The King Crimson studio album poll

In fact hell I think I'll put Discipline on my headphones right now.

I just assumed there was going to be something more to the remasters than just surround when I was reading Fripp's diaries like this one.

or this from that e-mail that was posted a little bit above: "Each CD/DVD-A release features the full original album plus bonus tracks on the CD. Two of the titles – Lizard & In the Court of the Crimson King feature entirely new 2009 stereo album mixes by Steven Wilson & Robert Fripp."

haha i am now listening to discipline also

it kind of confirms what i felt when i heard 'frame by frame' in the other thread, that as a group they were interested in the sorts of new noises made available by the advances in technology of the time - ott digital fx, chapman stick, bruford mic'd differently, er adrian belew - but didn't really know what to do with them - the elephant/mouse/whatever noises on 'elephant talk' are pretty awesome noises, but they kind of show up and go 'look, we can make this noise' rather than musically going anywhere with them

Yeah Belew was a bit guilty of that "lol elephants, listen" thing with his guitar for a while there.

On youtube there's some japanese ads for Maxell or TDK or some shit where he's making said animal noises and there's real elephants and whatever looking puzzled while he goofs around in front of them like he usually does. Its endearingly bizzare.

Regarding the forthcoming reissues, I had a brief think before realising that fancy surround sound and DVD Audio gubbins doesn't interest me at all, so I'll happily rather take the previous lot of straight CD remasters for a fiver than wait a couple of months and pay top whack for a freshly minted bunch.

I must have listened to "In the Court of the Crimson King" about 5-6 times last night and this morning - I love it, especially the title track.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RD09qQjHXsw

quonytail!

i am disappointed the elephant appears to not actually be in the room with him : (

if i'd have known of this poll, i'd have prob voted poseidon

"your mother's quite insane"

Seriously though, "Poseidon" might be "Court" part 2, but it's a better album. No "Moonchild" for a start, and "Cat Food" is a fun little song instead. I remember being blown away first time I heard that album.

I much prefer "Moonchild' to Poseidon's "Devil's Triangle" these days.

I bought discipline today in fopp for £5

WTF Moonchild is great.

Apparently Fripp himself now feels it was 3 minutes too long. But "Devil's Triangle" coulda been tightened a bit too. Really, KC never did make that album that satisfied me fully, which might be the reason I never voted

surprised fripp would feel that way and not also think "construktion of light" was 30 minutes too long, which it is.

construktion of shite

That album wins the "worst KC vocals ever" category.

yeah it is totally irritating. there are some good songs on there, kind of (barely). the next one was better. I've said elsewhere, I really wish KC would move back toward the clean sound of the 80's albums or do something completely different, going back to "Red" and rewriting it hundreds of times is pretty boring.

Tonight's instalment is "In The Wake Of Poseidon".

Not grabbing me anything like as immediately as "In The Court Of...", but I enjoyed 'Cat Food' and b-side 'Groon' a lot. Just about to start a second spin.

those are maybe the most interesting things on it. cat food is really overlooked, I kind of wish the current lineup would try playing it.

the title track is epic but maybe not quite up to Epitaph

the title track sounds exactly like a cross b/w epitaph and in the court!

the worst thing about the album is the horrible cover art.

"Groon" - Boris covered that.

I never got into The Wake of Poseidon really. (It's still to this date the only king crimson studio LP I never purchased - oh and The Construkction of Light - I pirated that album). I do have Frame by Frame box set which has all the best Poseidon stuff anyways plus the last disc has great live versions. Not that I listen to the Frame by Frame box set very often.

If you're like me, you'll like Lizard and Islands more than Poseidon. ITCOTCK is the best of the first 4, imo - on first listens the title track was my favorite but now my favorite song is either "Epitaph" or "I Talk to the Wind"). Also "Moonchild" is quite lovely. I like to consider myself a "Moonchild" since I was born slightly past midnight during a full moon in late June.

Once you get to Starless and Bible Black and Red you'll be having quite a bit of fun.

BTW, 21st Century Schizoid man is going to be on Guitar Hero 5.

xpost, I was just wondering if that were the case as I listened...

Lizard has been the one that's grown on me the most over the years.

lizard is pretty let down by haskell's vocals which are markedly different and more dramatic than on "cadence and cascade", and the presence of jon anderson.

the worst thing about the album is the horrible cover art.

really? i love it

Last night we got a copy of Belew's new album "E" in the post, from Tennesee. Bf then pointed out that the customs shipping declaration was actually signed by Adrian himself.

What a dude!

Yeah, he lives right outside Nashville.

Tonight it's the controversial "Lizard".

Tonight you are going to be David Icke?

how did you get on with Lizard?

It was OK. It didn't set me alight, but I certainly didn't think it was bad in any way, pretty good in fact, but no "In The Court Of...".

It is better than Islands.

Larks Tongue in Aspic is my favorite, but Lizard is criminally underrated. Cirkus and the title track make that thing amazing.

i like lizard best for sure. "cirkus (including entrance of the chameleons" is an even better lead off than "21st century schizoid man." as great as that song is, "cirkus" overwhelms me less but sticks in my craw more somehow. and why would someone knock jon anderson's "prince rupert awakens" vocals? i can only chalk that up to not enough love for the cheerful insanity of giles, giles, and fripp

Having a listen to http://www.last.fm/music/King+Crimson/USA just now.

http://www.roadrunnerrecords.com/news/Steven-Wilson-On-Remixing-King-Crimson-20442.aspx

some interesting stuff about the remixing project.

(and some Lizard love)

I'm interested to hear what krakow thinks of Islands, because that's another getting-off-the-bus point for people. it's good though, I didn't appreciate it until I heard the live stuff from the same band.

That's up next. Might try it tonight, depending on how things go.

Primer in The Wire this month.

Yeah, by Joseph Stannard who is one of their metalheads. So I fear he's going to rep for the 90s stuff (Construkction of Light, Thrak, Power to Believe, which I find pretty unbearable.

I also think Crimson is kind of a safe and obvious choice for a Wire Primer, but maybe that's just me.

I suspect stannard would laugh in your face if you called him a metalhead.

He was editor of Terrorizer you know

yes, I know. but he is no longer editor of terrorizer, largely because he tried to broaden the remit beyond metal.

haven't read the article yet, but I know that stannard has seriously broad taste - and, pertinent in this context, he really knows and loves his prog. don't be afeared.

(as it happens, construkction is my own personal favourite),

Maybe I should pick that Wire up then.

I just saw this thread bumped and think I might have to get Red. I've never heard it; I have In The Court, Lark's Tongues, and Starless, but that's it. I remember having Thrak a while ago, but I don't seem to anymore. I don't think I sold it, but if some poor schlub roommate "borrowed" it off of me, I guess a just penance is to have to carry it around.