Things you were shockingly old when you learned

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Spag bol drives me nuts. Also saw something a few months ago where the comments revealed that a high percentage of people thought it was spag bowl and didn't know it was bolognaise.

Benson and the Jets (ENBB), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 09:21 (nine months ago) link

it was Spag Bog in our house. Spag Bol will forever sound posh to me.

oooh putting on airs saying "spag bol" like he's a real Italian

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 09:24 (nine months ago) link

oh so someone suddenly thinks they are Antonio Carluccio!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:28 (nine months ago) link

one thing I just learned was about the Andrea Doria/Stockholm collision. When the icebreaker went full steam into the starboard side of the AD obv all the passengers in that impact section of the hull didn't make it. Apart a young girl who was actually found dazed and with a broken arm amongst the crumpled wreckage of the Stockholm bow. They were like who is this? she's not on our passenger manifest ... oh!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:37 (nine months ago) link

wikipedia says she was catapulted from her bed onto the other ship -- and also that her dad, a famous radio broadcaster, had already delivered a story on the collision without letting his audience that he was himself still awaiting new of his daughter, at that time missing among the survivors (because she was now on the other ship)

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:47 (nine months ago) link

wasn't her mother killed in the collision? I'm not sure if I misheard that bit. But ships can falter but the airwaves can't!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 10:55 (nine months ago) link

Trayce, wait till you hear about New Haven pizza being pronounced "ah-beetz," or the various dialect-specific things like mozzarella being pronounced "mots-a-dell."

Language weirds language

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:00 (nine months ago) link

her mother was injured, stepfather and half-sister were killed, fuller story here: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linda_Morgan

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:04 (nine months ago) link

my first thought was that her dad was a callous mofo, but on the other hand him not making the story all about himself could also be seen quite admirable.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:09 (nine months ago) link

when my uncle was badly injured in a motorcycle crash involving another motorcycle and a car. The other motorcyclist had his 14 yr old son riding pillion and he died. My uncle was in the same ward as him and said he was repeatedly boasting about how fast he was going. Now that's callous.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:21 (nine months ago) link

anyway youtube algorithm is serving up endless maritime disaster vids at the moment, some real nightmare fuel but also addictive.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:26 (nine months ago) link

(xp) Some kind of tortured metaphor in there for the approach to climate change being followed by the two main political parties in the UK.

Continuous Two-Tone Warble (Tom D.), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:27 (nine months ago) link

Ugh

Poor Little Fool Killer (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:28 (nine months ago) link

holy shit

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:36 (nine months ago) link

I'd wish a grisly end to all them knaves in UK parliament. But perhaps nothing as bad as the Iranian divers who were still in the decompression chamber when their ship sank and then had to slowly choke out in there for days on the sea bed.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:38 (nine months ago) link

that urge to be a deep-sea diver really is something, like: good day at work today - I didn't almost die in some horrible and grisly fashion 300ft down.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 11:57 (nine months ago) link

heights scare me way more, construction workers in bucket lifts 60 stories high, or climbing up scaffolds (shudder), that looks absolutely terrifying.

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:21 (nine months ago) link

the sea is a sort of a mix of height and depth but with added pressure, the idea of looking down and seeing 100's of ft of depth tapering into darkness - that would terrify me.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:39 (nine months ago) link

also it's full of hideous creatures with bulbs on their head and such

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:46 (nine months ago) link

https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/81d4l9cCvdL._RI_SX480_FMwebp_.jpg

there are some hideous creatures down there alright!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 12:56 (nine months ago) link

my first thought was that her dad was a callous mofo, but on the other hand him not making the story all about himself could also be seen quite admirable.

some real Howard Hawks shit imo, a man must be a professional and a professional gets his job done in a stoic manner no matter what the pain

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:02 (nine months ago) link

there wasn't much Howard Hawks spirit from the ship's crew, many of them donned passenger life jackets and were amongst the first ones to get the fuck out of there!

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:19 (nine months ago) link

the sea is a sort of a mix of height and depth but with added pressure, the idea of looking down and seeing 100's of ft of depth tapering into darkness - that would terrify me.

you're right, of course. i have these moments doing long distance open water swims by myself where i feel so unthreatened and in my element and suddenly it hits me, like "you are a human, you belong on the land you stupid fuck, the shore looks really far away, why aren't you terrified? this is reckless behavior." but it passes after a few minutes lol

been diving and enjoyed it but i'm too scared to climb a fire escape, it is totally irrational.

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:24 (nine months ago) link

I've worked at heights when I was youngish - wouldn't be able to do it now. Got a much clearer idea of what The End looks like and how easy it is to reach it these days.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:38 (nine months ago) link

Personally I only want thrills that I am in control of.

My beloved wife likes roller-coasters and amusement park rides and wants to do escape rooms and such. I confess that I just don't get it.

Like, I will do pretty demanding hikes and climbs and caves and bike rides and cross-country skiing. Because the speed and thrills come from ME. If it demands skill, it demands MY skill.

But a waterslide? That's plastic plus gravity. Skydiving? Gravity plus nylon.

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 13:45 (nine months ago) link

By the way why is that pronounced "baloney"?

I am guessing it's just a mangling of the Italian pronunciation, but I honestly don't know. This might be something I learn today.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 14:02 (nine months ago) link

Can we do an ILX fundraising drive to build our own submarine?

Thinking 1k should be enough.

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 16:54 (nine months ago) link

We all live in a neandosubmarine

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:06 (nine months ago) link

won't be living in it for long if I'm the captain

linoleum gallagher (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:06 (nine months ago) link

Captain Nemanderthal

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:08 (nine months ago) link

Or maybe: 77 Leagues Under the Sea

DJP Boot

Nemo Raggett

C or Das Boot

The Hunt for Raggettober

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:13 (nine months ago) link

just give me a cardboard bix and a sharpie

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:14 (nine months ago) link

POXtober

Steely Duran (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:15 (nine months ago) link

i once made a gravity bong out of a bathtub and an office water cooler jug, it felt like a scuba mission. investigative and exploratory.

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:15 (nine months ago) link

i have seen workers on scaffolds doing insane daredevil acrobatics these last couple of years, it's shocking and horrifying. honestly playing baseball on a scaffold would be way safer.

Deflatormouse, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:19 (nine months ago) link

I'm very confused about the baloney/bologna thing upthread. I've got no idea what it actually is, it's just a word I heard in American cartoons and films when I was a kid that seemed to a polite way to say 'bullshit'. Now this thread seems to be telling me that there is no such word as 'baloney', just 'bologna' pronounced very weirdly, but it doesn't mean the Italian city or bolognaise sauce, it means...?

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:27 (nine months ago) link

it's a kind of cured pork and beef sausage -- also called polony and (in parts of australia) "fitz"

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:31 (nine months ago) link

Well, I'm shockingly old to learn that

Nasty, Brutish & Short, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 17:32 (nine months ago) link

It is, or was, also a very popular choice among U.S. parents as a cheap meat to use in school lunch sandwiches.

It's basically floor sweepings.

I can barely stand the smell of it now, it really makes me sick.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:22 (nine months ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRKTXCRqRXQ

how quickly we forget that oscar meyer has a way with b-o-l-o-g-n-a

mh, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:38 (nine months ago) link

I wish I could forget that ad. It's taking up valuable storage space.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:39 (nine months ago) link

baloney the food sounds like a more hench version of a frankfurter, but possibly even more indigestible and bad. An old fashioned UK word meaning nonsense/bollox I really like is "tommyrot". A headmaster used it on me once and it seemed hilarious at the time, but I still use it irl.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:51 (nine months ago) link

"What rot!" is also pleasing to say

Alba, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 18:59 (nine months ago) link

tommyrot is another australian name for a cured pork and beef sausage

mark s, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:01 (nine months ago) link

It's basically the American version of mortadella. An emulsified beef and pork sausage with no discernible pockets of fat or pistachios or what have you.

BTW, I must thank everyone for all of your posts. This thread is one of the most edifying I've read. Thank you.

righteousmaelstrom, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:07 (nine months ago) link

"Can we do an ILX fundraising drive to build our own submarine?"

there was a trend for ppl building DIY subs out of used propane gas tanks in recent history. Obv low depth limited vehicles just done for a laugh or just to get a taste for the underwater experience. Stockton Rush made one and the hack engineer who who designed and wired all the frequently dysfunctional hydraulic and control systems for the Titan submersible said in an interview that the one Rush made actually contained a wooden part, although he didn't specify if it was part of the pressure chamber.

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 19:36 (nine months ago) link

there’s a weird john mayer song about a dude building a submarine in his back yard and hanging out there all the time alone

brimstead, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 20:27 (nine months ago) link

Not sure I believe a word of this, but whatever

https://www.dictionary.com/e/baloney-or-bologna/

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 20:29 (nine months ago) link

Influenced by "blarney" they say, but I always assumed it was a euphemism for bullshit. I've heard many an older person say, "oh, bull......loney!"

Josefa, Wednesday, 2 August 2023 20:43 (nine months ago) link

kissing the baloney stone gives endows you with the gift of t'all tastes same to me

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Wednesday, 2 August 2023 21:38 (nine months ago) link


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