https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD09qQjHXsw
quonytail!
― thomp, Thursday, 6 August 2009 09:46 (fourteen years ago) link
i am disappointed the elephant appears to not actually be in the room with him : (
― thomp, Thursday, 6 August 2009 09:47 (fourteen years ago) link
if i'd have known of this poll, i'd have prob voted poseidon
― dog latin, Thursday, 6 August 2009 11:34 (fourteen years ago) link
"your mother's quite insane"
― velko, Thursday, 6 August 2009 11:39 (fourteen years ago) link
Seriously though, "Poseidon" might be "Court" part 2, but it's a better album. No "Moonchild" for a start, and "Cat Food" is a fun little song instead. I remember being blown away first time I heard that album.
― dog latin, Thursday, 6 August 2009 12:56 (fourteen years ago) link
I much prefer "Moonchild' to Poseidon's "Devil's Triangle" these days.
― Such A Hilbily (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 6 August 2009 13:41 (fourteen years ago) link
I bought discipline today in fopp for £5
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:02 (fourteen years ago) link
WTF Moonchild is great.
― akm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 14:07 (fourteen years ago) link
Apparently Fripp himself now feels it was 3 minutes too long. But "Devil's Triangle" coulda been tightened a bit too. Really, KC never did make that album that satisfied me fully, which might be the reason I never voted
― Stop wishing death on people just for the cool thread titles (Myonga Vön Bontee), Thursday, 6 August 2009 17:06 (fourteen years ago) link
surprised fripp would feel that way and not also think "construktion of light" was 30 minutes too long, which it is.
― akm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 18:36 (fourteen years ago) link
construktion of shite
― velko, Thursday, 6 August 2009 18:37 (fourteen years ago) link
That album wins the "worst KC vocals ever" category.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 August 2009 18:57 (fourteen years ago) link
yeah it is totally irritating. there are some good songs on there, kind of (barely). the next one was better. I've said elsewhere, I really wish KC would move back toward the clean sound of the 80's albums or do something completely different, going back to "Red" and rewriting it hundreds of times is pretty boring.
― akm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Tonight's instalment is "In The Wake Of Poseidon".
Not grabbing me anything like as immediately as "In The Court Of...", but I enjoyed 'Cat Food' and b-side 'Groon' a lot. Just about to start a second spin.
― krakow, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:14 (fourteen years ago) link
those are maybe the most interesting things on it. cat food is really overlooked, I kind of wish the current lineup would try playing it.
― akm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:15 (fourteen years ago) link
the title track is epic but maybe not quite up to Epitaph
― velko, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:16 (fourteen years ago) link
the title track sounds exactly like a cross b/w epitaph and in the court!
― akm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:21 (fourteen years ago) link
the worst thing about the album is the horrible cover art.
― akm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:22 (fourteen years ago) link
"Groon" - Boris covered that.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:28 (fourteen years ago) link
I never got into The Wake of Poseidon really. (It's still to this date the only king crimson studio LP I never purchased - oh and The Construkction of Light - I pirated that album). I do have Frame by Frame box set which has all the best Poseidon stuff anyways plus the last disc has great live versions. Not that I listen to the Frame by Frame box set very often.
If you're like me, you'll like Lizard and Islands more than Poseidon. ITCOTCK is the best of the first 4, imo - on first listens the title track was my favorite but now my favorite song is either "Epitaph" or "I Talk to the Wind"). Also "Moonchild" is quite lovely. I like to consider myself a "Moonchild" since I was born slightly past midnight during a full moon in late June.
Once you get to Starless and Bible Black and Red you'll be having quite a bit of fun.
BTW, 21st Century Schizoid man is going to be on Guitar Hero 5.
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:31 (fourteen years ago) link
xpost, I was just wondering if that were the case as I listened...
― krakow, Thursday, 6 August 2009 21:50 (fourteen years ago) link
Lizard has been the one that's grown on me the most over the years.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:03 (fourteen years ago) link
lizard is pretty let down by haskell's vocals which are markedly different and more dramatic than on "cadence and cascade", and the presence of jon anderson.
― akm, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:06 (fourteen years ago) link
really? i love it
― velko, Thursday, 6 August 2009 22:45 (fourteen years ago) link
Last night we got a copy of Belew's new album "E" in the post, from Tennesee. Bf then pointed out that the customs shipping declaration was actually signed by Adrian himself.
What a dude!
― My boss say I can't not do this (Trayce), Thursday, 6 August 2009 23:53 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, he lives right outside Nashville.
― Hugh Manatee (WmC), Friday, 7 August 2009 01:40 (fourteen years ago) link
Tonight it's the controversial "Lizard".
― krakow, Friday, 7 August 2009 20:58 (fourteen years ago) link
Tonight you are going to be David Icke?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Friday, 7 August 2009 21:00 (fourteen years ago) link
how did you get on with Lizard?
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 August 2009 13:51 (fourteen years ago) link
It was OK. It didn't set me alight, but I certainly didn't think it was bad in any way, pretty good in fact, but no "In The Court Of...".
― krakow, Saturday, 8 August 2009 20:37 (fourteen years ago) link
It is better than Islands.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Saturday, 8 August 2009 21:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Larks Tongue in Aspic is my favorite, but Lizard is criminally underrated. Cirkus and the title track make that thing amazing.
― Cyberdune Butt (Elvin Wayburn Phillips), Saturday, 8 August 2009 22:17 (fourteen years ago) link
i like lizard best for sure. "cirkus (including entrance of the chameleons" is an even better lead off than "21st century schizoid man." as great as that song is, "cirkus" overwhelms me less but sticks in my craw more somehow. and why would someone knock jon anderson's "prince rupert awakens" vocals? i can only chalk that up to not enough love for the cheerful insanity of giles, giles, and fripp
― kamerad, Sunday, 9 August 2009 02:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Having a listen to http://www.last.fm/music/King+Crimson/USA just now.
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Sunday, 9 August 2009 14:58 (fourteen years ago) link
http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Steven-Wilson-On-Remixing-King-Crimson-20442.aspx
some interesting stuff about the remixing project.
― akm, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 07:03 (fourteen years ago) link
(and some Lizard love)
― akm, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 07:04 (fourteen years ago) link
I'm interested to hear what krakow thinks of Islands, because that's another getting-off-the-bus point for people. it's good though, I didn't appreciate it until I heard the live stuff from the same band.
― akm, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 07:13 (fourteen years ago) link
That's up next. Might try it tonight, depending on how things go.
― krakow, Tuesday, 11 August 2009 08:14 (fourteen years ago) link
Primer in The Wire this month.
― The Old Grey Mare (state of the world today), Sunday, 15 November 2009 03:05 (fourteen years ago) link
Yeah, by Joseph Stannard who is one of their metalheads. So I fear he's going to rep for the 90s stuff (Construkction of Light, Thrak, Power to Believe, which I find pretty unbearable.
I also think Crimson is kind of a safe and obvious choice for a Wire Primer, but maybe that's just me.
― anagram, Sunday, 15 November 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link
I suspect stannard would laugh in your face if you called him a metalhead.
― m the g, Monday, 16 November 2009 00:01 (fourteen years ago) link
He was editor of Terrorizer you know
― pfunkboy (Herman G. Neuname), Monday, 16 November 2009 00:04 (fourteen years ago) link
yes, I know. but he is no longer editor of terrorizer, largely because he tried to broaden the remit beyond metal.
haven't read the article yet, but I know that stannard has seriously broad taste - and, pertinent in this context, he really knows and loves his prog. don't be afeared.
(as it happens, construkction is my own personal favourite),
― m the g, Monday, 16 November 2009 00:23 (fourteen years ago) link
Maybe I should pick that Wire up then.
I just saw this thread bumped and think I might have to get Red. I've never heard it; I have In The Court, Lark's Tongues, and Starless, but that's it. I remember having Thrak a while ago, but I don't seem to anymore. I don't think I sold it, but if some poor schlub roommate "borrowed" it off of me, I guess a just penance is to have to carry it around.
― Giorgio Marauder (I eat cannibals), Monday, 16 November 2009 00:35 (fourteen years ago) link
Really? I gave it a couple of tries around the time of release, but I couldn't take it...and I generally give even dubious Crim a pretty wide latitude. What are the standout tracks on Construkction in your opinion?
FWIW I thought the Power to believe was an improvement, but they really need a rethinking of the band if they're to continue.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 16 November 2009 00:56 (fourteen years ago) link
i'm sure mr. fripp will take your recommendation under advisement
― kamerad, Monday, 16 November 2009 01:35 (fourteen years ago) link
What are the standout tracks on Construkction in your opinion?
genuinely believe that 'into the frying pan' is all-time top-5 crim
prozakc blues and frakctured are pretty good too. as is the coda. title-track has the single worst line in lyrical history, but i'll let y'guys find it for yourselves
― the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Monday, 16 November 2009 01:37 (fourteen years ago) link
i mean some days 'into the frying pan' is second behind 21CSM
― the juddering triumph of camembert (acoleuthic), Monday, 16 November 2009 01:38 (fourteen years ago) link
I just saw this thread bumped and think I might have to get Red
Definitely, it's their most cohesive and powerful album. Now is the time to get it as well, what with it having been remastered by S Wilson out of Porcupine Tree and with a bonus DVD of rare live footage or something.
― anagram, Monday, 16 November 2009 06:03 (fourteen years ago) link
I'd be most grateful if they included the Red-era band actually performing Red live.
― WARS OF ARMAGEDDON (Karaoke Version) (Sparkle Motion), Monday, 16 November 2009 06:39 (fourteen years ago) link