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its gotta be an illusion lol. the science of it really makes no sense.

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Wednesday, 12 July 2023 04:58 (nine months ago) link

I just watched the video like five more times in the exact way I would watch a video of a magician doing a card trick

Clay, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 05:08 (nine months ago) link

i think she is giving it heaps of off hand thumb. like a chest pass

micah, Wednesday, 12 July 2023 06:42 (nine months ago) link

one month passes...

interesting

Interesting trend from the Korean Basketball League where a number of players are 80%+ from the free throw line shooting exclusively bank shots. pic.twitter.com/OBKmVW3pfa

— Eric Fawcett (@EricFawcett_) August 31, 2023

lag∞n, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:08 (seven months ago) link

looking into this

k3vin k., Monday, 4 September 2023 19:09 (seven months ago) link

i used to do this when i was 8 and it worked, confirmed

lag∞n, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:10 (seven months ago) link

lol yeah that’s how I shot fts when I was a small child

Clay, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:11 (seven months ago) link

i remember on my friends fucked up backboard if you hit the top right corner of the small square it would go in every time

lag∞n, Monday, 4 September 2023 19:18 (seven months ago) link

those carrot uniforms are pretty fire

, Monday, 4 September 2023 23:13 (seven months ago) link

banking free throws is much harder imo! maybe something to try for people that suck at them tho?

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Tuesday, 5 September 2023 02:50 (seven months ago) link

i feel like you can kinda launch it, don't need to worry about arc so much just bang the middle of the square

Tracer Hand, Tuesday, 5 September 2023 09:50 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

Cam Johnson and I breaking down shooting going right and the mechanics required to do it well. Lots more on this discussion in link below! pic.twitter.com/amLTIkun2a

— JJ Redick (@jj_redick) September 28, 2023

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:41 (seven months ago) link

smh jj doesnt want children to know the shooting secrets

lag∞n, Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:45 (seven months ago) link

f* them kids

nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Thursday, 28 September 2023 17:47 (seven months ago) link

three weeks pass...

https://theswishtheory.com/analysis/2023/10/the-mind-of-a-defensive-menace-cognitive-athleticisms-impact-on-defense/

Caruso is so good. Pretty much the only way I make it through Bulls games is just focusing on him playing defense, it's a joy to watch.

Jeff, Thursday, 19 October 2023 14:56 (six months ago) link

i like this in that its drawing attention to lesser known things but im not sure if its clarifying to call them all athleticism, i guess i could "listen to the podcast" to get the full argument

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FY17U6EUUAAjuJQ?format=jpg&name=large

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:12 (six months ago) link

that's a nice-looking ppt

call all destroyer, Thursday, 19 October 2023 15:48 (six months ago) link

you know what thinking basketball do good work i like em

lag∞n, Thursday, 19 October 2023 16:16 (six months ago) link

two weeks pass...

The Milwaukee Bucks are 29th in defense to start the season. Gonna thread some clips from my film session here as we try to find out *why* this is the case.

First, a P&R switch, but looks like Giannis is trying to scram Dame out of the mismatch, but Dame seems to not know that: pic.twitter.com/c3hmgAMOqx

— Jason Timpf (@_JasonLT) November 3, 2023


thread about bucks defensive issues

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:44 (five months ago) link

not sure if this is the best thread for this or just the reg season one

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:44 (five months ago) link

i’m down to try and use this thread for stuff like this to not bog the main thread down w/ nba film twitter threads & the like

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Friday, 3 November 2023 20:47 (five months ago) link

yeah makes sense to me

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Friday, 3 November 2023 21:08 (five months ago) link

Alex Caruso gave Kevin Durant hell last night. Deep dive on how he did it.

Turn sound on to hear why Caruso is a defensive savant. pic.twitter.com/F8hT1IiMr7

— Steph Noh (@StephNoh) November 9, 2023



Caruso is the only good thing in my life this season.

Jeff, Thursday, 9 November 2023 16:46 (five months ago) link

feel like guys are getting better at poking swiping etc at the ball, jrue had a play last night where he was beat and just doinked the ball out at the last moment

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:24 (five months ago) link

i think i read somewhere that steals are way up this season

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:30 (five months ago) link

steals are one of the best plays, as long as youre not gambling

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:31 (five months ago) link

seems like pursuing the play once youre beat has become standard defense where it was once not, leads to more blocks from behind poking balls away and so forth

lag∞n, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 17:38 (five months ago) link

Jose Alvarado please stand up. Also get healthy so you can poke away balls again.

Jeff, Tuesday, 14 November 2023 18:36 (five months ago) link

the 309 point game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvyiAiF6L9c

lag∞n, Sunday, 26 November 2023 14:57 (five months ago) link

man i really cant stand how that guy talks.

micah, Wednesday, 29 November 2023 11:04 (five months ago) link

i was mad they did not overturn this

I can’t believe that I have to explain this…#basketballiscooked pic.twitter.com/f5KF8N4WIw

— #1 ranked snitch ref (@DevInTheLab) November 29, 2023

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2023 15:57 (five months ago) link

steph mightve put a lil extra on that one hard to tell tho he was moving in many directions

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:06 (five months ago) link

funny thing was his kick didnt hit anyone

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2023 16:55 (five months ago) link

he got monk on the thigh, pretty dubious call tho i can see how the refs would be suspicious of the path his leg took sort of an usual hooking motion

https://i.imgur.com/GSgQEAi.png

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 17:00 (five months ago) link

shoudla just been a nocall

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2023 17:53 (five months ago) link

yeah in real time it looks like theres a ton of contact but there wasnt much really

lag∞n, Thursday, 30 November 2023 19:52 (five months ago) link

i dont think devin should be using a clip of reggie of all people to demonstrate a natural shooting motion

or mj or kobe or cp3 for that matter

micah, Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:16 (five months ago) link

haha thats fair

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2023 20:42 (five months ago) link

i think a lot of these guys practice kicking out to the extent it does become part of their usual motion, even if its not necessary to get the shot up... no real downside to it unless the league cracks down

micah, Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:20 (five months ago) link

the right leg kick out is def naturally when turning on that shoulder to shoot

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Thursday, 30 November 2023 21:35 (five months ago) link

sure in that particular shot maybe

micah, Sunday, 3 December 2023 08:49 (four months ago) link

two months pass...

Whyyyy

Kyle Anderson warms up with corner 3’s before Wolves-Clippers.

(via @TomerAzarly) pic.twitter.com/kEx9DjGYxn

— ClutchPoints (@ClutchPoints) February 13, 2024

infinite wiggles (Spottie), Tuesday, 13 February 2024 03:42 (two months ago) link

one month passes...

investigating the luka mysteries

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZfufGaRhHg

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 13:08 (three weeks ago) link

crazy the mavs have two guys who are elite with the ball and do nothing otherwise

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 13:09 (three weeks ago) link

i think thinking basketball lets him off the hook there only trying when you have the ball is actually really bad, is pretty easy to look at individual plays and see things luka couldve done better but theres also the hidden loss of strategic flexibility, mavs arent drawing up plays for luka to get easy catch and shoot threes, and their opponents know that and theyre like thank you for leaving that very good play on the table, it also as mentioned in the video squanders the talents teammates who are good with the ball

luka reads the game in a self centered manner, hes an amazing passer but not in a way that cares about his teammates talents, its anti point guard stuff, its a hardenesque approach where hes just like spread out and be ready to shoot or roll, his teammates are cogs in the luka machine, and then he powers down when he doesnt have the ball lol, cant be the most fulfilling system to play in

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 13:30 (three weeks ago) link

funny aside about plus minus in there lol yeah a stat thats noisy over a single season might not be the best over a longer timeframe because players output might change over the course of five years, but they want it to be good so bad it makes so much sense

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 13:37 (three weeks ago) link

great video, even if ben thanos’d jokic for some reason lol.

raw plus-minus is clearly telling you something important, you can just look at the guys at the top, but you are always going to have outliers that need to be explained (usually due to weird lineup things, for example KCP is like top 10 in raw plus minus this year). the adjusted plus-minuses are getting better and better, they still have some kinks but it’s not like the old days where some rando big was 7th in the league in PER or something.

brony james (k3vin k.), Thursday, 4 April 2024 13:45 (three weeks ago) link

delivering accuracy on the level of asking a casual basketball fan is a great accomplishment for a decade of work by the statistics community

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 13:53 (three weeks ago) link

i think these playoffs will tell us a lot about the current state of luka. he is a perpetual top 5 player so he should be held to a high standard; on the other hand there isn't any lead player drafted in his class or after him that has anywhere near as many playoff wins. the thunder could make the finals this year and SGA still wouldn't have as many playoff wins as luka & that's including games where he was chris paul's sidekick. if the mavs win another playoff series this year, given what is on their roster, i think i'd have a hard time worrying about whether luka's "impact" is overstated

slob wizard (J0rdan S.), Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:17 (three weeks ago) link

he just needs to win one playoff series and the questions about his game are moot

lag∞n, Thursday, 4 April 2024 17:20 (three weeks ago) link


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