” and another to be all “and this is why you have to eat the banana”)

can I, once again, ask for a moratorium on the "OMG I SO KNEW THEY WERE BAD NEWS" posts whenever something like this happens. like....congrats, here's a Wendy's gift card.

LOL

I don't follow Lizzo outside of her music, so all this is new to me. (That nonsense over Postmates is flat out insane all around.) I will say if really bad shit ever came out about Prince, I'd imagine it would be like all of this.

I mean, it has, hasn't it? lots of stuff known about Prince's viciousness as well as grooming behavior

He could definitely be a real dick to anyone working for him, but I don't remember there ever being a sexual element. It was typically him being extremely demanding and insulting if you either failed to meet his standards or were involved with some artist he considered to be vastly inferior.

In 1990, 16-year-old Garcia met 32-year-old Prince backstage in Barcelona after he saw a tape of her dancing. After she graduated high school in Germany at the age of 17, Prince became her legal guardian.[14][4] Upon moving to Minneapolis, Prince and members of his team helped set her up with her own apartment. "At first, I stayed at the Sofitel, then they moved me to a nice little prairie house at the Country Suites, but I couldn't even make a cup of tea there, so they got me an apartment and rented furniture," she said.[15] When she was 19, Prince instructed her to get on birth control thus beginning their sexual relationship.[4][16] After a four-year courtship, they married on February 14, 1996.[17]

Ugh....yeah that. Also that bad shit he did to Sinéad the one time they met, likely out of extreme pettiness and jealousy.

Lizzo has always coded to me as Bad Straight Camp, the Top 40 equivalent of Liza Minelli doing the Single Ladies dance in Sex & The City

sick burn haha

*checks phone* it may no longer be bad bitch o'clock or thicc thirty

she's literally just bruno mars w/ a significantly fewer number of great songs

oh shit reading the "about damn time" lyrics on google... i always thought it was "cuz i don't give a fuck / weigh too much", not "cuz i give a fuck way too much"

anyway that section always stuck in my craw, specifically ending it with "mm, that's how i feel right now." like, you're just repeating yourself like some kind of a.i. lizzo! your wit is not effortless and sparkling, it is occasionally okay but mostly basic and weedy.

xp yes definitely, and agree that bruno mars is a step above

Lizzo: 100% That Defendant

(if I were a headline writer)

truth hurts was a great single

dont think bruno plays the flute

But he is a great drummer!

oof

Lizzo releases a statement on the sexual harassment and hostile workplace allegations: pic.twitter.com/dho9sMfhnm

— philip lewis (@Phil_Lewis_) August 3, 2023

Some interesting wording choices in there.

It’s a better statement than “God is good, y’all” and that’s about all the leeway I’m willing to grant to all of these empty platitudes

I am very open with my sexuality and expressing myself but I cannot accept or allow people to use that openness to make me out to be something I am not.

huh

The part that also stood out to me was the "with passion comes hard work and high standards", but maybe I'm sensitive to it because men have been using that bullshit as a a free pass to be complete assholes in the working environment for decades.

Yeah that's a long-standing bullshit copout to be an abusive asshole. It IS true that as a performer, these high standards can lead to tense moments - people getting called out for not doing what they're supposed to, being frustrated after a long day. All that is fine and usually doesn't lead to blowups like these.

but you don't get to outright dehumanize people in the name of art, either. that shit's the main reason I hated Klobs as a Presidential candidate, she used that same bullshit excuse.

that shit's the main reason I hated Klobs as a Presidential candidate, she used that same bullshit excuse.

Maybe it's a Minnesota thing?

I am very open with my sexuality and expressing myself (i may ask you to eat a banana out of a stripper's vagina) but I cannot accept or allow people to use that openness to make me out to be something I am not (a bad person)

surprised she didn't say not eating a banana out of a stripper's vagina was a 'boundary' for her

lol j0rdan

Maybe it's a Minnesota thing?

― but also fuck you (unperson), Thursday, August 3, 2023 12:00 PM bookmarkflaglink

"Minnesota not-nice"?

The statement is fascinating b/c she says a lot without actually saying the allegations are untrue (except I guess the part where she says she "would absolutely never criticize or terminate an employee because of their weight")

"I am very open with my sexuality and expressing myself but I cannot accept or allow people to use that openness to make me out to be something I am not." Imagine if, like, Louis CK said this. (He probably did.)

Tbf she didn't fire them for being overweight, she allegedly told them to *lose* some weight. Totally different, right?

That's one of the worst rebuttal statements I've ever read, not that any of them are good

xo FWIW (and not withstanding anything he may have said or done later), I think Louis' apology statement at the time was a pretty good model for one.

"I've behaved like a vile piece of shit because I'm a fuck-up, I will now crawl into a hole and remove myself from the vicinity of the human race for a good long while" is the only rebuttal I ever want to hear from these people. Never seems to happen, funnily enough.

Iirc Louis undercut his apology by coming back and making light of his situation, plus, you know, the dead kids in Parkland. Edgy!

Yes, that's why I said "notwithstanding..." The guy unfortunately sucks, and maybe he didn't even write the statement himself, but it sure hit better notes than Lizzo's

hoo boy

Lizzo is being represented by Hollywood lawyer Marty Singer for her harassment and toxic workplace lawsuit.

Singer’s clientele ranges from a variety of stars, including Bill Cosby, Johnny Depp, Charlie Sheen, Chris Brown, Brett Ratner, and currently, Jonah Hill. pic.twitter.com/BGhkbIBLvd

— Pop Crave (@PopCrave) August 3, 2023

there is nothing i take more seriously than the respect i deserve as the most important person in any room i walk into

that looks like a new fighting game character select screen

xpost - that is, uh, not a list of names i'd want to be publicly associated with here in the year of our lord 2023

he's been the lawyer for way more celebrities than just those of this particular ilk - but yeah, nagl

not defending Lizzo but if you cherrypick the clients of any fucking defence lawyer on earth, it's "nagl"

no one here made that list, calm down. of course it's cherry picked to make it look worse. still, the statement stands that, were i a celebrity, i would definitely not want to be publicly linked with those names in 2023.

do we need another nagl thread

point being that hiring a defence lawyer, any defence lawyer, will come with these kind of associations, there's no way around it

p sure the average defense lawyer doesn't provide concierge legal services to celebs

obviously tons of celebrities use lawyers like this and tons of celebrities do stuff like this, and certainly this lawyer is probably very good

the problem for Lizzo it's hard say oh well she's just doing what celebrities do when a huge part of her whole thing (I'd say equal to the music) is that she wasn't a typical celebrity, she was better, kinder, empowering, etc. that's a big part of how she presented herself and her appeal.

it's not like pre-Amber Heard, people were like you know who's the best, not at all sketchy dude in the world? Johnny Depp

i kinda sometimes find the "positive energy" qualities that are praised in a lot of celebrities to be at best neutral traits. sometimes there are displays of suffocating positivity that are a result of this weird symbiotic relationship fans have with celebs who love basking in adoration, and who feed off it. and anything that pierces the illusion or might make them feel disempowered from their status as the lord or lady of good vibes is going to cause them to reveal themselves.

It's really easy to not hire Bill Cosby's lawyer. just sayin.

OTM

marty singer has prob defended 75% of hollywood at this point