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The beta started a while back and now theyre inviting non-subscribers (possibly people who have subscribed in the past) as my alternative account i hardly use got an invite too.
So what do you think of it,Stephen?

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:22 (fifteen years ago) link

It won't let me through actually. Says I oughta subscribe. Bah.

stephen, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 01:34 (fifteen years ago) link

the shoutbox is at the bottom of the page and is much much bigger, shows a lot more messages.
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does it show both sides of a conversation now? i hope not, it's a really stupid idea that i'm kinda glad they kept, i can't deal with straight up pms

tremendoid, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 05:37 (fifteen years ago) link

uh

tremendoid, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 05:38 (fifteen years ago) link

No. But there is an activity feed where you can see where you posted on other shoutboxes/posted on groups or forums/wrote a journal etc.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 13:53 (fifteen years ago) link

no weekly chart? fuck that!

grimly fiendish, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 14:38 (fifteen years ago) link

I will miss the weekly charts, but I quite like the idea of adding non-scrobblable music to your collection (though I suppose there are other sites for that and I don't use those). But what can you do with this info once you've taken the time to add it?

Slighty tempted to stump up the subscriber fee to have a poke at this, but considering I haven't even bothered to check my weekly charts for ages (and it used to be a matter of considerable sad ego-stroking every Monday to look at them and congratulate myself or something) it's probably not worth it.

a passing spacecadet, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 14:44 (fifteen years ago) link

You can change your top artist chart to a rolling 7 day one but it's not the same. I like the charts the way they were. They can change the look but they need to keep the principle the same.

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 14:47 (fifteen years ago) link

I bet they've only done this to stop people moaning "my weekly charts haven't updated"

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah, I too have become obsessed with my weekly chart.

Have also just discovered the delights of the ILXor group radio station- I was unaware that groups had stations:
http://www.last.fm/listen/group/ilXor

Neil S, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 14:48 (fifteen years ago) link

It won't let me through actually. Says I oughta subscribe. Bah.

-- stephen,

http://www.last.fm/group/Last.fm+Beta/forum/95114/_/427454

* squeakypants said...

I can't access the beta
I'm not a subscriber, but I got this email:

Your account has been added to the list of users who can access the beta.

However, I get this message when I try to access it:
Sorry, the Last.fm Beta site is currently only accessible by subscribers.

The advice given was clear out cookies (or make sure you're logged in)

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 2 July 2008 16:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I'll bet that within a week of the beta going live there will be a greasemonkey userscript that will allow you to have both charts on your main page.

musically, Thursday, 3 July 2008 22:35 (fifteen years ago) link

I think the charts will come back as everyone is moaning about it.

Herman G. Neuname, Friday, 4 July 2008 00:08 (fifteen years ago) link

hmm. having played with it a bit, i really like it. the charts thing doesn't matter so much, i think, if -- as others have said -- you set your top artists to the last seven days. in fact, that way you get a rolling one every day, which is way cooler :)

yes, that means you can't have an overall top artists thing -- but surely that's made up for by the library, which basically does the same job?

i'm quite taken with it, anyway. bring it on.

grimly fiendish, Sunday, 6 July 2008 20:27 (fifteen years ago) link

I want my weekly snapshot!

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 6 July 2008 20:38 (fifteen years ago) link

LastGraph3 is an experimental site trying to come up with ways to graph people's playlists. So far, they do have hotlinkable graphs that always update themselves. Here's mine

http://lastgraph3.aeracode.org/graph/mackromackro/sig1/500/50/

..however, it doesn't really show which artists I've been playing. It doesn't look like much at all, in fact. I think later the site will have some neat hotlinkable stuff. But in the meantime, here's a snapshot from March to July 2008 of my last.fm plays in a neat sunset colored water graphic chart:

http://i30.tinypic.com/2ptyyro.jpg

Now, if they could hotlink THAT, regenerated every load, that would be awesome. Andrew G. who runs the LastGraph3 site, I think, is trying to work on this.

Mackro Mackro, Sunday, 6 July 2008 21:16 (fifteen years ago) link

beta still not any better

Herman G. Neuname, Sunday, 13 July 2008 15:37 (fifteen years ago) link

I want my weeklies back dammit and get rid of that shitty player!

Herman G. Neuname, Wednesday, 16 July 2008 13:52 (fifteen years ago) link

MEDIA PLAYER AT TOP RIGHT OF SCREEN FUCK OFF AND BRING BACK MY WEEKLY SNAPSHOT!

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 July 2008 16:13 (fifteen years ago) link

new version is sooo slow

Catsupppppppppppppp dude 茄蕃, Thursday, 17 July 2008 16:18 (fifteen years ago) link

and shit

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 July 2008 16:21 (fifteen years ago) link

Playlists are for subscribers only now
http://www.last.fm/forum/21713/_/432857

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 July 2008 16:40 (fifteen years ago) link

What does everyone else think of the new site?

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 July 2008 16:54 (fifteen years ago) link

What a fucking mess of a design. Who cares about that stupid media player anyway? The library thing also looks extremely useless to me, but takes up big space. Horrible.

If anyone knows a Greasemonky script to make it look like it was before, I'd really appreciate a nudge.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 July 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

xpost there ya go

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 July 2008 16:55 (fifteen years ago) link

i would critique but can't get the fucker to load

blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 16:57 (fifteen years ago) link

I also miss the dashboard overview badly. I'm with you on this Herman, this is insane.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 July 2008 16:58 (fifteen years ago) link

Blueski, seems I was just lucky. Mine now looks like a html page from 1995. Djeez.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:01 (fifteen years ago) link

Yeah steve it really is slooooooooooooooow.
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Im glad someone agrees with me. That rolling 7 day chart is not the same.
I liked it the way it was before, Weekly snapshot on top, then top 50 artists then top 50 tracks. Cant understand why they've changed that PLUS that player is so horrible. Not to mention the shoutbox et al.
This really is a change for the worse.
And i really hate those last fm arselickers on the forums who are desperate to become staff.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

yeah wtf about the dashboard? Did they really kill it? Because that was the only reason to bother friending someone as far as I can tell.

Euler, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:03 (fifteen years ago) link

this is like when facebook did their hueg overhaul. these companies get big money from ads/investments and they don't have shit to do with it except pay programmers to "redesign" the site

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

And i really hate those last fm arselickers on the forums who are desperate to become staff.

shit i should've posted on the forum when i applied for job with them

blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:05 (fifteen years ago) link

there is a see who is listening now thing here for friends http://www.last.fm/home

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

fuck them if they nuked dashboard

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:06 (fifteen years ago) link

ok I finally got last.fm/home to load (it keeps timing out), and that's a crappy replacement for dashboard. It just shows one song from each of your friends. What they had before was perfectly good.

Euler, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:18 (fifteen years ago) link

I haven't even seen it yet (I saw a screenshot of the beta version a few weeks ago somewhere), but what the eff are they doing? What point does it even serve anymore other than for labels to push streaming audio on you? I always liked Audioscrobbler/Last.fm because the benefit lay squarely with the user, but now it's all about the provider.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:26 (fifteen years ago) link

front page is inexcusable

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

'selling out' will do that i guess xp

blueski, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:30 (fifteen years ago) link

That activity thing is a load of shite

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:46 (fifteen years ago) link

Finally got it to load. Damn. Pitiful.

Having the shoutbox at the bottom of the page does absolutely no good. And get rid of that fucking media player! And I never go to the home page, not when I had a dashboard anyway.

Fuck this.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

http://img517.imageshack.us/img517/9416/lastfmnu0.png

This what the 'dashboard' looks like for me, now. FAIL.
Everything I liked about it has been dragged down to the bottom. Media player, recommendations, 'my stations'... all the things I couldn't care less about is featured prominently. Whereas the songs my 'friends' are listening have been put away on the right side. Too bad I just paid three days ago for the renewal, this blows.

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:48 (fifteen years ago) link

Shite, that's big, sorry

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:49 (fifteen years ago) link

For some reason the see who has visited you recently thing isnt on my page now either. They better bring that back.

Herman G. Neuname, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:52 (fifteen years ago) link

what the fuck is YOUR LIBRARY anyway

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:53 (fifteen years ago) link

^^^that's really the best perk of a subscription. xp

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:54 (fifteen years ago) link

ha + with a subscription you could listen to your own radio station but it seems like now you don't need one to do that

J0rdan S., Thursday, 17 July 2008 17:56 (fifteen years ago) link

I want my weeklies back dammit and get rid of that shitty player!

weeklies are still there if you click "Last 7 Days ----> see more -----> or browse by weekly snapshots"

groovemaaan, Thursday, 17 July 2008 18:15 (fifteen years ago) link

ITT, people struggle to cope with change

The stickman from the hilarious "xkcd" comics, Thursday, 17 July 2008 18:18 (fifteen years ago) link

True, but that doesn't mean some change just isn't good. In the case of last.fm, "that's not change we can believe in!"

Le Bateau Ivre, Thursday, 17 July 2008 18:23 (fifteen years ago) link

I wish you could drag compartments around like you can on Facebook. Change schmange...I just want all the info where it was before. They can put bells and whistles on the design if they want, but I'm completely disoriented.

Johnny Fever, Thursday, 17 July 2008 18:31 (fifteen years ago) link


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