its a shame, if you're portland you should probably ask for herro bc hes the best player miami is willing to part with, but he might be too good if u r just trying to tank. also miami can only trade like their 2027 and 2029 picks so you'd need pick swaps which would probably not matter anyway, its not like the heat will ever be bad. hindsight is 20/20 but the trade market for him wouldve been huge in the summer of gobert.
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:34 (ten months ago) link
on the plus side for blazers fans, at least they dont have to pay him $63M when he's 36
i mean they dont have to trade him to miami
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:35 (ten months ago) link
no they dont and they shouldnt, its a bootycheeks deal for them
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:36 (ten months ago) link
if he’s going to Miami this is a three+ team deal, portland is possibly the worst destination in the nba for herro considering the glut in the backcourt even with dame gone
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:37 (ten months ago) link
The Heat is Lillard’s preference here. But he also has a deep respect for the San Antonio Spurs organization, sources told ESPN. https://t.co/IXhiZwJ24V— Ramona Shelburne (@ramonashelburne) July 1, 2023
lol cannot see the spurs doing this at all even though theyve got hella cap space, picks, and some young players
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:43 (ten months ago) link
i think the celtics will try to trade jaylen + 3 firsts for him
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:45 (ten months ago) link
lol chauncey prob sweating bullets about now
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:46 (ten months ago) link
this is a terrible time for twitter to be on the blink
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:47 (ten months ago) link
I too have exceeded my rate limit
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:48 (ten months ago) link
im able to get on regular twitter, but tweetdeck is not loading 4 me
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:49 (ten months ago) link
know its been said but cannot believe he did this mere hours after they gave grant that huge deal lmao
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:51 (ten months ago) link
blazers might need that grant deal to hit the salary floor now lol
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:52 (ten months ago) link
secret twitter is hopping
― ciderpress, Saturday, 1 July 2023 16:57 (ten months ago) link
blazers should not self-sabotage to make a now former franchise player happy
― ciderpress, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:02 (ten months ago) link
if they take a worse offer to get him to miami i will place the Basketball Curse on them
― ciderpress, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:04 (ten months ago) link
otm
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:04 (ten months ago) link
miami's best offer is probably:2027 1RP2029 1RP4 1RP swaps (24, 26, 28, 30)lowrymartinherrojovic
for dame and nurkic
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:09 (ten months ago) link
that’s not great!
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:10 (ten months ago) link
that’s dogshit honestly
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:11 (ten months ago) link
and will they even have a basketball team after that trade or just 3 guys they can join the 3v3 league
― ciderpress, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:12 (ten months ago) link
like either lowry or herro HAVE to be included and they could add duncan robinson just to make the money work without throwing in nurkic, but thats even worse of a return for portland. i just dont see miami having enough to make it happen unless they can trade herro to someone for at least a couple first rounders and change.
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:16 (ten months ago) link
other teams can just beat miamis package straight up (lol) and they prob will in which case its just up to portland to do dame a solid or not
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:19 (ten months ago) link
my opinion is they should not do him a solid
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:19 (ten months ago) link
why would you do someone a solid who has just requested a trade doesnt make any sense
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:20 (ten months ago) link
basketball reasons
― ciderpress, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:21 (ten months ago) link
I guess there’s the classic “no one will sign with you if you don’t do what your players want” gambit but guess what folks no one is signing with portland anyways nor have they ever
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:22 (ten months ago) link
sounds like dame doesnt totally have his heart set on the heat anyway, hes not from what weve heard saying miami or bust so is prob persuadable to go somewhere else, feel like thats usually the case after a trade demand anyway
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:24 (ten months ago) link
he will prob chill and accept that he is and always has been “a net”
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:25 (ten months ago) link
dame "mr net" lillard
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:27 (ten months ago) link
i think the heat are gonna spin herro to a third team for at least another first & im not sure there will be that many more picks on the table from other teams than that. brooklyn could still beat it but it would prob be close enough for portland to save face. the other contender type teams like clippers, philly etc don’t have much to trade i don’t think portland would want jaylen brown (or any currently good player) & apparently dame’s dad… or his agent im forgetting… flat out said he’s not going to boston
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:30 (ten months ago) link
also i forget the machinations of it all but the heat’s picks are somewhat encumbered by a protected pick they owe OKC and i feel like the oladipo trade to OKC that was announced at midnight last night is a tell that there may be some skid greasing already in progress
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:33 (ten months ago) link
wait who’s giving up a first for herro?
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:34 (ten months ago) link
brooklyn has a lot of first rounders (2 in 2025, 3 in 2027, 1 in 2028, 3 in 2029) mostly from phx. ben simmons is a big contract that can come back, should be able to get nic claxton if you like him. dinwiddie is on a $20M expiring deal.
spurs have like potentially 6 first rounders the next two drafts, plus atl's unprotected in 2027 and an atl swap in 2026, plus all their own first roudners, plus about a dozen and a half 2nd rounders. spurs have cap room so salaries dont need to match exactly, but theyd almost certainly have to send out keldon johnson who is at least good and on a great contract.
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:34 (ten months ago) link
regardless what dealing miami does they just dont have the assets for a competitive offer
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:35 (ten months ago) link
hes gonna demand like 5 or 6 firsts or equivalent in guys
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:37 (ten months ago) link
if portland doesnt want jaylen, which i suspect they do, boston could easily trade him for three or four firsts, if dame is like i absolutely do not want to play in boston should anyone care idk
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:39 (ten months ago) link
waiting til after the draft and the first day of free agency to demand a trade is lame -- i'm guessing the blazers might have done things a little differently if he'd done this even two days ago
― mookieproof, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:39 (ten months ago) link
celtics might care portland shouldnt, maybe if celtics and nets put up similar offers they take the nets to be nice xp self
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:40 (ten months ago) link
if dame is like i absolutely do not want to play in boston should anyone care idk
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:41 (ten months ago) link
sometimes maybe idk theres no law
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:42 (ten months ago) link
i suspect were not seeing him go to the heat tho, its not impossible but it would be very dumb on the blazers part
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:43 (ten months ago) link
I’ve got news for you the blazers are not smart
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:45 (ten months ago) link
thats the thing that keeping me thinking its still a possibility
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:47 (ten months ago) link
i do think dames list of preferred teams increasing is the most likely outcome tho
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:49 (ten months ago) link
yeah you can’t say trade me to this one place it’s not really tenable you gotta create a market look I went to college
― Clay, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:50 (ten months ago) link
thats just economy 101
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:51 (ten months ago) link
for the record i dont really want the celtics to get him also i didnt want zinger, but if theyre really good i would be persuadable, but not if theyre not good
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:53 (ten months ago) link
part of the leverage teams typically have is just being like “we’re not trading you” i.e. what happened w/ KD last summer but i don’t think that is in play here, it doesn’t even make sense for portland they need to turn the page & hand the team over to their young guys. so they can try & create a market by pitting teams against each other but as we saw w/ KD last summer when ppl were like “he could go to memphis! he could go to new orleans!” … that’s just not how these things go. it’s gonna be miami, brooklyn, clippers, philly maybe… we know the suspects here. i think portland will end up getting a nice deal but they’re going to be operating in a fake & not very advantageous market
― J0rdan S., Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:57 (ten months ago) link
i mean the nets got an insane package for kd
― lag∞n, Saturday, 1 July 2023 17:57 (ten months ago) link