stashing assets for the 2023 nba offseason

the harden taking less money thing was funny cos really all he did was sign for basically his actual market value.

one thing with kd is people could really sense the weakness, thats a lot of what kept the narrative going so to speak

like the decision def hurt brons rep permanently but also he just carried on with his life rather than being weird and butthurt so its not a big deal at this point just another line in the bio

sort of cleansed the sins a la jesus christ the way he came back to the cleve (earth) and won a chip (gained eternal life)

teams looking to squeeze miami now

The Thunder and Nets are interested in acquiring Caleb Martin, per @EthanJSkolnick. pic.twitter.com/ERIfc2zgZY

— Ball Don’t Lie (@Balldontlie) July 6, 2023

yeah like i said yesterday i think the parameters of this deal are agreed on, the blazers telling woj that they're canvassing the league is kayfabe & all sides are just trying to squeeze the heat & the heat are taking the position of, he's ending up here so we have the leverage

i dont see what the rush is for portland, hes under contract for 4 years and they are tanking

yea if he hadn't gone back to Cleveland I think people would look at him a lot differently. also the fact that he was compared to MJ constantly gave my generation a constant need to dislike or doubt him, and The Decision gave us a reason

if u think abt when jordan retired the first time he was running from the grind, then when he came back he was ring-chasing

no one really has any rings

one thing with kd is people could really sense the weakness, thats a lot of what kept the narrative going so to speak

― lag∞n, Thursday, July 6, 2023 12:59 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah the burner account didnt help either. the timing was also peak twitter clowning (warriors blown 3-1 lead)

i dont see what the rush is for portland, hes under contract for 4 years and they are tanking

― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Thursday, July 6, 2023 4:08 PM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yeah waiting it out is the obvs best move for them

we're getting into major revisionist history territory here about KD. let's remember some major events that immediately precipitated him joining the warriors

1. the warriors set the record for most wins in NBA history
2. the warriors directly beat KD's team in the playoffs in a series where KD's team was up 3-2
3. the warriors blow a 3-1 lead in the most embarrassing finals loss of a generation
4. the cap spikes for one season allowing leaguewide player movement that everyone understands going in is a one-time only anomaly

the idea that two sides (warriors and KD) that just suffered hugely damaging losses were able to use a fluke offseason to team up and vanquish their demons w/o having to actually overcome them in a genuine way is what irked, and still irks people, about that team. KD is never living it down bcuz of those specific variables. for several reasons it's a situation that will never be repeated. if dame goes to miami it bares only the most surface level resemblance to KD and the warriors ("team that loses the finals acquires a star player").

the thunder were up 3-1 on the dubs fyi

i dont disagree with you at all i just dont think it will be seen as that different by the avg nba consumer if he ends up on the heat

also the warriors won before and after kd so that hurts his legacy even more. plus draymond literally telling him to his face they didnt need him lol.

that was so rude draymond is mean

the kd sitch was special in a lot of ways but that doesnt mean dame isnt gonna get tagged if he forces his way to miami

idk the KD siutation was probably one of the most ridiculous things to happen in the NBA, big difference between a team that set an all-time win record and one that made the Finals through a series of fluke shooting performances and insane clutch time runs. plus there's the fact that the Dubs also exploited a loophole for Curry, the whole thing was so unfair and lame

i think what dame is giving up is his reputation as a great player who didn't win anything but was on a team that typically doesn't win anything and so we were recognizing his greatness without penalizing him for only making it to the conference finals once. which was a nice, low pressure place for him to be. now that he is setting the expectation of winning a title, there will be blowback if he isn't able to do that. he's putting himself out there.

but i think if he actually does win it all it will be all fair in love and war

the biggest problem is he shoulda done this 3-4 seasons ago

the warriors thing was a total blip but the basketball gods got their retribution in 2019

The idea of the dame extension on top of his supermax wasn't just,'hey, let's reward him with a nice gift', but also 'let's be in control of keeping him in the corral until he's cooked'. Didn't turn out to work that way. But it's weird to see dame giving the the team his middle finger via proxy when their major sin was failure to move his buddy CJ to another team right after making the WCF, so they could theoretically sign all those free agents who didn't want to come to the blazers and kept going elsewhere, like always.

idk a star player trying to dictate his next team isn't very weird. pretty standard actually

It has become more commonplace after Harden bolted from Houston. Much less so before that. Free agency was supposed to take care of letting players move about more freely, but the CBA has gone in the direction of "golden handcuffs" for star players, who have, in turn turned to a subdued form blackmail to implement changes of team.

supermax should have come with having to stay in place for at least like 75% of the contract terms

the players never would've agreed to that

correct

you know one way for front offices to convince their players to stay is to be better at their jobs. anyone wanna guess how many all stars dame lillard played with in his career after lamarcus aldridge left portland in 2016

the teams also want the ability to trade their guys, trades trade demands likely one of the parties is gonna be unhappy but they still want to be ability to do it when they want to

the only thing that i thinks in poor form here is dame demanding to be traded to one team he should have a list like a normal guy and let the blazers find a good deal, the timing where he waited until they maxed out grant was bad too tbh tho grant prob liked it lol, the other stuff with as far as staying with the blazers forever and being weird about it is just dumb and annoying but ultimately not an offense

there's conflicting reports about whether dame asked for the trade before or after they did the grant deal. i think the blazers see grant as a fit on the wing next to their young guys & think he's now a tradable asset under their control. but maybe that's all a lie and they only did it to appease dame idk

giving grant a max deal seems insane but also i could see a team thinking it was good so idk

just checked and had no idea he had such a good season. 47/40/82 splits

that is nice

congrats to klutch sports ceo rich paul

Atlanta Hawks All-Star Dejounte Murray and CEO of Klutch Sports Rich Paul are finalizing a four-year, $120 million veteran maximum extension with the franchise, sources tell @TheAthletic @Stadium. Deal includes a player option.

— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) July 6, 2023

interesting!

that feels low for him, he must really want to be in atlanta dang. he took the same exact deal as tyler herro. $87m less than desmond bane!

the wings at Magic City are a major draw iirc

says its his maximum, dejounte probably couldnt get a huge deal based on bird rights bc his original deal was so modest is my guess

prob cause its an extension too mb get more if he played his contract out

yeah imo the main thing with Dane here is the years and years of clowning on his peers for asking for trades to competitors and then doing exactly that in the narrowest of fashions with an nba finals team. I’m pretty sure he recorded songs about it &c. there’s some ass-showing and hypocrisy of high order here.

it’s his max from the hawks but he could’ve gotten whatever offer in the UFA market

Wow, I'm surprised. Thought Murray could possibly have made quite a bit more as UFA next summer, but takes the immediate security of the bag instead. New extension rules (40% raise, extra year) helped grease this. https://t.co/8h5w34ZD8B

— John Hollinger (@johnhollinger) July 6, 2023

yeah id prob just take the $100m+ im kind of conservative like that

he had a major, major injury as a young guy that could have derailed his career, i wonder if that played into him grabbing this extension now

apparently the dillon brooks deal w houston is becoming a fairly complicated multi team trade in which houston is sending out 5 second round picks. one senses the front office there feels like they’re getting fired if they aren’t in the playoff mix this year

THREE second rounders to OKC??? That makes it a total of FIVE second rounders going out in order to facilitate a Brooks S&T that (currently) doesn't even help generate much extra cap room!

This team BETTER make some good use of the extra cap room before the S&T is completed. https://t.co/oOivkD6fhh

— David Weiner (@BimaThug) July 6, 2023

then why are they getting dillon brooks haha

i mean if you have to go from worst team in the league to in the playoffs in one off-season or lose your job you just have to take an 80 million dollar flyer on the most annoying guy in the league who everybody hates also he isn't very good and you definitely send out some picks to do it, this is common wisdom

PICKS TRADE: The Memphis Grizzlies are trading three second-round picks to the Phoenix Suns for two first-round pick swaps (2024 and 2030) and Isaiah Todd, sources tell ESPN. The seconds are 2025 via Pels, and Memphis’ 2028 and 2029 picks.

— Adrian Wojnarowski (@wojespn) July 7, 2023

damn woj did isaiah todd dirty

i still think brooks is a good fit on that houston roster but they’re going thru a lot of trouble to acquire him…