its true
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:21 (ten months ago) link
ok PG was not as old as i thought
― ciderpress, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:21 (ten months ago) link
the same ppl have also been arguing over & over that morey won the harden trade, he held out for his star and got it, the sixers had the most deadly PPP pick & roll duo in the regular season yada yada. sixers went 13-10 in the playoffs w/ harden, never advanced past the second round, were able to dump ben simmons contract but gave up 2 first round picks in the process & are now hamstrung asset wise, also gave up seth curry and then shot 16-71 from three in the final 2 games of the boston series... i'm not gonna bang the gavel on this trade being a disaster until we see how this harden stuff resolves but as of now it's looking quite disaster-ish
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 17:26 (ten months ago) link
also trading for a guy whos on his second trade request in a year might give you pause
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:27 (ten months ago) link
and as a staunch "morey should dump simmons for the halliburton appetizer combo" poster and a staunch "if you give up two first round picks for james harden in your quest to win a title you didn't actually win a trade" poster i'm not revising history here
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 17:28 (ten months ago) link
morey knew first hand about all the crazy shit harden did in houston and did not care, he was his biggest enabler lol, another strike against the boy genius
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:28 (ten months ago) link
morey is prob by any measure one of the best GMs of his generation except for the part where the success of all his teams was put in the hands of one of the worst playoff performers of all time, it's very tragic in a greek way
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 17:33 (ten months ago) link
he made some nice moves for sure but imo he lacked the good fundamentals and also doesnt seem to understand the human skills part, its weird that he was never a wall street guy cause its all extremely wall streety
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:36 (ten months ago) link
wonder when the wreckage of the sixers will get bad enough for him to quit
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:39 (ten months ago) link
he completely skated on the mess houston became bcuz harden & to an extent fertita are such obvious lightning rods for criticism
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 17:40 (ten months ago) link
the westbrook trade was such a perfect fuck it im out of here anyway move
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:41 (ten months ago) link
absolutely not
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fz414KrWAA04JI_?format=jpg&name=large
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 17:42 (ten months ago) link
pat is beyond cooked
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 17:54 (ten months ago) link
hes so lame i hate him
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:07 (ten months ago) link
yeah he sucks, not a fan
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:09 (ten months ago) link
i like it - celtics need more podcasting depth off the bench
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 18:11 (ten months ago) link
its true that the celtics dont have any casters
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:12 (ten months ago) link
Jaylen brown should start one with his bff Kyrie
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 18:16 (ten months ago) link
o god
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:17 (ten months ago) link
What could go wrong
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 18:18 (ten months ago) link
jaylen has managed to stay just on the other side of the saying dumb shit on podcasts line and for that he has my thanks lol
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:19 (ten months ago) link
there's some sorta like half life sequence that goes marcus smart -> dillon brooks -> pat beverly so i guess this makes sense
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 18:21 (ten months ago) link
and of course the possibility that this becomes ben simmons 2.0 is the absolute funniest outcome of the harden acquisition
― J0rdan S., Friday, June 30, 2023 1:49 AM (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
hey give Harden some credit he at least always seems to want to be out there. maybe he'll have those Simmons-ish games where he scores 7 points and fouls out but it'll be on 40 shot attempts not 4
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:28 (ten months ago) link
he at least always seems to want to be out there
i think we might have different interpretations of james harden's emotional state in games 6 and 7 of the celtics series
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 18:35 (ten months ago) link
cool, haven't thought of him in yearshttps://www.nba.com/timberwolves/news/minnesota-timberwolves-name-corliss-williamson-assistant-coach
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Friday, 30 June 2023 18:39 (ten months ago) link
well another thing with Harden is I think he's hurt a lot and his body is probably in rough shape given the way he's foul baited for the last 10 years. he doesn't seem to care a whole lot about winning titles but I think he at least likes to play basketball
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:42 (ten months ago) link
yeah he doesn't sit out much but he can shut it down on court with the best of them, like how many 2/11 elimination games do we need to see to know this?
― call all destroyer, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:56 (ten months ago) link
he's a very strange dude
he had an amazing run of basically playing every game in houston, bodys breaking down now tho
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 18:57 (ten months ago) link
b/w morey fumbling haliburton, clippers trading sga to get paul george, and the suns trading mikal bridges, i dont know how long it will take for teams to realize that maybe they can build a contender with young stars if they're patient. owners just want the instant gratification of a new toy.
― slai gorgeous-alexander (m bison), Friday, June 30, 2023 1:07 PM (one hour ago)
I mean it’s easier said than done, right? for every team that’s regretted trading away a guy who turns out to be a star, there’s an orlando or indiana, who are doing it the “right way” but are waiting, maybe indefinitely, for one or more of their young guys to actually turn into the sort of franchise cornerstone that is a difference-maker in may or june. take denver for example, a mostly homegrown team who wouldn’t be anywhere near where they are if their mid-2nd round pick didn’t randomly turn into one of the GOATS. it’s a surer thing to trade for the established guy
― k3vin k., Friday, 30 June 2023 19:04 (ten months ago) link
even tho the PG trade was fully nuts from the jump to me it is somewhat defensible bcuz it didn't decimate their present team, they just bet on two guys who can never stay healthy. which was dumb and this outcome was always predictable but you could at least make the case that you were maximizing a 3-5 year window in exchange for the obvious crippling future downside risk
the KD to suns trade was and is completely indefensible bcuz not only did they take on all the future downside risk they also dropped a nuclear bomb on their present roster. will prob go down as one of the worst trades in NBA history when it's all said and done
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 19:10 (ten months ago) link
― lag∞n, Friday, June 30, 2023 2:57 PM (thirteen minutes ago)
see i think he's actually aging fairly well, he's clearly lost some athleticism and has a bit of a roly poly body but we're talking about a 33 year old. and he's pretty appropriately shifted his game to adjust for that, playing more of a true PG role, he shot more mid rangers this year. by the standards of the playoff grind he seemed pretty fully healthy to me in the celtics series, it didn't ever seem like had bad conditioning or anything. it's just the whole brain shutting down like an overheated computer thing that is the problem
― J0rdan S., Friday, 30 June 2023 19:11 (ten months ago) link
just meant he misses games now when he didnt used to
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 19:14 (ten months ago) link
when I worked Burger King there were two kinds of co-workers, those who would call in "sick" (hungover) on Saturday morning, and those who come in but half-ass everything. ultimately I appreciated those in the latter category, it's the not showing up at all that bothered me
― frogbs, Friday, 30 June 2023 19:20 (ten months ago) link
it was so satisfying when the dubs beat the harden rockets teams in the wcf 2015 & 2018
― that's not my post, Friday, 30 June 2023 19:25 (ten months ago) link
lmao frogs
― k3vin k., Friday, 30 June 2023 19:42 (ten months ago) link
~20 more minutes! anyone get a line on good free agency live coverage?
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:37 (ten months ago) link
shams has a show idk if its good tho
TUNE IN: NBA Free Agency Live Show on @Stadium tonight starting at 5:30 pm ET, with myself, Wizards guard Monte Morris, ex-NBA wing Robbie Hummel, 10-year veteran/former Pistons executive Pat Garrity, and host Cam Smith: https://t.co/6kD3yUKmT6— Shams Charania (@ShamsCharania) June 30, 2023
― lag∞n, Friday, 30 June 2023 21:41 (ten months ago) link
All signs have pointed to a new Draymond Green deal in Golden State since my enclosed story Monday and league sources now project Green to land a contract in the four-year, $100 million range from the Warriors once free agency commences.My Monday report: https://t.co/SwBEFrPlrY— Marc Stein (@TheSteinLine) June 30, 2023
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:46 (ten months ago) link
good deal imo. interested to see if the 4th year is a team or player option
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:47 (ten months ago) link
Yeah, definitely a great deal considering some of the numbers that have been flying around.Also seeing a lot of chatter around Saric to GSW, which would be a great pickup on a vet min
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 30 June 2023 21:50 (ten months ago) link
The NBA sets the 2023-24 salary cap at $136.021 million.- Luxury tax line: $165.294 M- Minimum team salary: $122.418 M- First apron: $172.346 M- Second apron: $182.894 M- Non-Taxpayer Mid-Level: $12.405 M- Taxpayer Mid-Level: $5 M- Room Mid-Level: $7.723 M— Ben Golliver (@BenGolliver) June 30, 2023
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 22:02 (ten months ago) link
Warriors have already checked their most important free agent box. Draymond Green is back, per @ShamsCharania. Warriors get: Lowered annual salary. Green gets: Player option in Year 4. https://t.co/aJCcUic4SB— Anthony Slater (@anthonyVslater) June 30, 2023
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 22:03 (ten months ago) link
taurean prince to the lakers
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 22:07 (ten months ago) link
4/102 kuz stays on wiz
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 22:08 (ten months ago) link
3/40 coby white bullsDeandre Jordan staying with denver how does he still have a job
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 22:10 (ten months ago) link
hey, he did have the best 3pt% in the league last season
― Chyiv Kyiv (Fetchboy), Friday, 30 June 2023 22:16 (ten months ago) link
caris 2/32 to stay cavs
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 22:18 (ten months ago) link
rip nuggets
brucie b 2/45 to pacers
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 22:20 (ten months ago) link
jerami grant 5/160 blazerszinger 2/60 extension
― nobody respects the chair (Spottie), Friday, 30 June 2023 22:25 (ten months ago) link